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I don't think it needs to affect the true form based on that? No?
Also, is it 4-D immortality to be a fundamental aspect of the universe?
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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation
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I don't think it needs to affect the true form based on that? No?
Also, is it 4-D immortality to be a fundamental aspect of the universe?
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Considering Necrodermis is metal I don't think that's a problem either.
See what Abaddon spoke on that above
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Completely metal or what?
Abaddon said they don't know if it is. Nobody answered.
Antimatter would get copied by Garou. Erasure from history is obviously a win-con for them. Life drain is uncertain. If it's instantaneous death it's also a win-con.
Garou could win via gamma ray burst or potentially using that antimatter against them.
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thats textbook
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yeah isnt that smurf????
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You know Necrons? Like at all? Reputation for being soulless emotionless robots? Yeah the stuff they're composed of is used here.
Literally read this.
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anyway i nominate this guy for 7th place High 4-C if its non smurf
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Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo (Character)
Bobobo-bo • Bo-bobo is the primary protagonist of the satirical action-adventure manga of the same name. Born in the Hair Kingdom with a father who is both a follicle of hair and a sword, he pursued training in the art of the Hanage Shinken, or True Fist of the Nosehair, in his early years...
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I know nothing about 40k.
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That wasn't a feel bad comment that was the start for a shit explanation lol
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Could Dark Lord (Miitopia) get an 8-C spot? Their main move is to take an opponent's face (which takes away their ability to see, speak, and smell) and put on one of the many monsters that they can create. They can also induce status effects such as forcing opponents into a nightmare, cause opponents to burst into laughter, burst into tears, make opponents angry, make opponents become greatly excited, make them distracted, cause them to cower in fear, puppet an opponent's body, turn opponents to stone, and manipulate a foes age making them turn into an old person.
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The C'tan themselves are based entirely on energy but the bodies that house them are necrodermis, so entirely metal with no living bits. Also they actively fly around the galaxy when released and literally eat stars, they should have enough of a resistance to at least stand around Garou.
There are other moves the Deceiver and Nightbringer could use to take down Garou, the Deceiver does have Type 2 Madness Manip and its one of its major moves and they've also shown they can basically just cause rapid cell death in a person and kill them nigh-instantly. Also as for the GRB, the C'tan have shown they can deflect energy attacks back at their opponents if they don't want to get hit.
Would it be better if I just make a thread for this?
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Making a thread and debating about it there will always be more beneficial than talking about it here.
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i nominate this guy for a spot in 4-A
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Death (The Endless Empty)
After a failed rockstar shoots itself in the brain, the imaginary world in its panicking subconscious forms Death as a personification of its incoming fate. Tier: Varies from 6-C to 5-A, possibly 4-A for weaker avatars, 4-A for stronger avatars, Low 2-C with dead zones Name: Death Origin: The...
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he has Low 2C stuff so noi nominate this guy for a spot in 4-A
Death (The Endless Empty)
After a failed rockstar shoots itself in the brain, the imaginary world in its panicking subconscious forms Death as a personification of its incoming fate. Tier: Varies from 6-C to 5-A, possibly 4-A for weaker avatars, 4-A for stronger avatars, Low 2-C with dead zones Name: Death Origin: The...
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oh shit
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can i qualify bob for High 4-C
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo (Character)
Bobobo-bo • Bo-bobo is the primary protagonist of the satirical action-adventure manga of the same name. Born in the Hair Kingdom with a father who is both a follicle of hair and a sword, he pursued training in the art of the Hanage Shinken, or True Fist of the Nosehair, in his early years...
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Unless these characters have a range beyond the normal diameter of the universe (Without being a smurf), their haxes cannot affect it.
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This list is for the strongest non-smurf characters. Characters such as Marble Alien that don't lose just because of their large size shouldn't be included in this list.
Even if a character added to the list, can defeat all characters except Marble Alien, it may not be able to defeat it due to large size and therefore can't rise in the list.
And this is complete nonsense. If there wasn't an empty spot on list, It wouldn't even be on the list because ıt can't beat any character in 3A.
(Even ıt stamina is unknown though so who can say that even if ıt attacks a character won't pass out from exhaustion after a few attacks.)
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sigh you don't get it, do you.
With it's Stats and size, the Marble Alien can beat the majority of 3-A, including Arishem, actually. Cause Arishem lacks the defense to handle it.
Oh look, the Marble Alien can beat something! but that's the thing, AP and sheer size only get you so far, if you lack hax and defense, you aren't gonna get to the top, if you're an incon machine, you aren't getting to the top. Najimi wrecks the Marble Alien on those fronts, so it isn't getting past her.
And this right here misunderstands how Unknown works as a rating, it means for matches, the characters' Stamina is put below the oppositions' Stamina by an Unknown degree, same applies to all stats labeled Unknown, actually.
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Doesn't matter. If you have no way to affect it, you quite literally have no way to affect it since it sees universes as the size of marbles.
At the very worst, the match ends in an inconclusive if it's fighting a ghost or some other incorporeal entity who can't affect the alien.
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Really great example!
I haven't seen many matches with characters whose stats are unknown before. So I really don't know how we handle.
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Yep, in fact I think that the Marble Alien should be higher than Arishem. The latter starts with paralyzing his opponents with TK that have Galactic LS, but there is two problems: first, he is able to use it only on things that are galactic in size, and second Marble Alien have Universal AP. Meanwhile, Marble Alien just slaps him with a far higher AP, range and everything, which is a easy gg.
And he have wincons against Arishem (as explained before) and Overclocked Bender, since he is "only" Universal in size, which makes him just a marble compared to him, aka something that he can easily destroy, throw away and such.
As explained by DaReaperMan, he shouldn't take higher position since he doesn't really have wincons against the other fours, making him a Incon sponge for them and nothing more. However, I don't see a reason to remove him entirely from the list since he does have wincons against the others placed lower than him.
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Imho, he should be. But I think a revision for that was made and rejected, though I can't remember the reasoning.
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Tbh I'm surprised anyone would attempt to revise/update a profile that's older than the majority of accounts here (including the ones pre-forum move).
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Most profiles are just as old tho
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Bayonetta was first made a profile in 2010, and people still revise her lol
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The marble arent confirmed to have independent spacetime
All those marbles and aliens could be as well just under single spacetime.
The thing just zooms out until marble alien is showed and in the process of zooming out there isn't a single implication from the transition that it zoomed out from a spacetime/timeline
All those marbles and aliens could be as well just under single spacetime.
The thing just zooms out until marble alien is showed and in the process of zooming out there isn't a single implication from the transition that it zoomed out from a spacetime/timeline
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We should just make the Marble Alien's profile extremely overreferenced
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I recall the transition to the Marble Alien happens right after the characters are talking about other universes being inside a marble, including their own, so it'd be heavily implied to be relating to multiple space-times, especially 4D applicable ones as it transitions out from the baseline reality of the setting.
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That would assume a lot of complicated things over a simple explanation.
One is that marble alien are 4D
2nd it assumes a 4D spatial plane exist to even make it possible.
3rd A Spatial 4D dimension exist on equivalence to a space time which puts a size to 4D spacetime in comparison to 4D plane which is a size of a marble.
5th if a size of a marble is 1 spacetime marble alien being probably 50 or more marble makes it high into 2-C
6th if a spacetime is only 4D then we gotta assume a larger spacetime that covers the plane where marble alien exist assuming a hypertimeline.
7th marble alien would have immeasurable lifting strength.
One is that marble alien are 4D
2nd it assumes a 4D spatial plane exist to even make it possible.
3rd A Spatial 4D dimension exist on equivalence to a space time which puts a size to 4D spacetime in comparison to 4D plane which is a size of a marble.
5th if a size of a marble is 1 spacetime marble alien being probably 50 or more marble makes it high into 2-C
6th if a spacetime is only 4D then we gotta assume a larger spacetime that covers the plane where marble alien exist assuming a hypertimeline.
7th marble alien would have immeasurable lifting strength.
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Which simple explanation? That the universes are all part of a single 4-D structure? That's quite assumptive with how our standards go, we generally deem universes as separate structures (aka, each one as a individual Low 2-C structure), add to that the fact that we do indeed default there being a 5-D space between universes for the sake of them being parallel to each other, and in total an argument for 2-C is more than reasonable.
And so all of those assumptions you claim are either already a default that'd require evidence to claim otherwise for a given case, or just results from the very premise applying at all, it's not like this is an outlier when the character in question doesn't have much else to speak of.
And so all of those assumptions you claim are either already a default that'd require evidence to claim otherwise for a given case, or just results from the very premise applying at all, it's not like this is an outlier when the character in question doesn't have much else to speak of.
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But the problem there is that the marbles are displaced just on a larger 4D space not 5D space.thats where the assumption differs unless you wanna argue the plane marble alien and the marbles are displaced in 5D.whichagain is another can of worms as they dont appear as such and only as larger 4D space.
Occam Razor as well applies unto this
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And y'all need to make the crt for it
Seriously, make the crt and discuss it there
Seriously, make the crt and discuss it there
Bobsican
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Citation needed, again, by default the space between universes is 5-D, not 4-D, IDK from what precedent you're even relying that claim with no proof on your part, and so Occam's Razor if anything goes on my favor.
Anyways, I'll just drop it here, I'm not into the verse and so won't be revising it directly.
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Went to sleep and forgot what i was arguing about but occams razor is about having more complicated elements and more assumptions so its definitely not on your favor
And no we don't default like that specially when it comes to visual interpretations
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For them to be parallel, they shouldn't ever be able to meet, so you'd need them to be displaced over 3-D space. Generalizing that to the 4-D case, spacetimes would obviously have to be displaced over a 5-D region (This works by definition, too: If they're different spacetime continuums then obviously they can't share the same space, in the way 3-D objects exist around us for instance)
Marble universe isn't parallel and they occupy spaces similar to how other 3D object occupy space around us. So your quotation is more or less against you.
This will be my last response.
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And no we don't default like that specially when it comes to visual interpretations
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For them to be parallel, they shouldn't ever be able to meet, so you'd need them to be displaced over 3-D space. Generalizing that to the 4-D case, spacetimes would obviously have to be displaced over a 5-D region (This works by definition, too: If they're different spacetime continuums then obviously they can't share the same space, in the way 3-D objects exist around us for instance)
Marble universe isn't parallel and they occupy spaces similar to how other 3D object occupy space around us. So your quotation is more or less against you.
This will be my last response.
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