The true self sustains/nourishes the avatars. 5D hax would ignore the avatar's plot armour and type 1 concept absorption and destruction would certainly kill it, at-least in Kratos' eyes before it reforms.
Does it reform immediately? And can the true form bring its avatar back from such destruction?
Does he even have hax Kratos doesn't resist in this key? Looked through the page, it doesn't have anything that Kratos doesn't either already resist or can just adapt to.
In the series, Gu Taxian's avatars vanish from the world whenever he reaches a crucial point in his fight against the Heavenly Dao. They're gone days, months and sometimes years since he can't spare a thought to them. In a versus match the Heavenly Dao doesn't exist. So he can focus on sustaining all he wants.
If Kratos has HGR negation and kills it with 5D hax, then no. If not then it wouldn't matter. Technically even with HGR negation, the avatar's Dao is the Dao of the true self.
Kratos doesn't resist info, data, and plot manipulation among other things. If he can adapt to them then its a complete stomp.
The true self that's 2-A?
Data Manipulation is pretty meaningless here. The Information Manipulation just looks to be him looking at other's information so I dunno how it'd be an issue here. Plot Manipulation seems like it could be an issue, what does it do here? I ask cause it seems to be tied to fate, which Kratos resists and can adapt to on a 5-dimensional level.
Yes.
The information manipulation is a net of information they create to manage their territory, which lets them read and manipulate information. Their other form of it is NPI which is destroying or absorbing information.
Plot armour for most and possibly direct manipulation by the avatar. They have regular fate manipulation, as in the future. Plot manipulation is a future that doesn't exist with metafictional context.
Acausals of the verse are still bound to it and affected by it. Even Gu Chensha's higher form of Acausal type 4 didn't work.
I'm looking at the scans and so far nothing shows he can just "info begone" his opponents.
If it's 4-D in scale then I dunno how it is stopping hax a whole dimensional level above it.
The Sisters of Fate can control Type 4 Acausals and create 5-dimensional timelines with their fate hax. The Spear of Destiny is of that power Kratos adapted to this power.Acausals of the verse are still bound to it and affected by it. Even Gu Chensha's higher form of Acausal type 4 didn't work.
The scans are management of their territory. Most of the scans in that page are meant for basic stuff to qualify, not everything they can do. For that key I would have added absorbing an empire's information, sucking dry information. Like I said, it is done through their NPI with information and being able to see it, with the ability to kill someone until nothing remains. I'll post more feat scans if needed for this key.
It won't. I've already said "5D hax would ignore the avatar's plot armour"
Which would let him ignore the avatar's regular fate manipulation, not the plot one. The latter doesn't rely on a future that exists, even at a 1-A scale.
Most of that doesn't really tell me how it directly affects the fundamental information of a being since it largely seems to involve standard information and knowledge.
Alright.
Alright then. What does the plot do in this scenario? Cause all the hax Kratos has would be above 4-D.
It doesn't really need to say fundamental if it is a person's information. Also being able to kill someone until nothing remains is in the context of the ability to see and interact with information. For example nothing remained of Gu Chensha as he turned into a Heavenly Dao type of being, and the information net I mentioned has another form which is a computer AI system that covers this dude's world and the only way he could track Gu Chensha Heavenly Dao was through an item Gu Chensha possesses.
Plot armour does nothing in this fight, it can turn danger into blessings but Kratos is firing off 5D hax. As for active plot manipulation rather than passive, like I said "possibly direct manipulation by the avatar". If not the avatar then the true self, for example the Heavenly Dao he is fighting created the story for his son (Gu Chensha) to be the villain the main character the Heavenly Dao created to defeat.
It does have to be specified. There's a bit of a difference in "now I know all about him" and "I've absorbed the fundamental components of his existence" and the scans on the page at least say more for the former than the latter.
Noted. I'm not sure if it's going to hold up to everything Kratos can do though.
Noted.
Maybe I should have given more context? Not my last response but the one before that, the first scan was Gu Chensha forcibly taking information, he isn't looking at it and what that information consists of I've already said. The second scan, this, is him sucking dry the information of someone, subsequently killing them and that information becoming his now. Maybe I should have posted about abstracts, like an AI that is the embodiment of knowledge, that Gu Chensha started munching on and became the embodiment of that entire scientific civilization.
I am guessing all of this is Low 1-C?
All of Kratos's powers have 5-D potency. Even his soul is a construct of magic that's 5-dimensional and a Type 1 concept.
He is in 5A btw, maybe should get remove too
her passive is possibly 7D, so no
I dont see any difference, she is Low 1-A and han soo was 5D
Yeah but I don't know if he even has 4-D hax.
the same reason for 5D
Aight, that seems fine.
Saiki also has 4D hax
Were the 2-A revisions added?
(Smurf hax doesn't work that way anymore)
God tiers, like the first angel and pedonar, uses some of the same powers that was given to the heroes. Chaos is effective against both light and darkness. The first hero can kill and affect gods comparable to Pedonar and Paramael (representing darkness and light ) While using the system powers and even was the reason to seal pedonar.
Yes, but due to the smurf hax revision, something simply just being higher D does not make it automatically more potent than lower D hax
Was that even accepted?
Ace has 4D hax, he was only below KHS due to his 5D hax.
Yes
and thats not enough reason to waste my time for nothing if you want start with ace vs ruphas
High 1-B durability is only in her second key. Not gonna comment on hax since idk which those are.
It's only forcefield hax that is High 1B for her
Law is rejected Creator can be killed by Creation an ability that cannot be escaped as long as someone is "Alive" or Existing
Her general hax is high 1-B due to it being the substance of a high 1-B dimension and her dura neg hax and other hax having worked on multiple high 1-B entities (Kosmos, a Celestial, and Hyperstorm).
She gets 6th spot. D only has 5D hax
