AFAIK no, as the one with 6-D stuff can still netically beat more characters (unless it was haxless or similar), things aren't as simple as who beats who, otherwise we'd end up with cases like a haxless guy being higher than a certain infamous smurf.
Just to add onto this, in my opinion the 5D dude should only take 6D dude's spot IF he beats everyone below 6D dude also or any other contenders if 6D dude is 10th place. Simply beating 6D dude because he has a certain weakness or doesn't have one specific resistance shouldn't make or break them. If they beat everyone below then yeah they should take the spot but if they beat 6D dude only because they just so happen to exploit one vulnerability then nah.
its just that for Low 1-C the wizard101 creator wins against the devourer due to the amount of passives the devourer doesn't resist even though the devourer has 6D AP
Is he 6-D himself? If not, wouldn’t a 5-D character with 6-D abilities still count as a smurf even if both dimensions are in the same tier?
Also, discussion for Artpe and Maetel to be at #1 is warranted, looking at their profiles.
He was supposed to lose his first 3 keys because there are already enough feats to just make him solidly Low 2-C
i mean id assume thats something we can just do now if its already been agreed upon
No, the opposite. His 3rd key actually has 8-A physical stats, but not 8-A AP.
Ah, right. He has 8-A durability with Low 7-C AP.
Then she should be above at least Akane for that
Can they beat the others above them?
I mean, I began by saying that Puella characters should just be removed from the list outright, but can try later to look if Arifureta characters can with other spots (although I'm not sure to do a match with the Index characters as last time I remember it was said that Kakine was going to be upgraded tier wise and other time when it was said that they are very outdated).
Yeah, if PMMM characters are outdated they need to be removed.
I was actually thinking the other way around because from previous discussion I got that Kakine need planetary range to be defeated and the 6-C characters don't get that until later keys
Freaky but that'll be incon at worse.
Depends on what you mean by being supernatural.
By supernatural, what I mean is something that isn't natural in the real world, like maybe broken social influencing and or any kind of luck that messes with the world, ghosts, spirit frameworks, soul monsters, living possibilities, basically something like that. So Terushashi would qualify, what about Mamoru?
If you measure by real world standards, instead of in-universe standards, then everyone is supernatural, as even super-science would obviously fall under that. Like, no way you get into the Top 10 without having a superpower that a real-life animal can't have.
I would presume supernatural to the verse's standards, like what To Aru does with Imagine Breaker
Well, then I would argue that Teruhashi's social influencing for instance is not supernatural.
Teruhashi does have regen from Saiki's reality-warping and possible luck, Hinata's mind manipulation can be parts supernatural as well to her beauty, plus minor luck.
I could argue about how some characters on this list would still beat him, but honestly, it doesn't matter.
It might as well be an A beats B, B beats C, but A doesn't beat C, moment there, I did think he could contend for the strongest 3-D non-smurf as most characters here are in some way unnatural to his world with high range. So for now I think I would put him first maybe second but the circumstances of it can vary as you say. I can't create a matchup for him right now as the server is being integrated.
It makes no sense for him to be first. If you make him first then I say, idk, Kihara Ransuu, Yuna Williams, Marii Yukari, Sora and Artemis Fowl beat him and should be above him.
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I've skimmed through Reaper's profile and I don't really see anything that stops Talion from slowing down time and either teleporting and slicing Reaper's head off, snipping him from a distance with his arrows, which can induce things like freezing or fire, or teleporting and dominating Reaper's mind. I'm not knowledgeable on Overwatch, so I could be wrong. But I personally don't see anything on his profile that'll be much of a threat against Talion.Reaper (Overwatch)
Some speak of a black-robed terrorist known as the Reaper. His identity and motives are a mystery. What is known is that where he appears, death follows. The Reaper is a highly volatile mercenary, a ruthless and remorseless killer responsible for terrorist attacks worldwide. He has fought in...
Second key Reaper SEEMS to body him
In fact yeah I'm surprised I didn't try to get Reaper on sooner
Pretty sure Gooday can beat the ones you listed as they have some unnatural aspects to them that the Foundation could consider anomalous, but you are right on choosing a weak character with a favourable matchup, Gooday I don't think is one of them.
I mean does Talion open with Mind Manipulation? Cause if not Reaper has shotguns that can incap guys like 2 one-shots above 5 tons and an attack speed Amp so nuts that it turns Reaper's shots into afterimages and miniguns
No, all of them work completely by the laws of physics. Although I could also just literally list regular humans.
He doesn't have a "starting move" necessarily because of him being an RPG character, his main actions are the ones chosen by the players. But given his mental state during his transformation into a Ringwraith, he'll be more inclined to easier and darker methods of attacking or dispatching people. Which would include dominating their mind and using them as his puppets.
Huh...
Glaedr is on the 8-C list and 100% of the time mind attacks as his starting move btw.
