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Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier 5: The Last of the Forum

Anything above your own dimensional level is smurf, even range and resistances.

Since the forcefield is tier 4, is above their dura but not 4-D or above in power, so it is usable. Was one of the reasons I mentioned them to be added.
 
Okay so Nobles should be removed

@Ion Yhwach has Interdimensional range. Although he doesn't have that in his second key so he should have (Second Key) next to his profile and not his Soul King absorbed key
 
Yes, because it is affecting beyond the conventional space-time of a single universe, which is smurf.
 
I mean, having Interdimensional range doesn't necessarily make you a Smurf since it doesn't necessarily transverse the universe. It just you can reach things from another dimension. And pretty sure being in another dimension isn't equivalent to being in another universe entirely unless said or proven otherwise. That requires Low Multiversal Range at worst.
 
Range very clearly says Interdimensional is "Attacks and abilities that can reach beyond the conventional space-time of a single universe", which is totally 4-D.
 
Interdimensional range is also ranked higher than Universal+ range, and Universal+ range is the 4D of single space-time continuum. Any characters of these ranges that are a tier below 4D are smurf by default.
 
Ionliosite said:
Range very clearly says Interdimensional is "Attacks and abilities that can reach beyond the conventional space-time of a single universe", which is totally 4-D.
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You miss this last part of the description: but that may not necessarily travel a universal distance.
 
Having 4D range while not being able to travel at 4D distances doesn't change the fact that a character can reach across 4D of space-time continuum(s) while being 3D in the end. Anything beyond a character's own dimensional tiering qualifies as smurf by default. Time abilities such as Time Stop and the ilk are the only exceptions to this, since they tend to not count as completely 4D.
 
Another universe ISN'T the lowest requirement to have 4-D stuff, otherwise, Universal+ wouldn't be 4-D.
 
Interdimensional range is still above Universal+ range, which is explicitly the 4D of a single universe's space-time continuum. Anything that's Universal+ or above in range qualifies as 4D by this site's standards. This is how this site's Range page treats it.
 
Ionliosite said:
Another universe ISN'T the lowest requirement to have 4-D stuff, otherwise, Universal+ wouldn't be 4-D.
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Okay sure it isn't the lowest, but doesn't change my point regarding being in another dimension =/= being in another universe.

@DN Why would you think Interdimensional above Universe+? You can have different dimensions and still in the same space-time/universe at the same time.
 
Because the Range page puts it that way.

That's because there are some verses that have an alternate/different dimension the size of a Universe. That is why Interdimensional range listed after Universal+. Verse like Puella Magi doesn't have universal sized pocket universe, but it still another dimension nonetheless. Their Interdimensional range isn't a Smurf.
 
Because the Range page puts it that way.

That's because there are some verses that have an alternate/different dimension the size of a Universe.

Yeah, but if the other dimension they can reach is the size of a universe, it isn't Interdimensional anymore, but Low Multiversal.
 
I would say this is something better made for a CRT if the page doesn't make any clear distinction.

Also, unless I am wrong, didn't that Range CRT tackle this situation? What did it say?
 
They are already on Number 1, but I think you mean to change it to "Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken" in general, right?
 
Ionliosite said:
They are already on Number 1, but I think you mean to change it to "Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken" in general, right?
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Oh, my bad, I didn't know they were updated yet. Changing them to Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken would be a good option because there are more characters that are good contenders in the verse like Shion (Web Novel) and Zegion (Web Novel) for 6-A.
 
Joule (Azure Striker Gunvolt) for 5th 9-C. While she dosn't know how to use her powers for the most part, the powers she does know how to use are really good. Tier 7 barriers with attack reflection, causality manipulation that she uses IC to bring herself back from death and Clairvoyance. She might even be able to take the #4 spot if it wasn't for the #4 spot's Type 5 immortality (Though that might not matter all that much since Type 5 is sometimes just glorified Type 2)

Also, due to AP revisions, some changes need to be made with the Gunvolt characters.

LAiX Copen is no longer 7-A, but Reverie Zonda is 7-A, so she should probably take Copen's place.

Gunvolt should tie with Ninja in High 7-C since they both have the same gimmick, but should be removed from 8-B since he's no longer in that tier.

Since #5 in Low 7-B is an Instant Death character, I'm just going to assume that Azure Striker Gunvolt can't break into that part of the list.
 
2-C Vecna has 2-A range according to his profile so nuke him

I highly doubt he is a non-smurf he has that spot on the other thread and shares his spot with Magnus who has Tier 1 stuff
 
"2-C Vecna has 2-A range according to his profile so nuke him"

2-C vs 2-A is a matter of range/AP, not higher-dimensions. If they have Tier 1 attributes then it is a smurf, but just having certain parts of his profile being 2-A and everything else as 2-C is not considered a smurf. Otherwise I never would've suggested the Wizard101 CAC.
 
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