Top 5 Most Skilled Characters for Every Tier 2

[Creaturemaster971]

Honestly, I'm not sure.

Ideally I'd say, for example

1. Ikki and Nanami

2. Jin Mo-Ri

3. Shichika+ (with the plus, or whatever sign we use, representing less notable peers in the same verse)

 

[TheArsenal1212]

James Bond (Composite) for 9-B. He's either 3 or 2

 

[RatherClueless]

So, should we add a 1 character per franchise rule? Pretty sure a few notable verses would dominate the top 5 then.

Isnt it just "characters from x-verse" for those cases?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

There is also Ban Midou in 8-B. He has pretty good power mimicry, info analysis etc.

 

[Blackcurrant91]

Jin Tae-Ji for 3rd High 4-C

 

[Paul_Frank]

Nasu 7-Bs are all 7-A now I'm pretty sure or they will be after revisions are finished so they should probably be removed from 7-B

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Ban is plenty skilled, but I'm not sure that he really measures up to the likes of Iihiko and Oogway

And regarding the "Characters from X Verse" thing, I think we could keep doing this for the sake of ease, but if there's a character that is way beyond their own verse then they can probably go in a separate slot. So this would mean both Nanami and Shichika can be on there, but I'm not sure about how Edelweiss compares to Ikki

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Since it came up in another thread. Just to point out, but Ikki Kurogane actually won vs Amane Shinomiya using nothing but skill. His skill was actually getting him through Fate and Probability hax. Pretty sure Nanami can never even come close to this kind of feat.

 

[First_Witch]

Earl bro, thats as much of a skill feat as Yhwach getting PISarrowed. Thats PIS no matter how you look at it.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

No PIS included actually. The only thing you could call CIS is Amane not ending the fight before it began (as in him wishing for the fight to happen, and not wish to win without fighting like he did before). For real. Call it PIS, call it CIS it was actually given a nice explanation via Ikki's skill.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

What explanation was that? I can't find it on the pages

 

[RatherClueless]

I didnt get that far yet (almost done with vol. 4), but couldnt he just wish for Ikki to die (and stay dead)?

 

[Creaturemaster971]

I think that was the hearty-restarty thing

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I didnt get that far yet (almost done with vol. 4), but couldnt he just wish for Ikki to die (and stay dead)?

He did:

Ikki's heart stopped and he was on his knees on the ground, amane approaches and goes for the hit. BOOM counterattack ikki lands a full blow on amane. Ikki had restarted his own heart without anyone noticing.

More importantly, ya reading the light novel? Nice.

 

[Huesito88]

I've seen better biological death manipulation still impressive though.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Hmm? Well amane shows better biological death manip later on, but Ikki doesn't really body control himself outta it.

 

[First_Witch]

Going to update the list, can someone nutshell all proposed changes?

 

[Creaturemaster971]

 

[Paul_Frank]

Remove nasu from 7-B since there are no more 7-Bs

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Precisely.

He had enough skill to insta fix his stuff after it had been probability maniped into missing. He was literally fighting passive probability and fate hax and won with skill. xD

 

[Creaturemaster971]

So, I don't think Nanami could do that in base, but she could certainly insta-learn it.

Can Ikki use raw skill to instantly replicate an opponent's AP and Durability the moment he meets them?

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Jesus Christ, we need to do an Ikki vs Nanami match. I'd honestly be rooting for an inconclusive

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Im pretty sure you can't replicate AP with skill.

But yes pls make the match. Strongest version Nanami vs SSSFA arc Ikki

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Nanami does. It's why she has a 7-A key. She met a race of giants, saw how strong they were, and replicated their combined strength before genociding all of them and destroying the mountain they lived on.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Well everything in Katanagatari is some form of skill. Growing your nails can actually be learned, so yeah i'd say why not.

Pretty sure Ikki could copy that too. Considering he literally copied Body Control from fighting Edelweiss. If it can be learned then yes. He learns things that takes geniuses decades to learn in moments, without even needing to actually see it.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

If we made that matchup I feel like it would be the most inconclusive fight on this wiki.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

If we made that matchup I feel like it would be the most inconclusive fight on this wiki.

Just cus of copy?

Need i remind you Medaka vs Kars was a thing?

Do make it though. Ikki should be able to deal even with 7-A Nanami, if no we can change later.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Quick question before I do, is Desperado hax skill-based?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Quick question before I do, is Desperado hax skill-based?

No??

He broke through fate by trying really hard, i don't even know what that is. (breaking through fate makes you a desperado)

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Sounds like willpower manip, maybe?

Either way, I probably shouldn't make the matchup until the Katanagatari revision is done (which I need to ****** kick into high gear), since it means new stuff could come to light about how Nanami's God Eyes and Deathless Body work

 

[Firephoenixearl]

No, he did it by literally trying really hard. He wanted to beat Stella Vermillio so he just "broke through the chains of fate". It's not a power, just awakening. Idk if it counts as skill though.

Katanagatari has ended ages ago, no? Why are there CRT's about it?

 

[RatherClueless]

More importantly, ya reading the light novel? Nice.

Watched anime, then manga to chptr 40, now LN.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

More importantly, ya reading the light novel? Nice.

Watched anime, then manga to chptr 40, now LN.

You needn't really have bothered with the manga outside of maybe for Edelweiss' desperado hax, but eh. You sure are at it with a nasty pace. Keep it up. xD

How are you liking the show so far?

 

[RatherClueless]

Its good too much siscon though

At this point Nanami >>> Ikki though. Not sure how it will continue though.

Edit: I am using too much "though"...

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Also i need someone knowledgeable on Warhammer to know what makes the assassins impressive outside of a single snipe.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Its good too much siscon though
At this point Nanami >>> Ikki though. Not sure how it will continue though.

It's actually Brocon, since it's Shizuku that's throwing herself, not Ikki Glad you're enjoying it.

Even at that point im pretty sure Ikki has far better feats and about equal copying.

 

[Wokistan]

Also i need someone knowledgeable on Warhammer to know what makes the assassins impressive outside of a single snipe.

Quite a lot, but I'll explain later because I got a massive headache rn

 

[Firephoenixearl]

It's ok. Though im expecting quite the feats later, it's not an ordinary day when someone can go up against ikki in skill

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Katanagatari has ended ages ago, no? Why are there CRT's about it?

Because me and Agnaa are the only users currently working on the verse, and he hasn't been on it for a while, so I'm revisiting the whole franchise to correct all the misconceptions on the pages (which are there courtesy of me)

 

[RatherClueless]

@ Earl

He doesnt. Not even close, actually.

He copied Stellas style. Mhm, ok

He copied the style of the samurai dude, by fighting with his daughter, who moved 1:1 like her dad (she also knew about the secret technique, I just dont think she ever used. In the anime it was literally just Ikki running forwards lol. Not very special...). Mhm, ok

Thats it...

None of them were some rly special fighting styles with rly stupid techniques or anything like that either. Just, well... "regular" fighting styles. Not even close to canceling your own weight.

He had to fight for quite some time with them aswell...