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This is top strongest characters, not top characters who are hard to be defeatedWhere is this rule at? since it isn't stated in either this thread nor in the previous thread's rules.
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This is top strongest characters, not top characters who are hard to be defeatedWhere is this rule at? since it isn't stated in either this thread nor in the previous thread's rules.
I think it was a rule discussed and decided in previous threadAnichase is getting massively downgraded and is losing the Type 1 Conceptual shit and most of his other broken hax's as well. I'll have to read that thread then and see if i agree with the outcome but if he actually did beat him then Oma gets the placement.
Where is this rule at? since it isn't stated in either this thread nor in the previous thread's rules.
I mean Oma resist every single one of Outsider abilities. His precog already work on Another Ryuga who literally have no history, all of his resistances have at least two layers, his time/fate/plot manip work on characters who have type 2/4 acausality, high godly, type 3 acausality, passive powernull that bypass at least a layer of resistance.I'll have to read that thread then and see if i agree with the outcome but if he actually did beat him then Oma gets the placement.
It was discussed and agreed upon in the old thread. And it should be obvious, this is Top 5 strongest, not Top 5 stonewalls.Where is this rule at? since it isn't stated in either this thread nor in the previous thread's rules.
Bruh you can't be serious. guess what in the "Top 5 Strongest Characters" if you can't bypass someone's Aca or Regen but on the same token your opponent can't bypass your Aca/Regen ect.. They share the same tier. why would this thread by any different?This is top strongest characters, not top characters who are hard to be defeated
You think? can you grab the statement, because if you can't then i believe my point still stands.I think it was a rule discussed and decided in previous thread
Like i said i'll check the thread and see what my conclusions are but for right know though Oma can have the tier.I mean Oma resist every single one of Outsider abilities. His precog already work on Another Ryuga who literally have no history, all of his resistances have at least two layers, his time/fate/plot manip work on characters who have type 2/4 acausality, high godly, type 3 acausality, passive powernull that bypass at least a layer of resistance.
That thread was old, way old. Oma was missing tons of his abilities at the time and he's about to also get more abilities as well due to the nature of Oma.Like i said i'll check the thread and see what my conclusions are but for right know though Oma can have the tier.
Because 9/10 those characters also **** the ones under themBruh you can't be serious. guess what in the "Top 5 Strongest Characters" if you can't bypass someone's Aca or Regen but on the same token your opponent can't bypass your Aca/Regen ect.. They share the same tier. why would this thread by any different?
You think? can you grab the statement, because if you can't then i believe my point still stands.
Like i said i'll check the thread and see what my conclusions are but for right know though Oma can have the tier.
Not the same as getting a spot just by being hard to touch and otherwise being stompable by everyone else just by lacking that one power. A tie when one is outclassed in all other categories is disingenuous.Bruh you can't be serious. guess what in the "Top 5 Strongest Characters" if you can't bypass someone's Aca or Regen but on the same token your opponent can't bypass your Aca/Regen ect.. They share the same tier. why would this thread by any different?
What do you mean by this?And before you bring up 682 on the smurf thread, his other thing is using the opponent's shit against them via adaptation.
If that is a un-stated rule, then it's a rule that i heavily disagree with since your basically telling me is "Well this character posses a ability that allows them to resist the hax's and physical attacks of this opponent but since they don't have a way to bypass this opponent's Regen/Acaus ect.. they get placed under them?"Because 9/10 those characters also **** the ones under them
I participated in that discussion, and it was agreed that just being hard to effect/kill wasn't enough for a spot if you don't beat nobody
Then why does M in 3rd spot then, does he have any wincons against 2a anos or the current 4th spot? I thought he was there simply because he incon with Lavos( * via acausal 5?)Not the same as getting a spot just by being hard to touch and otherwise being stompable by everyone else just by lacking that one power. A tie when one is outclassed in all other categories is disingenuous.
That rule was agreed, hence why old Arceus didn't have a spot in 2-A even when it can incon virtually all other 2-A characters due to massive size above baseline 2-AIf that is a un-stated rule, then it's a rule that i heavily disagree with since your basically telling me is "Well this character posses a ability that allows them to resist the hax's and physical attacks of this opponent but since they don't have a way to bypass this opponent's Regen/Acaus ect.. they get placed under them?"
That doesn't make any logical sense to me.
It does because at that point, you're not stronger or even as strong as anyone else there. Just hard to touch or put down for good.If that is a un-stated rule, then it's a rule that i heavily disagree with since your basically telling me is "Well this character posses a ability that allows them to resist the hax's and physical attacks of this opponent but since they don't have a way to bypass this opponent's Regen/Acaus ect.. they get placed under them?"
That doesn't make any logical sense to me.
682 is infamous for inconning due to being that ****** hard to kill.What do you mean by this?
If that is a un-stated rule, then it's a rule that i heavily disagree with since your basically telling me is "Well this character posses a ability that allows them to resist the hax's and physical attacks of this opponent but since they don't have a way to bypass this opponent's Regen/Acaus ect.. they get placed under them?"
That doesn't make any logical sense to me.
He probably does have some winconsThen why does M in 3rd spot then, does he have any wincons against 2a anos or the current 4th spot? I thought he was there simply because he incon with Lavos( * via acausal 5?)
Dunno. If he indeed can't beat no.4 and 5 then he can be removed.Then why does M in 3rd spot then, does he have any wincons against 2a anos or the current 4th spot? I thought he was there simply because he incon with Lavos( * via acausal 5?)
Then IMO it should share the spot with the highest-placed character that can't kill it since they both just Incon each-other.That rule was agreed, hence why old Arceus didn't have a spot in 2-A even when it can incon virtually all other 2-A characters due to massive size above baseline 2-A
If we're really going to be technical with the "Strongest" wording then any of these hax-based monsters that have lower AP/DC/Lifting Strength then those they're ranked above should be ranked lower since this thread is talking about the "Strongest" Non-Smurfs, not the most "Haxxed" Non-Smurfs.It does because at that point, you're not stronger or even as strong as anyone else there. Just hard to touch or put down for good.
Really, getting passively nuked and regenerating in a loop isn't strength.
682 is a Smurf so i don't see why it was used as an analogy. but i understand what you mean now.682 is infamous for inconning due to being that ****** hard to kill.
The first question you apsolutely have to ask with characters who should just get stomped but can't due to their defenses, if their offense ain't up to snuff against the other character then it makes no sense. They need to be able to WIN to be placed above the competition.
just passive deconstructionoh yeah What does Oltura do
I think Captain easily beats him with myriad of Summon hax
Ainz Ooal Gown for 4th 9-A, functionally Low 7-C, a bunch of haxes including his go-tos of Time Stop and Death Manip, he stomped a bloodlusted final key Snatcher and should be more then capable of just murdering Haruna in a variety of ways.
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captain resist deconstruction.just passive deconstruction
wasn`t granblue agreed to share a spot with bleach in 5A or was the match never done
Bleach right know is about to be under a massive revision regarding one if it's main core-abilities (Reiatsu Crush) and let's just say if all the additions go through they most likely become 1 in most of the tiers they occupy (Specifically 5-B, 5-A, 3-A and even possibly a placement at Low 2-C).the match was never done iirc. but I don't mind him staying at 4th place for now. since his profile needs to be updated first. but whats currently listed in the profile still applies
You'll SeeI find that claim hilarious but alright. Guess we'll see whatwanknew powers will be pulled out for RC.
Like, what? Passive concept destruction or something ridiculous along those lines? Cause considering No. 1 in 5-A alone Type 4 Acas away Almighty, law-hax based invul and resistances for days, it's gonna take a lot for that, let alone Tier 2.You'll See
Of course i won't give every single new thing i'm cooking up right now to the public until i create the thread/blog.Like, what? Passive concept destruction or something ridiculous along those lines? Cause considering No. 1 in 5-A alone Type 4 Acas away Almighty, law-hax based invul and resistances for days, it's gonna take a lot for that, let alone Tier 2.