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They can't be incap'd? How many layers of power null? CM is resisted.Mid-godly regen with immortality 3, 4 & 8 + a ton of power null and CM
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They can't be incap'd? How many layers of power null? CM is resisted.Mid-godly regen with immortality 3, 4 & 8 + a ton of power null and CM
PassivesShouldn't Fu be beyond cdz characters? I took a look at cdz's 2-A character profile, and I don't see any cdz character being more powerful than fu.
Fu as far as I know has several passives as well, layered null power being her forte. and I don't see any cdz characters in 2-A resisting that. Besides, fu has Immeasurable speed, that is, passives will not work here.Passives
I also think that other dbh characters should be above, since having Immeasurable speed they are not affected by the passives of cdz characters. And they have more hax.Fu as far as I know has several passives as well, layered null power being her forte. and I don't see any cdz characters in 2-A resisting that. Besides, fu has Immeasurable speed, that is, passives will not work here.
Not like my opinion has much wait but i don't believe simply receiving guidance from a higher being counts as smurf unless that higher being is using smurf precog to help you overcome most stuffFrom dnd, the only ones to be kicked out from this would be the Drinker.
Edit: Though Weekly argued it would be outside help, and Tatsumi said it's usable, so I don't know
CDZ?Shouldn't Fu be beyond cdz characters? I took a look at cdz's 2-A character profile, and I don't see any cdz character being more powerful than fu.
Well, to be fair, a situation did arose during the Hunter vs Drinker debate. One of Weekly's arguments was that by virtue of his rewind ability, the Hunter would be able to know what to do to avoid the Drinker's abilities. However, Vecna by his very nature (being acasual and all) would resist and be interested to learn more of the Hunter's abilities (as that what his main passion is, gaining knowledge to boost his own power), and would then be able to tell the creature what to do now.Not like my opinion has much wait but i don't believe simply receiving guidance from a higher being counts as smurf unless that higher being is using smurf precog to help you overcome most stuff
Don't know, be able to gain knowledge and be directly guided by a higher dimensional being with basically omniscience (and precognition mind you) sound quite smurf.Not like my opinion has much wait but i don't believe simply receiving guidance from a higher being counts as smurf unless that higher being is using smurf precog to help you overcome most stuff
Create a thread then, gooberHe has visual-based madness manip with a few of his weapons as well as his ability to turn into a Kin, which gives passive type 2 and 3 madness manip
Wouldnt work going by the Drinker thread, the Hunter can go on just fine without a soul due to their ability to turn into a Keeper of the Old Lords and back to human without any issue
Gonn be throwing together a quick CRT to add some o the missing Hunter stuff later today
It's not stated to use any ability to do it, to be fair.(and precognition mind you)
Doesn’t @Deceived3596 call you all goobers too?Create a thread then, goober
It's also not stated to not use the precognition that can easily use to accomplish his desire.It's not stated to use any ability to do it, to be fair.
Oof, smurf right there. Retaining knowledge that should have been lost after a rewind based on smurf Acausality definitely counts as smurfWell, to be fair, a situation did arose during the Hunter vs Drinker debate. One of Weekly's arguments was that by virtue of his rewind ability, the Hunter would be able to know what to do to avoid the Drinker's abilities. However, Vecna by his very nature (being acasual and all) would resist and be interested to learn more of the Hunter's abilities (as that what his main passion is, gaining knowledge to boost his own power), and would then be able to tell the creature what to do now.
Definitely smurfDon't know, be able to gain knowledge and be directly guided by a higher dimensional being with basically omniscience (and precognition mind you) sound quite smurf.
For dnd, clear ruling like that is a must. The reason it's not stated is, essentially, "up to the DM what Vecna's involvement is".It's also not stated to not use the precognition that can easily use to accomplish his desire.
Which certainly make quite possible in a neutral setting of vs wiki that he use it, let say 50-50%, but even if it was something like a less than 0.1% possibility it would still smurf enough to disqualify.For dnd, clear ruling like that is a must. The reason it's not stated is, essentially, "up to the DM what Vecna's involvement is".
Using what the sources tell us, we can at least approximate what's the natural involvement. But yeah, given the situation brought up with the Hunter, I can see how it would count as smurf.Which certainly make quite possible in a neutral setting of vs wiki that he use it, let say 50-50%, but even if it was something like a less than 0.1% possibility it would still smurf enough to disqualify.
I'll come back to this once I got a momentFu as far as I know has several passives as well, layered null power being her forte. and I don't see any cdz characters in 2-A resisting that. Besides, fu has Immeasurable speed, that is, passives will not work here.
He does, it is even in his profile in the second key, but it's worded differently because me and Planck hadn't noticed it was the same thing.Nvm, I misread it, mb. He doesn't have conceptual lock in this key, he has it in his High 6-A key.
Not that it matters, he can just continue destroying the hunter's soul.
Saint seyaCDZ?
Everything is fine.I'll come back to this once I got a moment
Cavaleiros do Zodíaco, portuguese name of saint seiya.CDZ?
Yes.Cavaleiros do Zodíaco, portuguese name of saint seiya.
Just to note, in spanish is Caballeros del Zodíaco do to how close both languages are so CDZ can also mean the spanish name of the series.Cavaleiros do Zodíaco, portuguese name of saint seiya.
Henry vs hunter was already done, Hunter wonThe wanking of Hunter, as mentioned before his time rewind can't fo anything against conceptual haxs (so he also can't do shit against Owari characters), and die for all eternity isn't really an inco and more a eternal lose (is also an agreed rule in the thread that a stonewall who can't defeat characters and only get incon don't get spots, so he wouldn't even share place with the first guys).
However regarding the D&D guys, if on top of their immortality that is already quite at the line of what qualify as smurf they also get knowledge from a higher d being then that definitely is smurf, it would fall in the rule that not matter how small or useless something is as long is higher d the character is out, that also in their case wouldn't even be something small based on Lephyr words.
So the D&D side should be kicked out and Hunter go to third spot (since trying to debate something like Henry vs Hunter would be too tiring and time consuming).
About Danny, the reason of why was above Junko is because ghost powers also have supernatural effect on machines and data which could **** Junko, along with his strong will and ability to return to reality.
I will once 8-A is sorted outCreate a thread then, goober
It comes from being able to summon other Hunters from other universes, but it's being revised to interdimensionalWhere does the Hunter's Multiversal Range come from?
The Brazilian Portuguese opening is better, so i will ignore what you said. Portuguese > Spanish, Pelé > MaradonaJust to note, in spanish is Caballeros del Zodíaco do to how close both languages are so CDZ can also mean the spanish name of the series.
cdz opening is so amazing and nostalgic.The Brazilian Portuguese opening is better, so i will ignore what you said. Portuguese > Spanish, Pelé > Maradona
Jokes aside, didn't know that, that's cool.
They should probably share it with speed equal vs speed unequalFu as far as I know has several passives as well, layered null power being her forte. and I don't see any cdz characters in 2-A resisting that. Besides, fu has Immeasurable speed, that is, passives will not work here.
Fu in his final key probably has infinite energy, so I don't know if the energy drain would be useful here. Only if you have some talent. Mind manipulation I don't think it would be enough as fu resists layered 4D mental hax from what I remember. Fu also resists manipulation of matter on a macro-quantum level. He also resists and manipulation of the soul. Well, but actually it doesn't matter that much, because how would cdz characters deal with passive null power, or passive dimensional mastery? Because even if we apply the equalized speed, how would the passives look? As far as I know immeasurable speed passives are better. I could be wrong about that, but I don't think so. So Fu would just passively nullify everything, and your dd would just wipe it out.They should probably try it with equal speed vs unequal speed.
All his hax scale to users Cosmo level so his heat therapy is 2-A heat lol
Your ability to drain UES energies to 0 passively scales to your level in the cosmos.
2-Manipulation of the mind etc.
The entire UES relationship with your skills.
Passive Matter and Soul Manipulation
Passive power drain, life manipulation that causes all stats including stamina to be reduced to nothing and leads to unconsciousness and then quick death
passive mind hax
Passive Sense and Perception Removal
Just to name a few.
Mano, calmou né, português é bom mas aí tu tá se passandoFu em sua chave final provavelmente tem energia infinita, então não sei se o dreno de energia seria útil aqui. Só se você tiver algum talento. Manipulação da mente Eu não acho que seria suficiente, pois fu resiste ao hax mental 4D em camadas do que eu me lembro. Fu também resiste à manipulação da matéria em um nível macroquântico. Ele também resiste e manipulação da alma. Bem, mas na verdade isso não importa tanto, porque como os personagens cdz lidariam com o poder nulo passivo, ou com o domínio dimensional passivo? Porque mesmo se aplicarmos a velocidade equalizada, como ficariam os passivos? Até onde eu sei, os passivos de velocidade imensurável são melhores. Posso estar errado sobre isso, mas acho que não. Então Fu simplesmente anularia tudo passivamente, e seu dd acabaria com tudo.
I just edited it , I didn't realize that Google translator accidentally changed everything!Mano, calmou né, português é bom mas aí tu tá se passando
Bah, já me aconteceu tbm.I just edited it , I didn't realize that Google translator accidentally changed everything!