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"At least 10-A, likely 9-C".
It can be done. >
It can be done. >
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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 27
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Vahanato has ways to get around being basically "banned" from manifesting herself in certain universes (or pocket dimensions in this case) as she can alter the reality and introduce a new seemingly natural system into the universe that allows her to bypass the defenses against her manifestation, that is basically what she did during the series. Unless the spatial manipulation can defend against reality being warped then I do not see all that much problem. Not to mention she has low multiversal range with her RW and Fate Manipulation, albeit the more relevant one here is RW due to EE so she does not even need to manifest herself there.DontTalkDT said:
Tire herself out? She will just go back to the starting point of the whole fight every time she wants as if nothing had happened while keeping her knowledge, she won't tire herself out.
"Her true form is made of masses of colored glass that were heptahedrons and 'hendecahedrons' in shape. Vandalieu thought that the shape should be impossible by the world's laws of physics"
How does this possibly defend someone from EE? It seems like creating a limitation where there is none.
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W. D. Gaster for fourth strongest unknown.
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How does he beat....any contenders from Unknown? Like im pretty sure there are a lot of other unknown 1-A's. And even then there are people like The Witch Quee in unknown.Strawboi said:
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Every thread I've ever been on involving the two has equalized mind control with perception manipulation.
Otherwise, a lot of people wouldn't be able to resist Genjutsu (Via having resistance to mind control , and mind control and perception manipulation apparently not being equal) and vise-versa.
Same with mist flames in KHR.
Unequalizing subsets of MM closes a lot of doors that were previously open.
Now, I agree that neurosurgery and social influencing shouldn't be equalize to magical mind control. But I just don't see the purpose or reasoning of further unequalization of things that are basically the same with a few simple differences/applications.
Every thread I've ever been on involving the two has equalized mind control with perception manipulation.
Otherwise, a lot of people wouldn't be able to resist Genjutsu (Via having resistance to mind control , and mind control and perception manipulation apparently not being equal) and vise-versa.
Same with mist flames in KHR.
Unequalizing subsets of MM closes a lot of doors that were previously open.
Now, I agree that neurosurgery and social influencing shouldn't be equalize to magical mind control. But I just don't see the purpose or reasoning of further unequalization of things that are basically the same with a few simple differences/applications.
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Then those threads are wrong if they made it a two way street. If you resist mind manip, you can resist perception manip depending how it works, is just another way of controlling your mind after all. If you resist perception manip though, you sure as hell aren't resisting mind manip without feats. Is like resisting getting your blood boiled by Heat manip because you have resistance to Cold manip, which is a subset of Heat quite obviously.
Resisting a singular way in which your brain can be controlled and outright brain control in general, not just your senses, isn't the same at all.
Then those threads are wrong if they made it a two way street. If you resist mind manip, you can resist perception manip depending how it works, is just another way of controlling your mind after all. If you resist perception manip though, you sure as hell aren't resisting mind manip without feats. Is like resisting getting your blood boiled by Heat manip because you have resistance to Cold manip, which is a subset of Heat quite obviously.
Resisting a singular way in which your brain can be controlled and outright brain control in general, not just your senses, isn't the same at all.
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What the heck...
"Resisting a singular way in which your brain can be controlled and outright brain control in general, not just your senses, isn't the same at all."
Okay, first of. Mind Control (What people generally mean when they say Mind Manipulation) is not full scale Mind Manipulation. It, in and of itself, is a subset of Mind Manipulation.
I'll just make a thread on it tbh.
"Resisting a singular way in which your brain can be controlled and outright brain control in general, not just your senses, isn't the same at all."
Okay, first of. Mind Control (What people generally mean when they say Mind Manipulation) is not full scale Mind Manipulation. It, in and of itself, is a subset of Mind Manipulation.
I'll just make a thread on it tbh.
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That seems for the best.
And when I said mind control I didn't mean literally controlling someone, but in controlling the mind itself and all of it's aspects, which is what Mind Manip is all about.
And when I said mind control I didn't mean literally controlling someone, but in controlling the mind itself and all of it's aspects, which is what Mind Manip is all about.
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Also someone had asked about it last thread so:
How is Eidolon the strongest when Glaistig Uaine is strictly better though
There's not a single strongest one. The silly ones include Goddess (Parahumans) (Passive mindhax, among other things), Eidolon (Worm), Glaistig Uaine, Khepri with all equipment, Cauldro, Blindside, and all the Endbringers.Zenkaibattery1 said:
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Because Tier 0 shenanigansLivinmeme said:
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Because Tier 0 shenanigans
I/0 hasn't been Tier 0 in years, and I severely doubt they'll get into the new 0.
I/0 hasn't been Tier 0 in years, and I severely doubt they'll get into the new 0.
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How come Kouga is below Wally? The reasoning for it seems like its less solid than MPs
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Unless I was misunderstanding it seemed they both had 5 votes at the time so I don't see how that's "bodying" anything. But I do need to finish the revisions so I'm not going to start any arguments over it.Beast Zero Gudako said:
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Dont forget she has High 1-A Immortality, her main weakness is no resistances.
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Camilla Hui Guo Rou for 3rd Strongest 10-A.
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Why is Cthulhu (CSTW) above Ahzek Ahriman in Speed Equalized?
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He shouldn't be, his 1-A hax was downgraded to Low 1-C
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He has Low-1-C hax in his Tier 5 key? Either way Ahzek only requires a thought to completely hax him and could probably avoid his hax with precog.
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Perhaps Gamer boy from relatively unknown Bleach game for 7-A
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What's with those pages lmao.
I knew that Dante got a buff in AP for most part, but didn't know his pages also had tons of stuff added
I knew that Dante got a buff in AP for most part, but didn't know his pages also had tons of stuff added
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Funny things happen when you decide to search for feats in the whole franchise
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Ok, so I just noticed. Can Sabrina Spellmen put down all the 10-A SCP characters? How does she put down Clef?
And for that matter, I'm pretty sure SCP and Jojo should be tied for the second strongest 10-A. Most of the strongest contenders for Jojo can't actually take out Clef, with the notable exception being maybe Weather Report, but Weather Report gets noped by Blackbird, so it evens out.
And for that matter, I'm pretty sure SCP and Jojo should be tied for the second strongest 10-A. Most of the strongest contenders for Jojo can't actually take out Clef, with the notable exception being maybe Weather Report, but Weather Report gets noped by Blackbird, so it evens out.
