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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)

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Ego said:
She doesn't resist all of Arceus hax and her range doesn't mean squat

Arceus range is disgusting
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really? you need to get close to her because getting up and personal isn't her way of fighting as she sends infinite soldiers to Arceus and Arceus need to get pass that

And didn't Setsuna tell you that almost all of Arceus' hax isn't even 6D only CM type 1?
theultimate5105 said:
Arceus does have Resistence negation (so CM would work)
Also infinite range doesn’t really matter unless you can BFR the opponent (as running away means you lose)
Although I would not be suprised if I missed something which makes it an Incon anyways
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she have 6D HDE, unless his Resistance neg is 6D then it's not gonna happen
 
Ego said:
Where she get resistance to conceptual manipulation
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Resistance to Disease Manipulation (Gods don't get sick), Fear Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Death Manipulation (Beings on the level of the Six Kings can resist Isis's ability), Enhanced Senses, Information Manipulation, Heat Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Status Effect Inducement, Empathic Manipulation, Time Stop, Illusion Creation, Poison Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Corrosion Inducement, Biological Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Fate Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Life Manipulation, Earth Manipulation, Precognition, Paralysis Inducement, Body Puppetry, Darkness Manipulation, BFR, Sound Manipulation, Telekinesis, Void Manipulation, Reality Warping, Deconstruction, Law Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Black Hole Creation, Sealing, Plot Manipulation and Power Nullification (Has the same resistances as Shallow Vernal. Additionally God level battles always turn into fist fights despite all their abilities)
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Nicetoderp said:
Massive RPL from Ark-Zero, able to blitz someone that outspeed himself within seconds.
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The answers are Stat Amps, Massively boosting reaction speed, Teleportation, automatically phasing into another dimension, more stat amps and winning with what is essentially a though
 
theultimate5105 said:
The answers are Stat Amps, Massively boosting reaction speed, Teleportation, automatically phasing into another dimension, more stat amps and winning with what is essentially a though
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Then Ark RPL through stat amp along with immortalities including Type 9. It take around 20 seconds or so for average Zero-One Rider to adapt to 50x stat diff so Ark should close that gap within second max.
 
Nicetoderp said:
Then Ark RPL through stat amp along with immortalities including Type 9. It take around 20 seconds or so for average Zero-One Rider to adapt to 50x stat diff so Ark should close that gap within second max.
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That is too long
They get hit with Genjutsu (layered mindhax), BFR (to a sealed off dimension), TSBs (Powernull, EE, Matter Manip and Deconstruction) or Sealing
To beat them you also need to bypass Kamui (which is uninteractable to people who can hit stuff in other dimensions), TSB shields, Regeneration and a bunch of other stuff
 
UIU File 2014-014 for a spot in 9-B
It has abstract existence type 1 (based on type 1 Conceptual shadows), Conceptual manipulation type 1, Power null, Air manipulation,.. (based on its conceptual manipulation type 1, by devouring these concepts)
 
theultimate5105 said:
They get hit with Genjutsu (layered mindhax), BFR (to a sealed off dimension), TSBs (Powernull, EE, Matter Manip and Deconstruction) or Sealing
To beat them you also need to bypass Kamui (which is uninteractable to people who can hit stuff in other dimensions), TSB shields, Regeneration and a bunch of other stuff
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Type 9 immortal, he just goes into another body, eventually he'll just pull a Guy and make it so that they can't hit him the same time as they try to pull him in. Ark also doesn't have a mind, he's a robot.

Ark also have his own speed amp as well so they still get blitz and basically Ark dodge through their everything due to his precog.

And the 20 seconds was middle of the series. Top tier RPL in Z1 can effectively RPL reverse blitzing someone in the midst of opponent's blitzing them.

Unless the regen is High-Low, every Kamen Rider can deal with it through their explosion manip alone, his poison deconstruct on molecular level and can be fine-tuned in order to break through opponents' resistance.
Zencha9 said:
i still think yubel could beat saber at least when speed is unequal
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Type 1 concept hax make new power or straight up make him immune to their abilities.
 
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Tatsumi504 said:
I agree with him here. You can't just slap on all resistances because their fights always turn into fist fights. It needs evidence, i mean i literally see resistance to enhanced senses, thread manipulation there.
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her resistance backscale from her, you can see the justification further, although the enhanced sense and thread manipulation resistance do look sus
 
Setsuna_tenma said:
2nd for now until someone makes a match with nasuverse
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He should technically not be on the list since I was planning a match with Nasuverse once their revision is done. Although right now, it seems like he might be upgraded to 1-A and above before then LMAO.
 
Tatsumi504 said:
If she has 6D HDE doesn't that mean none of arceus stuff can affect her at all except CM which she resists i think
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Well, no. If arceus' existance is 6D, then he can just punch to affect her, unless she is some abstract thing and arceus dont have any NPI to that abstract
 
Should be a scan on Shiro's profile for the fist fight stuff, oversight from when the profiles split probably. Her resistances should probably also get expanded upon too with the reasoning why she scales to Shiro having scans, Makina/Eden=Shiro minus Epilogue.

Enhanced senses come from scaling to Shiro, whose emotions can't be sensed, thread manipulation should be removed yea.

Stuff to fix later on when i focus on isekai at peace again, or another verse supporter can do it, since that won't be for a while.
 
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Fixxed said:
I dont say harming. I say she can get affect or interact if arceus is in same existance, so HDE is useless
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It's not useless in terms of hax. Arceus has basically zero 6D hax except CM thus with 6D HDE she's immune to all his stuff except CM.
The reverse unfortunately doesn't apply as she apparently has layered 6D hax while I'm not even sure Arceus has any 6D resistances
 
Tatsumi504 said:
It's not useless in terms of hax. Arceus has basically zero 6D hax except CM thus with 6D HDE she's immune to all his stuff except CM.
The reverse unfortunately doesn't apply as she apparently has layered 6D hax while I'm not even sure Arceus has any 6D resistances
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HDE just make character immune lower dimensional ability or interaction. Is not make it immune interaction from same level of existance. If arceus is in same level of existance as her HDE then arceus can interact with her like normal people interact with other
 
Fixxed said:
HDE just make character immune lower dimensional ability or interaction. Is not make it immune interaction from same level of existance. If arceus is in same level of existance as her HDE then arceus can interact with her like normal people interact with other
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Yeah it can interact with her but still can't do anything to even harm her. AP eise makina>>>>>>>>>Arceus
 
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Tatsumi504 said:
Yeah it can interact with her but still can't do anything to even harm her. SP eise makina>>>>>>>>>Arceus
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Nonexistent Physiology Type 2 and temporal omnipresence that's better than infinite speed avatars.
 
Kamen Rider Zero-Two for 10th place High 6-A

The Beast has no answer to Zero-Two's quantum superpositioning that just brings Aruto back to life via choosing a probability where he doesn't die. He can use the same system to choose a probability where he defeats The Beast.

Kamen Rider Kabuto for 1st place Low 5-B

Kabuto uses Hyper Clock Up to go back in time and kill Rei.
 
Sir_Ovens said:
Kamen Rider Zero-Two for 10th place High 6-A

The Beast has no answer to Zero-Two's quantum superpositioning that just brings Aruto back to life via choosing a probability where he doesn't die. He can use the same system to choose a probability where he defeats The Beast.
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Second this, unless Beast has passive.


Sir_Ovens said:
Kamen Rider Kabuto for 1st place Low 5-B

Kabuto uses Hyper Clock Up to go back in time and kill Rei.
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Rei has her passive so Kabuto won't be able to used his Hyper Clock Up in time
 
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