Time Slow vs Time Slow

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I wanted to do this for a while, like a week ago :v

Bayonetta vs Ren

Lets dance boy.


Base (Bayonetta 2)

Eine Faust Finale Ren

Speed equal if necesary

SBA otherwise

Ren Fuji Bayonetta

I hope this goes well...

 

[Archaron]

bayonetta does not have a greater destructive power? If it really is large star, what are the chances of fujii having any chance to dodge or avoid so much power?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

AFAIK Ren have low-godly regen and is passively slowing Bayo while he is accelerating time for himself.

 

[VoidGoji]

Ren's time accel + time slow is... Welp, unfair.

He can accel himself more than 3000 times, and slow anyone in range in proportion to his acceleration. In a nutshell: Ren accels himself by 3000 times while Bayo is slowed by the same amount.

 

[VoidGoji]

And, in this form, he always goes for the kill. Guillotine soul slice + conceptual damage + regen/immortality negation gg.

 

[Schnee_One]

Bayo resists his slow Tho

 

[VoidGoji]

Still a blitz due to his acceleration.

 

[Schnee_One]

She starts with slow that neatly stops her opponent and can possibly slow to a stop

 

[Archaron]

I'd rather bet my coins on bayonetta's destructive power than fujii's speed.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

@Gargoyle Ren's time slow is passive and is able to restrict his enemies movement to an extent to the point that they have been stopped to a near standstill, similar to Bayonetta.

@ Archaron I think that AP is a non factor here (that regen cover's conventional damage), but Bayonetta has some good hax with which she can defeat Ren

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Tony Problem is Bayo resists it

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I forgot about that

 

[Archaron]

If this version of bayonetta is really capable of reaching the atomic level (I'm not sure), I doubt the ren has a way of regenerating, it destroys the soul of ren and the physical body at atomic level, its he no way of defend or regenerating it.

 

[Rocker1189]

Sorry why does Bayonetta have resistance to time slow?

 

[Schnee_One]

She resisted from Jeanne

 

[Rocker1189]

She resisted from Jeanne

As in they were fighting each other? Or where they fighting together.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

She resisted jeanne time slow being used against her

 

[Rocker1189]

Oh ok.

 

[VoidGoji]

Ren time slow actually reaches time stop. He stopped Eleonore and Machina in his first time as EFF.

And he has soul-resistance, and actually resisted a bit of LLT's soul burning and mind erasure effects.

 

[VoidGoji]

And she isn't activating the time slow with Ren's accelertaion allowing him to blitz her from the start

 

[Schnee_One]

Because?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Just want to point out that the neck slice didn't work against two other people he couldn't break the skin of the necks of.

I've actually never seen anything implying that the neck slice itself ignores durability.

 

[VoidGoji]

Its because both Trifa and Reinhard have an absurd level of soul resistance, which forms the armor that blocked Ren's attacks. Its an spiriual weapon, after all.

 

[Rocker1189]

Just want to point out that the neck slice didn't work against two other people he couldn't break the skin of the necks of.
I've actually never seen anything implying that the neck slice itself ignores durability.

I mean I am no expert but dont both of these people pretty much have like 1-A levels of power behind them.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Yeah, but the point is that even after directly smacking their necks (several times in Trifa's case), it didn't break through, and so it couldn't insta-kill. Hell, even when it did manage to cut Reinhard's neck at the conclusion of... Marie's(?) route, it still didn't insta-kill him.

Bayo has her own absurb durabilty advantage, and soul resistance to boot, so I doubt it would work on her either.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I mean I am no expert but dont both of these people pretty much have like 1-A levels of power behind them.

In the particular instances to which I am referring to, no. They did not.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Votes

Bayo: 1 (Archaron) Ren: 0 Inconclusive: 0

Somebody else wanna vote?

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

I'm gonna Say Bayonetta, thanks to her time manip. resistance and the reasons already stated.

 

[ALRF]

Trifa and Reinhard doesn't get neck sliced because they have a barrier due to Isaac being the core of Gladsheirm

So no, Monarch, Ren can ignore durability

And Ren's time slow works on Eleonore who resisted his time slow (didn't get time slowed at first then he got over it instantly)

Ren's can most likely ignore hers with Time accel (gets stronger with each passing second)

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Hmmm,siding with Bayo FRA right now.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

ALRF. I would like you to prove that the neck slice ignores durability. Not that it kills instantly, or negates Regenerationn. Just that it ignores durability.

Show scans

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Both have soul and resistence however bayo notably is only with one weapon the rest won't do much to ren as he would regen. And yeah passive time accel which is faster accel than EFO with time slow that also worked on ppl who resist. Idk on this still though....

 

[Schnee_One]

Wait

Ren is FTL to FTL+ while Bayo is MFTL

Nvm then, if this is a speed Unequal fight I'm going with Bayo.

 

[Rocker1189]

It is base bayo which is only MHS+ the speed advantage is with ren.

 

[Schnee_One]

This is Bayo 2 base

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

"Speed equalised if necessary"

I'd say it's pretty necessary here

 

[Schnee_One]

Why?

FTL+ vs MFTL isn't blitz worthy, plentiful sure.

 

[Rocker1189]

This is Bayo 2 base

Oh... But with ren passive time slow (that has worked on people that have resisted apparently) and his speed up the speed difference would not matter at all I dont think.

 

[Schnee_One]

It really wouldn't no

 

[HST_Master]

Bayo FRA rn, not really knowledgeable on Masadaverse