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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 18

The Prince of Counters said:
So without Ragnarok could Yhwach fight Amakasu? ( Note: Not win, i mean as in not being a horrific stomp.)
Not at all. The dude breaks causality with speed iirc. In other words he literally outruns almighty.
 
Valentine has 2-A defensive hax protecting him. Even if you can deal with the hax, there is still physically a multiverse between you and him. You basically need spacial manipulation and hax resistance to even hurt him. Also, you have to either be able to kill him in one attack or be able to deal damage that follows the soul, because otherwise he just swaps bodies and is fine.

Also, if you put him on the ropes, you'll need to be able to deal with time stop, because he is likely to summon Alt Diego brando if he thinks he is gonna die. Worth noting, but most people who can beat him will end up one shotting him
 
Firephoenixearl said:
SpookyShadow said:
Valentine is also super haxed
Isn't he more of a stone wall rather than haxed? So way harder to put down compared to his offensive options.
He can bring another version of you to current world and make you and that version merge to basically EE you.
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
Valentine has 2-A defensive hax protecting him. Even if you can deal with the hax, there is still physically a multiverse between you and him. You basically need spacial manipulation and hax resistance to even hurt him.
Yet he also can't attack as long as he's in there, so

Say sike right now
 
Though Funny Valentine should share a spot with Rakudai characters, or be above.

Cus rakudai can beat GER cus acausality and Rohan cus faster hax. But Funny valentine is way harder to put down. Unless he doesn't start within the defensive light.

If he does it's at worst an inconc. At best FV should be able to beat Rakudai ppl here.
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
SpookyShadow said:
He can bring another version of you to current world and make you and that version merge to basically EE you.
Don't forget his borderline passive Fusionism
Actually funnily enough FV may be the only jojo character who prevents top tier desperados from solo'ing Jojo (outside of beyonder obviously).
 
From the profile

Note: Rohan at the beginning of DiU is restricted to using images of his Stand to induce his book transmutation ability. By the end, Rohan is able to manifest his Stand in mid-air whilst also allowing him to induce the same ability with just a point of his fingers. Later in his one-shots, Rohan is seen using his Stand ability through thought alone.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Actually funnily enough FV may be the only jojo character who prevents top tier desperados from solo'ing Jojo (outside of beyonder obviously).
There is also Joji with his Low 1-C defensive plot manip, but he is more of a brick wall than anything else
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
There is also Joji with his Low 1-C defensive plot manip, but he is more of a brick wall than anything else
Iirc Ikki won against him.

@Spooky

Time stop doesn't even work cus of Type 4. Can't believe that inf speed on Dio is still a thing
 
For the law manip discussion from earlier. A few weeks back I would have disagreed, but after talking to other people about the topic, I agree with Iapitus.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Iapitus The Impaler said:
SpookyShadow said:
He can bring another version of you to current world and make you and that version merge to basically EE you.
Don't forget his borderline passive Fusionism
Actually funnily enough FV may be the only jojo character who prevents top tier desperados from solo'ing Jojo (outside of beyonder obviously).
Novel Kars? Also Hermes because Greek Gods never lose ovo
 
Ionliosite said:
Time Stop still works on Type 4 Acausals, I don't know what are you talking about Earl.
More like it needs proof that it doesn't work. In this case we know it doesn't as they transcend the causality system which includes abilities like Time Stop from Kurono.
 
Zhong Yue for 7-A, type 8 Immortality on Faith (Prayers), Soul Manipulation to a high degree via Yuan Shen,

Can create almost anything as long as his mind can comprehand it,

Instinctive reaction (even uncounscious or sleeping),

Can copy abstract and complex techniques just by seeing them once, including entire fighting arts,

limited Reactive Evolution,

Can absorp any type of energy to create thousands of attacks,

Empowerment and healing by being under the presence of the Sun and the Moon - absorbing their energy,

Passive Power Suppression, Master of a multitude of weapons like swords, hooks, whips, hammers, sabers and shields,

High degree of body control like reconnecting his blood veins, stem the muscles to stop the bleeding, shift his abdomen and back muscles to rejoin broken ribs and control and close off all his pores,

Most important being his Analytical Prediction which I think it's the highest on the wiki - He can predict what an opponent will do next by calculating the flow of their blood essences, the shortcomings of their skills, the positions of their Yuan Shen, the weaknesses of their mortal body, their movements, habits and their next points of attack. As if he had gone through the same predicament thousands of times that he knew exactly what to do and where to move in order to evade the skills. Furthermore, he can predict through their personalities, thoughts, and even their instincts from dozens of foes at the same time and calculate the changes and results of hundreds of millions of skills at once.
 
How does his passive power suppression work? Can he effect abstracts and Non-existent beings? How good are his resistances? Does he have any smurf abilities?
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
How does his passive power suppression work? Can he effect abstracts and Non-existent beings? How good are his resistances? Does he have any smurf abilities?
I think he is just nominating for the 5th spot
 
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