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I thought in nominating them but didn't do thinking in the future upgrades, but since I can't continue making them do to don't have my pc and how much is still left to add to his new profile the upgrades will take some months more so better just do the fights now instead of wait so much.Think Gufadgarn (and Vandalieu due to being canonically stronger than Gufadgarn) should be above Geist Grace in 7-A.
Reason being that Gufadgarns true self is in a distant place in a pocket dimension i.e. completely outside of Geist Grace's range. Gufadgarn in turn can just mind hax or something.
I can make a thread, though, if someone thinks it's not a stomp.
For the first one honestly he can still be very high, but still within H4C if we take the lowest possible end aka baseline 4C for his Executor modeHow is he 4B? As he doesn't have a value for 4C then an increase of 1000x times won't get to such value if his value is not pretty near the limit of 4C. Same can be said for his 3B jump from 3C with a just 130x increase.
I agree with this, he must increase 24000 times to reach that levelHow is he 4B? As he doesn't have a value for 4C then an increase of 1000x times won't get to such value
He's not High 4-C but 4-C... then he's 4-C but its not a sure tier but a possibility. You first need a value for this key before you can apply a multiplier. Also, it says his energy increased not his power...is energy = power? Sincerely looks like a CRT is needed for him and whoever scales or use the same method to be tiered in-verse.
Odin has that weird "resets to a past state whenever something about him is changed"-attribute, which I assume prevents all of that.
What are they capable of doing?Characters from Ergenverse
They're Chinese, what can't they do? would be a better question lolWhat are they capable of doing?
They're Chinese, what can't they do? would be a better question lol
That's what makes it unique :3
I recall a novel where ball-crushing was a martial art, and another where swapping anyones gender was martial arts too. They're still pretty darn fun to me, though.
Lin Fan's [No More Descendants] technique.I recall a novel where ball-crushing was a martial art
Goes through upgrades. [Ball Kicking] ---> [No More Descendants] --> [True Origins Crushing Kick]Eyy that was it. Lin Fan's was the MC's name, that's for sure, although I recall the technique being called another thing?
Man I gotta continue that novel. It was pretty funny tbh.
hmmh seems like it automatically resets and did help him to revert sensory manip. Idk really, cuz if it could revert even mind stuff, he would technically have no new experience at all(since whenever he receives new information, his mind/memory will just reset back to 16 years ago and basically a self mind-looping)Odin has that weird "resets to a past state whenever something about him is changed"-attribute, which I assume prevents all of that.
Odin also has conceptual mind manipulation (yes, it is a thing in the franchise), but Odin himself implied that none of his conceptual manipulations can change Das Rheingold's effect.hmmh seems like it automatically resets and did help him to revert sensory manip. Idk really, cuz if it could revert even mind stuff, he would technically have no new experience at all(since whenever he receives new information, his mind/memory will just reset back to 16 years ago and basically a self mind-looping)
oh ok, basically ''reset'' on a conceptual level right, it can revert mind hax if so. But even then Odin would technically get stuck in a constant loop as whenever his existence got reverted back to its original state, he would then immediately be mind/fear/madness... haxxed and would not have the chance to even fight back in any waysnip
Yes, basically an Incon.oh ok, basically ''reset'' on a conceptual level right, it can revert mind hax if so. But even then Odin would technically get stuck in a constant loop as whenever his existence got reverted back to its original state, he would then immediately be mind/fear/madness... haxxed and would not have the chance to even fight back in any way
well I thought that would be a wincon via essentially incap, according to SBAYes, basically an Incon.
He doesnt resists the haxes, he's simply "regenerates" from them.
Probally ? Depend on the standard on the Incap, because Uriel is also stuck there and have to continuingly using his haxes on Odin, this is pretty much 2 fighters who battles for thousand days.well I thought that would be a wincon via essentially incap, according to SBA
Odin has conceptual spatial manip, allow him to teleport/creates/delete dimensions as he wishes. Even if Uriel BFR Odin, Odin would simply teleporting back and could catch Uriel off guard and outright rewrite the concepts of Uriel powers (yes, he can rewrite people's power through manipulating those power's concepts)If that still doesn't work then Uriel can potentially win via BFR
actually... not really, Uriel just stands there and Odin continuously gets haxxedProbally ? Depend on the standard on the Incap, because Uriel is also stuck there and have to continuingly using his haxes on Odin, this is pretty much 2 fighters who battles for thousand days.
seems he can bypass BFR thenOdin has conceptual spatial manip, allow him to teleport/creates/delete dimensions as he wishes. Even if Uriel BFR Odin, Odin would simply teleporting back and could catch Uriel off guard and outright rewrite the concepts of Uriel powers (yes, he can rewrite people's power through manipulating those power's concepts)
Yes, the same way 2 fighters would endlessly stalemate each other. If Uriel stop/going away somewhere, it would be the end for him.actually... not really, Uriel just stands there and Odin continuously gets haxxed
He is actually an expert on BFR... conceptually.seems he can bypass BFR then
hmmh fair and yeh, I'm looking forward to your argumentYes, the same way 2 fighters would endlessly stalemate each other. If Uriel stop/going away somewhere, it would be the end for him.
Thinking back and fort about my argument, I actually dont know if this legit enough or not.I'm looking forward to your argument
I can't be sure if this is going to work on haxes other than projectile-like ones. Since technically it creates an infinite ''distance/space'' between him and the opponent which is why it would take basically an infinite amount of time for attacks with finite speed to hit him, which I believe is not the case here as passive, especially ones that are caused by the very nature/presence of the user isn't technically spatial-relevant. I can't think of another word to describe it but let's say that ''space'' between Odin and Uriel isn't physical space, what I mean here is it would only work as you said if the distance between them is literally a High-3A Space when the fight begins.But my argument for Odin's victory is that he can outrange Uriel.
In Sayuki's route, Odin does come prepared before the battle, by setting up the infinite space/distance between him and his opponent with Die Walkure (conceptual spatial manip) to make all attacks and power are trapped inside the infinite distance and never being able to reach him, further more he can erases the distance between his attacks and his opponent, making them alway instantly hit the opponents.
Well... unfortunately we don't allow time preput after a while, I realized this is obviously preptime-based so maybe it's not that usable in debates, eh
Yes, but the thing is, Uriel's passive need the infinite range to reach Odin, otherwise it would lost to the conceptual infinite distance between Uriel and Odin.I can't be sure if this is going to work on haxes other than projectile-like ones. Since technically it creates an infinite ''distance/space'' between him and the opponent which is why it would take basically an infinite amount of time for attacks with finite speed to hit him, which I believe is not the case here as passive, especially ones that are caused by the very nature/presence of the user isn't technically spatial-relevant. I can't think of another word to describe it but let's say that ''space'' between Odin and Uriel isn't physical space, what I mean here is it would only work as you said if the distance between them is literally a High-3A Space when the fight begins.
Nah, I'm fine with an Incon. As myself find the my argument isnt exactly potent nor usable, so yeah.I think a match should be made the debate is pretty long already
Monkey Steal Peaches was the crushing of the family jewels.Goes through upgrades. [Ball Kicking] ---> [No More Descendants] --> [True Origins Crushing Kick]
You really should. The author must have been on drugs.
Ok I also think there is no need for debate anymore since we've come to an agreement.Nah, I'm fine with an Incon. As myself find the my argument isnt exactly potent nor usable, so yeah.
IIRC Sailor Moon's thing was really strong power null, but no idea if it's effective here.What spot would Uriel get then, I can already see him pretty much counter anything Sailor Moon Holy Power(her 3C key) has. While he can just ee her on 3 basic levels of existence(material/body-astral/consciousness-spiritual/soul) with normal punches
She also has EE on 3 planes same as every high-ranked angel/demon in Bastard!! And that would get countered very hard considering how they could not kill each other easily as they have find ways to bypass Eternal Atoms regeneration which is covered by dispel bounds resistances and stuff... Dark Schneider(Majin) basically one-shotted a devil at that level with a normal punch while his Judas Priest which is an attack that was made specifically to annihilate Eternal Atoms got resisted by Uriel.IIRC Sailor Moon's thing was really strong power null, but no idea if it's effective here.