Tiering 1-A characters

[Read_this_post]

Ok. Because in the discussion thread that upgraded thought robot it gave a scan for limbo having no time and stories never happening.

As for molecule man, i tend to avoid adding to many people who scale to someone on this list. I may add him when the ones listed are done.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Erm Oblivion and Beyonder are at least low 2-C. Embodying a 1-A realm is apparently equal to transcending one. And Luminous Being views 1-A realms as fiction which is > dimensional difference.

 

[Read_this_post]

I dont see how oblivion and beyonder are low 2-C. When have they embodied a 1-A realm?

 

[Lightbuster30]

Simce Beyonder os literally the embodiment of tbe Beyond Realm? Further Proven when he "fills" and becones "one" with it? Same with Oblivion. He embodies the realm of nonexistence. Not to mention being > beyonder anyways since his "strongest being in existence" claim doesn't apply to one who is beyond existence.

 

[Read_this_post]

Im not sure. I think on the wiki, some beings can be omnipresent and not even be high universal. I supposed possibly low 2-C is good for them.

 

[Continuum19]

Remember that to be high 1-A on this tiering system you have to be outerversal from the perspective of 1-A, not just transcend them. If this is what you mean then i will update it.

I'm curious, where is the evidence that Featherine transcends the vast majority of the Umineko hierarchy to the extent that she is 1-A from the perspective of a Umineko 1-A being?

Her profile just states that she transcends the hierarchy of Witches, it doesn't elaborate any further.

 

[Read_this_post]

She is one boundary away from reaching the level of the creator who is tier 0

 

[Continuum19]

She is one boundary away from reaching the level of the creator who is tier 0

Is that the sole reason? Because I heard that Beatrice was near her in terms of power. And Beatrice herself isn't High 1-A.

 

[First_Witch]

Adding to that @Read this post said, the Hierachy of Witches is an infinite layered construct, each layer trancending the lower one ad infintum. Featherine exists beyond that. Beatrice is by the way not on Featherines level, shes nearing it. Featherine is still hillariously above Beatrice.

 

[Read_this_post]

She was approaching featherines level of existence. But she wasnt quite there yet.

 

[Continuum19]

She was approaching featherines level of existence. But she wasnt quite there yet.

That's still a being who is close to Featherine in terms of power.

Kinda like how Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is Likely 1-A from being close to Pre-Retcon Beyonder in power.

 

[Read_this_post]

Beyonder and molecule man are both likely 1-A

 

[Continuum19]

Adding to that @Read this post said, the Hierachy of Witches is an infinite layered construct, each layer trancending the lower one ad infintum. Featherine exists beyond that. Beatrice is by the way not on Featherines level, shes nearing it. Featherine is still hillariously above Beatrice.

According to Read This Post transcending 1-A isn't enough justification for a High 1-A ranking, you have to be 1-A from a 1-A beings perspective.

Also, your second paragraph doesn't make any sense. Beatrice is near Featherine's power but Featherine is still far more powerful than Beatrice?

 

[First_Witch]

She was approaching featherines level of existence. But she wasnt quite there yet.

That's still a being who is close to Featherine in terms of power.
Kinda like how Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is Possibly 1-A from being close to Pre-Retcon Beyonder in power.

Again. Beatrice is NOT on Featherines level. In fact no one is, at least known to us, because Featherine is the only character who touched the last layer toward Creatorhood. Beatrice approaching Featherine means that she stepped into the same hierachy, prolly starting down at the bottom while Featherine touched the very last layer.

 

[Continuum19]

Beyonder and molecule man are both likely 1-A

Yes, my mistake.

 

[Continuum19]

That's still a being who is close to Featherine in terms of power.
Kinda like how Pre-Retcon Molecule Man is Possibly 1-A from being close to Pre-Retcon Beyonder in power.

Again. Beatrice is NOT on Featherines level. In fact no one is, at least known to us, because Featherine is the only character who touched the last layer toward Creatorhood. Beatrice approaching Featherine means that she stepped into the same hierachy, prolly starting down at the bottom while Featherine touched the very last layer.

That's still a little confusing, but I get what you mean.

 

[First_Witch]

According to Read This Post transcending 1-A isn't enough justification for a High 1-A ranking, you have to be 1-A from a 1-A beings perspective.

Also, your second paragraph doesn't make any sense. Beatrice is near Featherine's power but Featherine is still far more powerful than Beatrice?

Thats what trancending an entire infinite Hierachy of 1As does tho. No mattter where you stand on the Hierachy of Witches, youre still not even remotly capable of doing anything to Featherine

And yes, my bad, i clarified it in my second comment.

 

[Shivansh_Garg]

I am no Umineko expert but I am sure Featherine is waayyyyy above everyone in Umineko except Creator

 

[Continuum19]

Thats what trancending an entire infinite Hierachy of 1As does tho. No mattter where you stand on the Hierachy of Witches, youre still not even remotly capable of doing anything to Featherine

And yes, my bad, i clarified it in my second comment.

If what you say is true then there has been a miscommunication.

 

[Read_this_post]

All we have left is a touhou character and a bunch of unmorphed power rangers who are gods for some reason.

 

[SchroKatze]

>Touhou character


wait what

 

[Read_this_post]

needs a tier fam

 

[DarkNeon1994]

kek

 

[Read_this_post]

bump

 

[Read_this_post]

Bump. Also ive updated it. Any high 1-A you think should be upgraded to 0?

 

[DarkNeon1994]

No @Read I wanna keep High 1-A

 

[Read_this_post]

both are still here

 

[DarkNeon1994]

Hmmm okay, but do my OC character fit that current your tier 0 requirement?

 

[Read_this_post]

Yes. But that isnt really relevant here. where do you think the power rangers are on this?

 

[DarkNeon1994]

I not really sure. But I think I/O verse still in revision. But I think they are at least baseline 1-A tho

 

[Eleonore1488]

Why those Ynnead and Malal 3-B while Khorne and the Emperor is 3-C? It was stated that the Emperor is more powerful than a single Chaos God and Khorne is the strongest Chaos God ever, I think it wise to put Malice and Ynnead at 3-C than 3-B and also btw where is Tzeentch and good ole papa Nurgle

 

[Read_this_post]

The emperor is more powerful, but not that much more powerful. You would need to be able to at least one shot a baseline.

Oh and the living tribunal is 1-A now... Dafuq?

 

[Read_this_post]

Also apparently akuto sai isnt as strong as a thought. He literally got stomped by hajun.

 

[John985]

The thing is, no expert on Daimao was part of the thread.

 

[Read_this_post]

Ill ask donttalk. (ill have to ban him once he speaks tho...somehow)

 

[RRTheEndMan]

How is Sai not 0?

 

[Read_this_post]

He is right now. But im not sure whether it can be confirmed. Since in his vs matchups he is below beings like hajun and way below shub

 

[John985]

you can also read this.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2441602

 

[RRTheEndMan]

How is Sai not 0?

I meant to say "how is sai not high 1-A in actual tier?" If he created every sing possible story he should view people that are utterly bryond the Suggsverse's top tiers as fiction to people he views as fiction to people he views as fiction to people he views as fiction to people he views as fiction and so on in an infinite loop.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Typically speaking the wiki doesn't allow cross-company scaling unless there's a legitimate reason for it. Which in this case means no scaling to Suggsverse. But even if he could scale, then note there's dozens of Suggsverse dudes who have done literally the exact same thing but better and most of them are still garbage level in-universe.