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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)
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ji ning, ergenverse. qi qi has time travel as well
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time travel doesn`t work on qi qi universe. Going back in time to kill her won`t work against her
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Is that a verse specific thing or? Beside, what's her answer to still getting blitz?
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It's a verse specific thing
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If that's the case then wouldn't every Dragonball character is immune to having their history change due to how their time travel work?
Also does she have passive?
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Yeah, I don't think the restrictions on time travel of her work should influence other works.
As for passives: Future versions of QiQi, from a future where present QiQi won due to the intervention of those very same future versions, can appear to safe QiQi from being defeated. (I.e. a bootstrap paradox power)
This is difficult to beat, because QiQi is an extraordinary genius and the future versions have essentially infinite prep and prior knowledge to make use of her intelligence.
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Does this need a chance for a possibility of her winning to exist for her future selves to intervene? Because Tendou always start with Hyper Clock Up in this form.
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Spectre from dc should be number 1 for 2-a coz he has 1-a hax
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Wrong thread, this is the nonsmurf one
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Well, yes and no.
If she can't win even with the future selves, then they can't appear (because that would be a paradox). However, if she can win with the future selves the future selves can appear. Whether or not she can win without the future selves has no influence on their appearance, though.
So, for all intents and purposes, you just have to consider the case where they do appear.
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Ichigo Kurosaki for High 4-C - has your standard Bleach goonery such as passive Soul and Mind Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement and Fear Manipulation through Reiatsu, while using Horn of Salvation he's capable of releasing Hollow reiryoku which induces Corruption (Type 2), Poison Manipulation, Statistic Reduction and eventually Death Manipulation to those who don't have anti-bodies against Hollows, as a soul Ichigo's invulnerable to damage and abilities which can't effect those on an astral level, and is invisible to those who can't see souls.
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This is what happens when you let Deceived goon for too long unchecked
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Grilled Cheese Obama SandwichThis is what happens when you let Deceived goon for too long unchecked
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Profile without scans + references + bad justifications. He can't take a spot
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Still better than any Mashle profile
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"passive"
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Cope with the fact that this bitch has a better profile than your mcStill better than any Mashle profile
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"P A S S I V E"
Kind of like Ainz's despair auras being said to be "passive" when he doesn't have them on 90% of the time lol
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How layered is Kishin Asura's Madness Manipulation?
I'm wondering if Trafalgar Law could gain a placement in 6-C or not.
I'm wondering if Trafalgar Law could gain a placement in 6-C or not.
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Probably not too too layered(it is layered for sure tho), but the issue is Law can get killed by mortal means and Kishin can zerg if he REALLY wants to
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What exactly is Kishin's counter to Law's spatial displacement incapping him?
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I don't believe it's layered by much, at most I think it could be above people like Medusa's, so prob just 2 layers. But yeah like reaperman said, the issue is Law not being able to kill him and that he'd just come back
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BFR himself and try again after he comes back
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I don't see how that would negate the spatial displacement, unless it causes disconnect body parts to reconnect?
I believe Law's Madness Manipulation resistance while in his 6-C key is around 2/3 layers, i'll have to ask KT for an exact number though. Also Law not being able to kill Kishin wouldn't matter since Law's win-cons aren't based around killing, but rather incapping with Spatial Manipulation which doesn't damage or harm the affected target.
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Oh like that, uh, yeah, Kishin has thought-based ranged options like TK and gravity manipulation that make him not technically incapped
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Almost sure that Law just upscales above baseline resistance
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Can he manipulate both to that level of precision? since the evidence for his Gravity Manipulation only shows it being capable of applying pressure onto targets, not actually manipulate their physical movements or anything like that, or are you saying that since they're thought-based, and he can use them while his body is spatially displaced, he wouldn't be considered as "incapped" rule-wise since he's still capable of fighting back?.
Also Law could possibly negate that with Mes's Power Nullification but i'm not entirely sure rn.
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Yeah basically, since it's thought-based he'd still be capable of fighting back
That seems to be something closer to a power null on intangibility/regen going from the profile, not body control or just general powers based off of something that Law definitely doesn't deal with in his setting too much(souls)
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I'm pretty sure he has done it right away before, since he doesn't exactly have that many fights it's viable that he has a wincon and Law kind of doesn't really
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Alright.
Do those abilities require Kishin having line of sight with Law, or can he just think of a direction and the ability would activate facing that direction? Because if it's the former then Law could just decapitate and chuck his head far away from him, effectively negating the ability.
Yeah it does seem like it, I'll have to ask KT more in-depth about his power nullification then.
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Yup, I reread his fight a few minutes ago, he basically entered with illusion creation
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Seeing as none of his other powers need LoS uh, yeah, he doesn't need LoS.
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