Even though I'm sure Eden won at equalized speed, Eden wouldn't be able to do anything against someone beyond her perception speed and Onoki could kill her somehow with Jinton. They can share the same space at equal speed (Eden Weiss) and unequal speed (Onoki).
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Onoki (オオノキ, Ōnoki), renowned as "Ōnoki of Both Scales" (両天秤のオオノキ), is the Third Tsuchikage (三代目土影, Sandaime Tsuchikage) of Iwagakure. Tier: 7-B physically, likely 6-C with Ninjutsu Name: Ōnoki, "Ōnoki of Both Scales" Origin: Naruto Gender: Male Age: 79 in Part II, 81 in The Last, 90's in The...
I could use some extra input here regarding on if what basically boils down to voluntary self-induced-BFR counts as something even possible by SBA, and/or basically an auto-lose by definition.
If the character leave the battlefield and don't come back in one week, so the other character win by default
How many layers of CM?
For context, the character is time traveling to find the past version of his opponent, but the problem is that doesn't really work because the character doesn't even exist yet and can only be created after a separate character evolves. Said character is also basically immune to his main form of attack.
If can do nothing to affect the character and/or can't even find him, so he will lose via self-BFR
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This wording, if assumed true, would be conceding a win to Kessler since he's traveling into the past and reaching a point in time that character doesn't exist. It would technically be a temporal paradox, similar to a Grandfather Paradox, but instead of killing off the thing that birthed you, it would be reaching a temporal point that you didn't exist in -- Both result in a confliction in causality, but both reach its confliction differently.
That's just called time travel to before a character was born and... doing nothing, at best this'd be an inconclusive in the same manner a character becomes invulnerable with stuff like NEP and whatever but has no win condition against the opponent either, except that as confirmed above with BFR standards this'd currently result in a loss for Kessler if anything. That said, it would be best to see whichever conclusion is reached on this topic as you plan to do a CRT to corroborate on this.
It wouldn't be an inconclusive match as that implies both characters are incapable of defeating the other, while in this situation, Kessler is explicitly defeating Shedinja by traveling to a point in time in the past that Shedinja doesn't exist anymore, because it hasn't even been born yet. Kessler is retroactively removing Shedinja from reality through placing himself at a point in time that Shedinja doesn't even exist as an entity within reality.
I'd think so, the average verse doesn't treat mere time travel to a point before a character was born as inherently detrimental to it, as much merely time traveling at all doesn't inherently cause paradoxes, otherwise you'd end up with series whose entire premise is time traveling to the past at all inherently having no present to return to.
Yeah, no, any of them hax them out before they even get the chance to try and use that shit, and the person with the void you are talking about doesn't even have high 6-A key and even if he did, he would get passively nuked by Ergen people, Ji Ning thinks and nukes his soul, Zhong Yue has a laundry list of shit he can do while they can't actually do much to him, but he does just exist and EE/Deconstruct them, Dragon Talisman has what Zhong Yue does but much much worse, lmfao
Actually there a rule if there condition a character incon with spot 3, 4, 5 and it would place at spot 5 at least. You cant just incon go to, because you can't just incon to get the higher spot. Unless Xue Ying could beat Medea and not only incon, then he would be in the same spot as Parca. As discussed previously, because they are incon with each other.
Xue Ying beats Ecang due to him being able to just remake his avatar after they kill each other. He incaps Parca and Medea due to just passively killing them whenever their avatars show up near him again.
What is range Xue Ying, since her both has immortality 9 on 2-A. Also if he can passively kill Medea Avatar, its meaning he has wincon? Since incon the condition two cant do each other.
IHe has Low 2-C range normally so he can't permanently kill her but destroy her bodies/avatars. I'm fairly sure we decided that incaps are valid win conditions. Like, a dude standing around and his enemy getting atomized repeatedly doesn't strike me as an inconclusive match, which is what would happen here, unless Medea self BFRs and stays away from him. OP can correct me here.
Its combat applicable, but due to her form of existence is not ideal, so yeah she cant maintain her existence on her plane so long. That's why she need ritual to existing in the Human World but it by possess her human vessel, but it took 12 weeks to complete ritual.
I disagree. In versus battles, there is a specific battlefield based on the match. If character X time-travels to a point where character Y has not yet existed, this is just leaving the battlefield, because in reverse logic, characters who BFR their opponent to the past (big bang, birth of the universe etc) or future (end of space-time etc) can obtain wincons by removing their opponent from the battlefield.
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This logic doesn't make any sense, the character didn't do anything against Shedinja and only traveled to a place where he never existed. By this same logic, crossing to a dimension in which character X never existed would also be a Wincon.
Pochita, Darkness, Falling should share fourth with speed equalize, Schwartz has no resistance to the stuff like cm erasure, fear manip, empath manip either. In fifth, Fray characters aren't fast enough, and can't resist the stuff like cm erasure, fear manip, empath manip.
