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Not at all. The dude breaks causality with speed iirc. In other words he literally outruns almighty.The Prince of Counters said:
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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 18
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Isn't he more of a stone wall rather than haxed? So way harder to put down compared to his offensive options.SpookyShadow said:
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Obviously I meant with like speed Equalized unless that doesn't stop speed shit like that.
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Valentine has 2-A defensive hax protecting him. Even if you can deal with the hax, there is still physically a multiverse between you and him. You basically need spacial manipulation and hax resistance to even hurt him. Also, you have to either be able to kill him in one attack or be able to deal damage that follows the soul, because otherwise he just swaps bodies and is fine.
Also, if you put him on the ropes, you'll need to be able to deal with time stop, because he is likely to summon Alt Diego brando if he thinks he is gonna die. Worth noting, but most people who can beat him will end up one shotting him
Also, if you put him on the ropes, you'll need to be able to deal with time stop, because he is likely to summon Alt Diego brando if he thinks he is gonna die. Worth noting, but most people who can beat him will end up one shotting him
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He can bring another version of you to current world and make you and that version merge to basically EE you.Firephoenixearl said:
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Don't forget his borderline passive FusionismSpookyShadow said:
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Iapitus The Impaler said:
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Though Funny Valentine should share a spot with Rakudai characters, or be above.
Cus rakudai can beat GER cus acausality and Rohan cus faster hax. But Funny valentine is way harder to put down. Unless he doesn't start within the defensive light.
If he does it's at worst an inconc. At best FV should be able to beat Rakudai ppl here.
Cus rakudai can beat GER cus acausality and Rohan cus faster hax. But Funny valentine is way harder to put down. Unless he doesn't start within the defensive light.
If he does it's at worst an inconc. At best FV should be able to beat Rakudai ppl here.
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What's faster than Rohan's thinking?
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Rohan later learns to use Heaven's Door by just thinking.
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End of DiU Rohan can just think and its doneFirephoenixearl said:
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Actually funnily enough FV may be the only jojo character who prevents top tier desperados from solo'ing Jojo (outside of beyonder obviously).Iapitus The Impaler said:
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From the profile
Note: Rohan at the beginning of DiU is restricted to using images of his Stand to induce his book transmutation ability. By the end, Rohan is able to manifest his Stand in mid-air whilst also allowing him to induce the same ability with just a point of his fingers. Later in his one-shots, Rohan is seen using his Stand ability through thought alone.
Note: Rohan at the beginning of DiU is restricted to using images of his Stand to induce his book transmutation ability. By the end, Rohan is able to manifest his Stand in mid-air whilst also allowing him to induce the same ability with just a point of his fingers. Later in his one-shots, Rohan is seen using his Stand ability through thought alone.
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Beyonder?
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And can't HA Dio just stop time and erase them?
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HADIO is 8-CSpookyShadow said:
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8-C with EE and Reality Warping
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He gets haxed to death
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He means the Beyond. You know, the guy who sees the JoJo multiverse as fiction.SpookyShadow said:
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There is also Joji with his Low 1-C defensive plot manip, but he is more of a brick wall than anything elseFirephoenixearl said:
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Infinite speed doesn't help?
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Nope, not against passives
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Iirc Ikki won against him.Iapitus The Impaler said:
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Time stop doesn't even work cus of Type 4.
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timestop works on type 4s just fine
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I mean Time stop is still part of Causality which these guys transcend.Oblivion Of The Endless said:
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Novel Kars? Also Hermes because Greek Gods never lose ovoFirephoenixearl said:
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Time Stop still works on Type 4 Acausals, I don't know what are you talking about Earl.
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So, I dunno if that means anything, but apparently High 6-A Vecna got stomped.
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That means Rakudai is outta High 6-A again.Ultima Reality said:
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Big oof.
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More like it needs proof that it doesn't work. In this case we know it doesn't as they transcend the causality system which includes abilities like Time Stop from Kurono.Ionliosite said:
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Causality based time stop...?
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More like "Time manipulation" as a whole (including time stop) falls under the "Causation system".SpookyShadow said:
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Zhong Yue for 7-A, type 8 Immortality on Faith (Prayers), Soul Manipulation to a high degree via Yuan Shen,
Can create almost anything as long as his mind can comprehand it,
Instinctive reaction (even uncounscious or sleeping),
Can copy abstract and complex techniques just by seeing them once, including entire fighting arts,
limited Reactive Evolution,
Can absorp any type of energy to create thousands of attacks,
Empowerment and healing by being under the presence of the Sun and the Moon - absorbing their energy,
Passive Power Suppression, Master of a multitude of weapons like swords, hooks, whips, hammers, sabers and shields,
High degree of body control like reconnecting his blood veins, stem the muscles to stop the bleeding, shift his abdomen and back muscles to rejoin broken ribs and control and close off all his pores,
Most important being his Analytical Prediction which I think it's the highest on the wiki - He can predict what an opponent will do next by calculating the flow of their blood essences, the shortcomings of their skills, the positions of their Yuan Shen, the weaknesses of their mortal body, their movements, habits and their next points of attack. As if he had gone through the same predicament thousands of times that he knew exactly what to do and where to move in order to evade the skills. Furthermore, he can predict through their personalities, thoughts, and even their instincts from dozens of foes at the same time and calculate the changes and results of hundreds of millions of skills at once.
Can create almost anything as long as his mind can comprehand it,
Instinctive reaction (even uncounscious or sleeping),
Can copy abstract and complex techniques just by seeing them once, including entire fighting arts,
limited Reactive Evolution,
Can absorp any type of energy to create thousands of attacks,
Empowerment and healing by being under the presence of the Sun and the Moon - absorbing their energy,
Passive Power Suppression, Master of a multitude of weapons like swords, hooks, whips, hammers, sabers and shields,
High degree of body control like reconnecting his blood veins, stem the muscles to stop the bleeding, shift his abdomen and back muscles to rejoin broken ribs and control and close off all his pores,
Most important being his Analytical Prediction which I think it's the highest on the wiki - He can predict what an opponent will do next by calculating the flow of their blood essences, the shortcomings of their skills, the positions of their Yuan Shen, the weaknesses of their mortal body, their movements, habits and their next points of attack. As if he had gone through the same predicament thousands of times that he knew exactly what to do and where to move in order to evade the skills. Furthermore, he can predict through their personalities, thoughts, and even their instincts from dozens of foes at the same time and calculate the changes and results of hundreds of millions of skills at once.
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How does his passive power suppression work? Can he effect abstracts and Non-existent beings? How good are his resistances? Does he have any smurf abilities?
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I think he is just nominating for the 5th spotIapitus The Impaler said:
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@Oblivion
Are you gonna change the number one spot of 7-A to Characters from Masadaverse and Nasuverse?
Also, I ask about the abstracts because Lucetta Quetzl is a 7-A with Abstract Existence, so it matters
Are you gonna change the number one spot of 7-A to Characters from Masadaverse and Nasuverse?
Also, I ask about the abstracts because Lucetta Quetzl is a 7-A with Abstract Existence, so it matters
