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"Potentially access"? Would that mean something like optional equipment or prep time then? Or something he actually has the capacity to use on his own but chooses not to?
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Quoting Bambu: "Yes and no. Technically the character extends to 4e, which means he has access to all 4e spells. Some 4e spells are 1-A in potency."Blahblah9755 said:"Potentially access"? Would that mean something like optional equipment or prep time then? Or something he actually has the capacity to use on his own but chooses not to?
He has 7-B dura and 7-B attacks, so he kinda qualifies for 7-BExSENNA said:Isn't Ainz 8-C and High 8-C normally? He should be on 8-C and High 8-C, not 7-B?
Also walk me through this^. I've been trying but it still makes no sense.ExSENNA said:Being a stone wall with a lot of hax and resistances is his ability.
Placing characters on tiers they get with their abilities is absurd
Nah. Jojo characters are listed as 10-A for the same reason. Physically they are 10-A with 8-C stands.AnonymousBlank said:So what you are saying is, strip people of their standard form of combat and judge them based on this? How can one think this is logically sound when the goal of this thread is to list the 5 strongest for every tier? If someone qualifies for a tier with more than one attack that they can use more than once, they should be allowed to challenge for a position.
That's a good point, but Ainz can become full-blown 7-B with some equipment, so I guess I'll specify he's fully equiped on 7-B. You can make some matches to get him on 8-C and High 8-C if you want.ExSENNA said:Isn't Ainz 8-C and High 8-C normally? He should be on 8-C and High 8-C, not 7-B?
Because this list is Top 5 strongest non-smurfs for every tier so they would be placed according to their base tier, everything else they have, their magic/spells hax that boosts their power is just ability. a 10-A character that can become High 3-A with a spell isn't High 3-A normally, he needs to activate itLSirLancelotDuLacl said:Why should the characters be restricted to their own stats if they have ways to fight on that tier?
This is not even a rule in normal battles, so I am stll confused where did it come from and for what reasons it exists in this thread. What relevance does it have when the whole point is the strongest for each tier without smurf stuff?
All I am seeing is people saying "this character is in the list for this tier for the same reason".
Okay, what is the reason?
Subjective. The point is they aren't on that tier normally and only have their abilities on that tier, it's irrelevant if they fight on that tier by using their abilities that grants them higher tier power they will still be placed with their base tiers without using any abilityLSirLancelotDuLacl said:That's absurdly nonsensical. The source of the stats doesn't matter, just the fact that they can be in that tier.
What does needing to activate it have to do at all with the fact they are in that tier, and can fight in it? Is painfully irrelevant.
Woah woah woah. Hold up a second. Are you telling me that this isn't Tier 8 Ainz clapping Tier 8s but Tier 8 Ainz that can use Tier 7 magic clapping Tier 8s? No offence but what in the actual **** kind of reasoning is that? No shit people with higher tier stuff is going to stomp a lot of lower tiers. Someone turn off the filter for 30 seconds so I can go to town on this "logic". Why are we even bothering with tiers if you are letting them use out of tier stuff?ExSENNA said:You don't need to restrict any ability that buffs them into higher tier for this list nor for the other, those buffs are ability and the character would be placed with heir base tier without using abilities
Dude, UncoolAnonymousBlank said:Did your parents turn you upside down and pile drive your skull into the floor when you were a child?!?!?