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cm erasure is contact based
schwartz will BFR, time stop, time travel before any of that
schwartz will BFR, time stop, time travel before any of that
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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0
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Arkenis
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Where does this BFR go? How long is the time stop? Will he just bring them to a different time period and dip?
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Any different time period, as far as jurassic age. Time stop is as long as he wished.
His Power Absorbtion also affected Rider Power which is Type 1 Concept.
Edit: Also, Another Ridewatch deteriorate the user mind, and drive the user insane with power. This, doesn't affected Swartz
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Kamen Rider Cronus for 10th spot of Low 2-C.
Open time stop, GG. His "regen neg" also cause the victim to stuck in the moment of death forever. Worse come to worse, Cronus hit the reset button and Lukas go get hit by his Reset so his strongest key got return to the past.
Open time stop, GG. His "regen neg" also cause the victim to stuck in the moment of death forever. Worse come to worse, Cronus hit the reset button and Lukas go get hit by his Reset so his strongest key got return to the past.
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The lack of Pokemon in the list is cringe, so I made yet another match for 6-C
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Obsidian for #3 9-A. I don't think Ainz can harm him due to his NEP, but he can oneshot in return.
Toujou Karuna for #7 High 8-C. As only Bunny supporter I can say with confidence he stomps her at the very least. She can't kill him due to his resurrection.
In 7-B he should manage to rank above Brunhild Schild, as there isn't much she can do against time stop.
Darquesse for the free spots in Low 7-B, 7-B and 3-A.
As for 7-A... I think she can defeat Sirius. If that is contested I can make a match.
Toujou Karuna for #7 High 8-C. As only Bunny supporter I can say with confidence he stomps her at the very least. She can't kill him due to his resurrection.
In 7-B he should manage to rank above Brunhild Schild, as there isn't much she can do against time stop.
Darquesse for the free spots in Low 7-B, 7-B and 3-A.
As for 7-A... I think she can defeat Sirius. If that is contested I can make a match.
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Yeah Obsidian taking the 9-A spot is fine
Surprised you didn't try for Arthas' spot in 7-A but you do kind of need something other then AP(or Mindhax) to beat him, otherwise he's going 5-B lol
Surprised you didn't try for Arthas' spot in 7-A but you do kind of need something other then AP(or Mindhax) to beat him, otherwise he's going 5-B lol
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Tbh I mainly didn't try for his spot because I'm too lazy to work through his P&A with that many tabbers and abilities.
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Really the problem with DK Arthas is that mindhax,(Frostmourne has Body Control) soulhax,(He doesn't have a soul) and AP beatdowns(Frostmourne body controlling makes him go 5-B) don't work on him lol
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I mean, Darquesse really just would need to drag things out until her Accelerated Development boosts her into the 3-A key. How long that takes is... hard to say. Technically the key only "ends" right before the 3-A version, after all. All feats before that are part of it.
I suppose?
Although that makes me wonder if either she should have one or if we need to revise a bunch of incorporeal cosmic entities lol
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TBH that all depends on if she's skilled enough to not get bodied in the eventual melee, since Arthas seems to resist everything of her's besides EE, and that asks the question of if she's ever even used it on people
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Oh yeah, she can EE via her black flames. Loves to kill people with that stuff.
Here's some examples:
In fact, she has this thing where she doesn't even truly consider people dead until they are wiped from existence, even if they were atomized.
But she can also make a million copies of herself that are all "aspects" of her and each as strong as her full power. So she can just fight him with those while some part of her is chilling in a different dimension so that he can't finish her off.
Btw. whatever her spot ends up, the Faceless Ones can probably share it, even if they are somewhat less powerful.
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Yeah that should be sufficient to beat Arthas, this isn't Lich King where he like to hax people, this is DK where he loves himself melee combat
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Also, I suggest putting Xue Ying in the same spot with Parca in Low 2-C as me and Planck discussed above.
Dragonite007
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Done
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Isn't Arthas thousands of times faster in speed unequalized? That should give him a spot the previously mentioned speed uh...Tiering?
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Arthas' movement speed is like molasses in winter, even on Invincible, cause Superhuman is insufficient to blitz that distance
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Put Makina above people who are 6-D, she has a possibly 7-D rating
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How -DID- Makina get below sonic exactly
Noneless21
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because im too lazy to debate why she's there, in fact, I wont even comment if someone decided to just put her out, because i couldn't care less anymore
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Wise words, Kratos Kirby.
But yeah, she has a possibly 7D key.
But yeah, she has a possibly 7D key.
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Kinda surprised they aren't on here already, but characters from Granblue Fantasy should be in 1-C due to being 7-D. The primary candidate for it being Lucilius, and unless she can affect Type 2 NEP. Not really seeing much of what Makina can do to him.
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WoW went to the LotR school of garbage movement speed compared to combat speed I see.
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Yeah only our dragons are really fast and similarly fast beasts like hippogryphs act as mounts so people can go fast
Horses like Invincible aren't on that list
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Evidently a match-up where it's just WoW vs LotR characters in a foot race might be our best bet at a fair match up.
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Cebollinha can't actually affect him or his own AE, especially as he resists most of the nonsense he could try and do and Cebollinha doesn't have AE himself some he gets nuked via law hax
For clockwork second verse same as the first, time hax doesn't work considering how his fate and presence in the timeline don't exist anymore, so he can't actually do shit to Wei Huo, at best he gets incon'd forever due to AE
See the above
Discord is even worse because he just has AE2 so he actually just gets haxed out since that law hax resist means nothing here as their powers are wholly superordinate to laws both alien and usual and there is no timeframe for his ae letting him come back (and before you mention the immeasurable travel speed he can just nuke the cosmology and so that means that "future" discord wouldn't be able to come back to the past)
I actually wonder how the pokemon gods are above him (I already know, it's cause concepts were thought superior to laws before and arceus used to be 2-A) since they can't actually do anything to each other
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aizen slams spongebob for 3-C and 4-A
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Aizen Vs Spongebob
Since Aizen beat Mickey, this only seemed right (And since Yhwach vs Sponge didn't finish) Peak 3-C versions (Muken Aizen Vs Invincibubble) Aizen is 460.3 Zettafoe, Sponge is 183.56049 Zettafoe Speed = Non Smurf rules otherwise Narcissist: Cleaning Utensil: Yhwach establishes dominance over both:
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Ulthane
Ulthane is a side character within Darksiders and Darksiders III Ulthane is a maker, an Old One older than any Angel or Demon, and the race that laid the foundations for every world in creation.[2] While Ulthane remained in the forgelands for most of his life,[3] and leaving when brought into a...
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Kazuma_kuwabara
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Aizen has 4D illusions or something like thataizen slams spongebob for 3-C and 4-A
Aizen Vs Spongebob
Since Aizen beat Mickey, this only seemed right (And since Yhwach vs Sponge didn't finish) Peak 3-C versions (Muken Aizen Vs Invincibubble) Aizen is 460.3 Zettafoe, Sponge is 183.56049 Zettafoe Speed = Non Smurf rules otherwise Narcissist: Cleaning Utensil: Yhwach establishes dominance over both:
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what no???
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Are you sure?
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Plot manip says hi, and I don't think he can kill him because NEP2 just kicks in. Specially when Cebollin apparently has a higher scaling on speed
How does law manip work, and could it hypothetically bypass AE based on a type 1 concept?
Nah, He isn't doing shit to them
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AddedUlthane to placehold in 8-B. Not a lot most can do against a guy who's functionally 5-B and skilled enough to box some of the 40K greats like Khârn the Betrayer comfortablyUlthane
Ulthane is a side character within Darksiders and Darksiders III Ulthane is a maker, an Old One older than any Angel or Demon, and the race that laid the foundations for every world in creation.[2] While Ulthane remained in the forgelands for most of his life,[3] and leaving when brought into a...
