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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)

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Oh, speed is unequalized for these threads? Then yeah, the Sorrow can't do much before getting beaten down and passively haxxed to death. Would the Touhou characters need to beat the two other spots above them first, though?
speed is equalized, but you can take a spot of with unequalized speed mntion next to the placement
 
No, it's not an opinion, regardless if Fiamma's AP scales to H1C (which i tried to revise in the past, didn't go through) it's a fact that IB is inside of Fiamma for as long as LPSaD lasts and is amplifying/purifying his power, this part is not an opinion at all and is already enough to not let him be in the list.
LPSaD makes no use of IBs power (and can't), though, and neither does it amp it to the level of IB.
So it's basically taking a Tier 1 thing and incorporating it in a way that is in no way tier 1
 
LPSaD makes no use of IBs power (and can't), though, and neither does it amp it to the level of IB.
So it's basically taking a Tier 1 thing and incorporating it in a way that is in no way tier 1
It doesn't matter if he doesn't use it, it's literally inside of him, that's smurf.
 
It doesn't matter if he doesn't use it, it's literally inside of him, that's smurf.
It's not an ability he has though
Yeah, as Tatsumi said, it is not that he does not use it. LPSAD Fiamma can not use it. As far as we know he is physically incapable of employing IB negation power after absorbing it.
 
Even though his profile is currently super ass, Prime Soul King for a placement at Low 2-C.

He should absolutely beat White Face and Saint Seiya's Low 2-C but i'll argue for him beating them after i clean up his profile.
 
Yeah, as Tatsumi said, it is not that he does not use it. LPSAD Fiamma can not use it. As far as we know he is physically incapable of employing IB negation power after absorbing it.
First, you're saying he can't use it based on what exactly? IB can be used by anyone, Fiamma is no exception.

Second, it doesn't matter at all, having a H1C power source, regardless if you scale to it or not, is smurf.
 
What's he got going for them?

He's got a plethora of broken abilities, but i'll focus on a select few right now.

Passive 4-D Power Nullification/Reactive Evolution and Information Analysis which allows him to "understand" everything he sees in the infinite amount of futures he can peer through, and every ability he "understands" in those futures "turn" to his side, being unable to even harm him, much less kill him. It's a form of unconventional Power Nullification/Reactive Evolution since he isn't actually nullifying the abilities themselves, he's just making them "take his side", which inturn causes them to become incapable of doing anything to him. This level of Power Nullification/Reactive Evolution can even affect Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) and Breaking the Fourth Wall.

Though-Based 4-D (2-A) Fate Manipulation which allows Soul King to manipulate, effect and interact with an infinite amount of futures simultaneously, doing things like making all his attacks, regardless of the "physical" barriers, hit their target, teleport vast distances instantly, break objects or powers in those infinite futures, making them become useless in the present, continuously resurrect after being killed through rewriting those infinite futures, and even absorb the powers of others. For more context read Yhwach's "The Almighty" tabber since these hax's come from The Almighty. Also in the future this Fate Manipulation would work against Type 4 acausals.

4-D Absorption which allows him to absorb physical beings, powers, be them physical, spiritual or conceptual in nature, and the soul and mind of his opponents as well.

He also has things like Thought-Based Reality Warping and Subjective Realty which allows him induce physical, spiritual and mental death on others, interact with beings constructed of pure fundamental information, while also having the capabilities to create, and manipulate structures of fundamental information. He can erase beings on an more fundamental level then Lee's able to erase himself (which he's capable of erasing his physical, spiritual, mental and fundamental existences with "The Vanishing Point")

If you wish to understand what abilities the Soul King will have on his profile after this future revision, please check out Yhwach's Almighty and Soul King Absorbed Tabbers, Gerard Valkyrie, Gremmy Thoumeaux, Mimihagi, Pernida Parnkgjas and Aura Michibane profiles (Aura's and Mimihagi's profiles however are out of date, and missing quite a few abilities)

Also make sure to check out the Soul, Quincy and Fullbringer Physiology blogs as he has those abilities as well.
 
He's got a plethora of broken abilities, but i'll focus on a select few right now.

Passive 4-D Power Nullification/Reactive Evolution and Information Analysis which allows him to "understand" everything he sees in the infinite amount of futures he can peer through, and every ability he "understands" in those futures "turn" to his side, being unable to even harm him, much less kill him. It's a form of unconventional Power Nullification/Reactive Evolution since he isn't actually nullifying the abilities themselves, he's just making them "take his side", which inturn causes them to become incapable of doing anything to him. This level of Power Nullification/Reactive Evolution can even affect Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2) and Breaking the Fourth Wall.

Though-Based 4-D (2-A) Fate Manipulation which allows Soul King to manipulate, effect and interact with an infinite amount of futures simultaneously, doing things like making all his attacks, regardless of the "physical" barriers, hit their target, teleport vast distances instantly, break objects or powers in those infinite futures, making them become useless in the present, continuously resurrect after being killed through rewriting those infinite futures, and even absorb the powers of others. For more context read Yhwach's "The Almighty" tabber since these hax's come from The Almighty. Also in the future this Fate Manipulation would work against Type 4 acausals.

4-D Absorption which allows him to absorb physical beings, powers, be them physical, spiritual or conceptual in nature, and the soul and mind of his opponents as well.

He also has things like Thought-Based Reality Warping and Subjective Realty which allows him induce physical, spiritual and mental death on others, interact with beings constructed of pure fundamental information, while also having the capabilities to create, and manipulate structures of fundamental information. He can erase beings on an more fundamental level then Lee's able to erase himself (which he's capable of erasing his physical, spiritual, mental and fundamental existences with "The Vanishing Point")

If you wish to understand what abilities the Soul King will have on his profile after this future revision, please check out Yhwach's Almighty and Soul King Absorbed Tabbers, Gerard Valkyrie, Gremmy Thoumeaux, Mimihagi, Pernida Parnkgjas and Aura Michibane profiles (Aura's and Mimihagi's profiles however are out of date, and missing quite a few abilities)

Also make sure to check out the Soul, Quincy and Fullbringer Physiology blogs as he has those abilities as well.
is the power nullification alsoe based around seeing and changing the "future" stuff?

Also how much of that stuff is reliant on Spiritual energy or whatever the UES in the verse?
 
is the power nullification alsoe based around seeing and changing the "future" stuff?

Also how much of that stuff is reliant on Spiritual energy or whatever the UES in the verse?
Cliff-notes version I believe PSK is essentially composite Bleachverse so a good chuck of his hax is reliant on the UES however not all of it. Bottom line is, unless you have characters that are explicitly soulless (and even that probably won't save you tbh) or have broken NEP/TD, there's a very good chance they just auto lose and that's not factoring the above mentioned P&A @Deceived3596 has already posted.

Sheesh remember when the best stuff HST could pull off was genjutsu GG?
 
How many layers of 4D Soul resistance is needed to resist a large chunk of bleach verse stuff?

Also i asked the UES stuff because of the passive Power drain Saint Seiya Gods have + Passive infinite heat from the getgo lol. Also they have acausality.

does the power null work on things innate to the physiology of a character that isn't supernatural in nature?
 
How many layers of 4D Soul resistance is needed to resist a large chunk of bleach verse stuff?
Either baseline 4-D or not even 4-D to resist soul hax
Also i asked the UES stuff because of the passive Power drain Saint Seiya Gods have + Passive infinite heat from the getgo lol. Also they have acausality.

does the power null work on things innate to the physiology of a character that isn't supernatural in nature?
Powernull and fate hax are both based on precog
 
True form Arceus is a Omnipresent Type 1 Abstract Existence of a Type 1 Concept that has Type 2 Nonexistent Physiology and is Beyond-Dimensional Type 2, and has 6D Conceptual Manipulation.

Knives doesn't seem to be able to have th events to deal with that metaphysical mishmash and while Makina can mess with Type 1 Concepts I'm not sure how she deals with the rest.
 
Hol up now...why does Pokémon get higher than Shulk at 2-B but lower than Shulk at 2-A?
 
Hol up now...why does Pokémon get higher than Shulk at 2-B but lower than Shulk at 2-A?
Because in 2-B the CT/LT mons are too big to be affected by Shulk who lacks the range to do anything while in 2-A Shulk actually has the range to affect and incap the CT/LT mons.
 
It wasn't too long ago when Wizard101 characters (E.g Grandfather Spider), were beating the likes of Arceus, my have times changed.

Question are they 5-D or 6-D? (Hax is self-explanatory ofc).
It still would be if not for the upgrade to 6D the OS got

5D, which is why I put them at the bottom of the list
 
Is there any way to exclude categories when doing a category search I am trying to find candidates for low 4-C?
 
yang qi should be higher in Low 1C.
What spot do you think he should have?
Also Sage Monarch is being updated so I think waiting is best. Regarding what is currently accepted, his second key scales above a structure of infinite^93 times baseline 6-D, the third key is an inaccessible higher realm of existence and is acausal 5 compared to 6-D
 
What spot do you think he should have?
Also Sage Monarch is being updated so I think waiting is best. Regarding what is currently accepted, his second key scales above a structure of infinite^93 times baseline 6-D, the third key is an inaccessible higher realm of existence and is acausal 5 compared to 6-D
2nd for now until someone makes a match with nasuverse
 
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