Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Part 7

[Setsuna_tenma]

IIRC, Dragon Ball also has statements of history being infinite and infinity expanding. So the multiverse is indefinitely expanding.

Then you have Dragon Ball level scaling on top of that with transformation with ridiculous multipliers.

You dont bust more universes via multipliers

 

[Warren_Valion]

You dont bust more universes via multipliers

DB mulitpliers make the characters like hundreds to thousands of times stronger than in base.

If the Archiver and DBH cosmology were equal, which is debatable, the scaling chain in DBH would give them the edge in the AP department.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

The archiver is also endless btw.

"All possibilities to ever exist" and "infinitely-expanding" are two different things.

All possibilities to ever exist would be 2-A (the end of endless basically which would be infinite). Since the archiver seems to have possibilities of the futures as well.

Endlessly growing is why it's 2-B. We got no idea what exactly it is until we get the raw scans. Since endless can be synonymous to infinite. She says "the world is bulit upon an endless series of chances", but if it's already "built" then. It's a bit weird on whether it is 2-B or 2-A.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Btw we need a new list. Someone make it.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

All possibilities to ever exits is 2-B tho.

Also, DB will get a solid 2-A before GB does.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

All possibilities to ever exits is 2-B tho.
Also, DB will get a solid 2-A before GB does.

If it already embodies all endless possibilities then it's 2-A. I believe. Since if the possibilities never end, yet something already embodies (doesn't grow) then it's already embodying a never ending number, or infinity. So if the archiver grows in potency it's 2-B, if it doesn't it's 2-A.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Also someone gonna make a new thread?

Imma comment on where GB fits when we make it. This is already 490 posts.

 

[Genericstickman]

I mean despite how unlikely it is it's probably likely going to happen

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I wanted to make a joke about wanking and all but I got nothing :v

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Ugh. You don't got meme skills.

 

[YungManzi]

So I had heard that Joji Joestar stomps Yogiri via his High 2-A beyond manipulating plot in his favor.

But then I also read that his Beyond doesn't attack at all, or reflect, or harm his enemies...it's only a plot related defense.

So where would he go in 10-A?

 

[The_Smashor]

Probably still behind Giorno.

EDIT: Nevermind. I didn't notice who was where Yogiri was. If Joji stomps number 1 then Giorno should be grouped with the rest of JJBA under Yogiri

 

[Warren_Valion]

All possibilities to ever exist would be 2-A (the end of endless basically which would be infinite). Since the archiver seems to have possibilities of the futures as well.

This is wrong.

All possibilities is an astronomically large number, but it is still a finite number. It's still 2-B.

By "It embodies all endless possibilities" it means that it embodies all possibilities, which is a number so large that it seems endless. Not that the number is, in fact, endless.

It just flowery talk - like when someone says "The endless ocean or boundless sky", it's not that the ocean or sky are infinite in size, it's just that they are so large that they seem infinite.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Flowery language hits differently when said by a scientist who was explaining quantum physics and the way the world is built just a minute ago. And endless can share the same word as infinite in Japanese so until we find the raw scans it will remain questionable on whether the tier is 2b or 2a.

 

[DistinctiveFeature]

@Fire

Reading this you aren't making much sense.

All possibilities is just 2-B it has to be infinite to be 2-A. If there are countless universes (2-B) and each possibility in each universe spawns a new set of countless universes than this is just incomprehensibly into 2-B. Not 2-A because the initial "countless" must be infinite to be 2-A.

Endless can change depending on context and intent.

 

[DistinctiveFeature]

If that's the intent it would most likely be 2-A then.

 

[YungManzi]

Probably still behind Giorno.
EDIT: Nevermind. I didn't notice who was where Yogiri was. If Joji stomps number 1 then Giorno should be grouped with the rest of JJBA under Yogiri

Honestly, I doubt he stomps him. The vs thread in question kinda ended the second High 2-A plot manipulation was mentioned.

 

[DistinctiveFeature]

How does Cthulhu from CSTW beat Ahriman?