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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 36

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i mean we should wait on the mortebiancia revisions to finish first as i think the quantum man's 7-A key is going to become a High 1-C/ 1-A smurf
 
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And from my knowledge with Touma, you need proof for each hax
Not each, just show capabilities of even ground.

Example nulling causality means you can null fate. You don't need proof for both it's just stupid.

What you do need proof for though is Type 2 concept if all you've shown it type 3 concept that is true.
 
Type 2 concepts nah.

Plot i've gone over this before but plot is just reality warping. It's essentially just manipulating reality by looking at it as a book instead of as a world.
 
That's not how the Wiki treats it, if he doesn't null it he doesn't null it regardless if he nullified Reality Warping or not.
 
That's not how the Wiki treats it, if he doesn't null it he doesn't null it regardless if he nullified Reality Warping or not.
Plot manip is a way to achieve powers, not a power itself. Anything plot can do can be given another name. If it changes a characters knowledge it's mind manip, if it changes history it's causality manip, if it rewrites the future it's fate manip.

The wiki also treats Reality Warping as a "separate power" doesn't mean that it's not just an umbrella term for pretty much any power ever. It can be resisted just the same by resisting it's applications, it's just the means to it that differ, which is the reason Plot Manip is separate. You can resist it by resisting the applications just fine.
 
That's not how the Wiki treats it, if he doesn't null it he doesn't null it regardless if he nullified Reality Warping or not.
If iihiko can nullify/resist every application of plot manip(include RW),he can resist plot manip,people already talked about it above
 
If iihiko can nullify/resist every application of plot manip(include RW),he can resist plot manip,people already talked about it above
Yeah if reality and plot in the verse is considered the same then resist one let you resist the other
 
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Isn't he capable of fighting from up there? I've heard he is.


The match already happened a while ago and Iihiko lost from AP. You can go check it.
I know the match happened with Lord Revelation (I was there), but back then his powernull was considered 4-D, which isn't what you said in this thread (you said it's 3-D I think) so I assume since then it got downgraded to 3-D, which changes things a lot.
 
Why? His phasing, skill, heat vision, frost breath, along with torquasm vo and stuff is too op
None of that is even getting him on the non-smurf thread much less here. The weakest dude on 4-B here has High 1-C stuff.

And it's really not that OP, unless you really haven't been around the block as far as profiles go.
 
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