Tier 1 Bayonetta : Massive Upgrades

[Comicgyal]

The Bayonetta 3 reckoning has begun. So here’s a cosmology and scaling upgrade for the verse.

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5-D Ginnungagap

Massive Bayonetta Upgrade : Tier 1 Kamiya

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Agree: LukeWoesal, Cyberblader, ValiantAbyss, LuffyRuffy, BayonettaXMinaj, Strife304, Dienomite22, TheAxiom, Tony_Di, WeeklyBattles, Robo, KLOL506, Sniper670, Pain, Franako, Painto12, Gilver, Abu2411, StarbrandFan, RedReaper, DarkDragonMedeus, MillyRockingBandit, Planck69, Maverick_Zero, Delta333
Disagree;

 

[Lukewoesal007]

Agree, very straightforward Low 1-C methinks.

 

[Cyberblader90]

Saw this in advance. Follows the premise as the KH buff, which works with the tiering system, so add me in for agreement

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Yup. Agreed here as well.

Btw, the timestamp on the blog where it says "Merged Singularity" doesnt work (I'm assuming you meant to put one there?)

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree, it seems pretty reasonable.

 

[BayonettaxMinaj]

Seems good to me. I agree.

 

[Strife304]

I agree

 

[Dienomite22]

agree

 

[Comicgyal]

Yup. Agreed here as well.

Btw, the timestamp on the blog where it says "Merged Singularity" doesnt work (I'm assuming you meant to put one there?)

I’m too lazy to fix it. Everyone take my word for it.

 

[Cyberblader90]

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Interesting how Low 1-C into the Bayoverse has little to do with Paradiso nor Inferno and its mostly thanks to the World of Chaos plus Ginnungagap. I wonder how Purgatorio fits into all this.

Btw I agree with the upgrades.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

I’m too lazy to fix it. Everyone take my word for it.

Sorry I can't do that. I disagree now.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I have to disagree on principle alone because I'm a DMC guy :v

 

[Cyberblader90]

tony back the abyss with you

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I refuse >:v

But ya this seems fine by me

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Already talked with yall extensively about it, so you know i agree

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Just realized we're going to get a tier 1 genderbent Tilda Swinton if this goes through.

 

[Robo432343]

agree

 

[Robo432343]

wait why wasn't this accepted in another thread?

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

why wasn't what accepted? This is all new evidence.

 

[Robo432343]

why wasn't what accepted? This is all new evidence.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/bayonetta-verse-revisions-low-1-c-infinite.115165/

 

[Comicgyal]

It’s a different argument, the basis of it is no longer Aesirs transcendence.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Just realized we're going to get a tier 1 genderbent Tilda Swinton if this goes through.

Also GoW

 

[KLOL506]

I just read the blog, I wholeheartedly agree with this upgrade thread. Kudos Comicygal.

 

[Shmooply]

Second time's the charm, following.

 

[Comicgyal]

More like third. If this attempt fails, we’ll have to resort to Chinese mobile game scans.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

More like third. If this attempt fails, we’ll have to resort to Chinese mobile game scans.

Just wait for the novel we're getting next year

 

[PrinceofPein]

I have to say that aside the Ginnungagap encompassing the parallel worlds, are there other feats?
or rather are the parallel worlds infinite?

The smallest infinity to contain another infinity is an uncountable one; and due to the World of Chaos being a 4-D structure,

While this is technically true or can be true, we do not treat it that way here and a larger 4-D structure can contain another one, what I am saying is that a bigger space containing a universe does not grant tiers without further context

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I have to say that aside the Ginnungagap encompassing the parallel worlds, are there other feats?

Feats for a cosmological structure...?

or rather are the parallel worlds infinite?

They are, yes

While this is technically true or can be true, we do not treat it that way here and a larger 4-D structure can contain another one, what I am saying is that a bigger space containing a universe does not grant tiers without further context

We...do treat it that way though? Theres a lot of verses that are tier 1 based on this model.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Feats for a cosmological structure...?

I meant like statements elaborating it

They are, yes

Then that should be the reason for low 1-C, it should be added that the Ginnugap contains infinite timelines, at that point it is low 1-C

We...do treat it that way though? Theres a lot of verses that are tier 1 based on this model.

They have more context aside, A contains B so A is 5-D.

 

[Sniper670]

Thread's legit. I agree with it.

Actually mostly because this was the same premise for a recent (and heated) thread, the Ben 10 one. That thread finally cleared all disagreements about stuff like this

https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-low-1-c-time-stream-proposal.147161/

 

[Franako]

I agree

 

[Comicgyal]

I meant like statements elaborating it

Then that should be the reason for low 1-C, it should be added that the Ginnugap contains infinite timelines, at that point it is low 1-C

They have more context aside, A contains B so A is 5-D.

All the universes are their own timelines, as they all exist on an entirely seperate axis. Kamiya explains that to us here, when sending little Cereza back in time, an entirely new timeline was created. This is how all alternate universes, or timelines, work.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I meant like statements elaborating it

Then that should be the reason for low 1-C, it should be added that the Ginnugap contains infinite timelines, at that point it is low 1-C

They have more context aside, A contains B so A is 5-D.

Yeah, Chaos contains an infinite number of universal space-time continuums/timelines, each with a corresponding parallel Purgatorio realm that is equal in size to the universe it is parallel to (ie. two infinite numbers of universal space-time continuums/timelines), with Paradiso and Inferno being infinite in size and scope compared to these individual universes and Chaos as a whole being equal in size to Paradiso and Purgatorio, as well as Alfheim and Muspelheim being equal in size and scope to Paradiso and Purgatorio.

Summed up, the cosmology is two 2-A multiverses contained by Chaos, with Paradiso, Purgatorio, Alfheim, and Muspelheim being equal to Chaos in size and scope, all of which is contained by the Ginnugap

 

[PrinceofPein]

All the universes are their own timelines, as they all exist on an entirely seperate axis. Kamiya explains that to us here, when sending little Cereza back in time, an entirely new timeline was created. This is how all alternate universes, or timelines, work.

yes the question is if the universes or timelines are infinite

 

[PrinceofPein]

Yeah, Chaos contains an infinite number of universal space-time continuums/timelines, each with a corresponding parallel Purgatorio realm that is equal in size to the universe it is parallel to (ie. two infinite numbers of universal space-time continuums/timelines), with Paradiso and Inferno being infinite in size and scope compared to these individual universes and Chaos as a whole being equal in size to Paradiso and Purgatorio, as well as Alfheim and Muspelheim being equal in size and scope to Paradiso and Purgatorio.

Summed up, the cosmology is two 2-A multiverses contained by Chaos, with Paradiso, Purgatorio, Alfheim, and Muspelheim being equal to Chaos in size and scope, all of which is contained by the Ginnugap

Then the low 1-C is fine, this should be explained and added to the blog

 

[Comicgyal]

Then the low 1-C is fine, this should be explained and added to hte blog

I state in the blog that the structure Ginnungagap encompasses is 4-D, which means it’s an infinite multiverse, so.

 

[PrinceofPein]

I state in the blog that the structure Ginnungagap encompasses is 4-D, which means it’s an infinite multiverse, so.

At all low 2-C is 4-D and also infinite. that does not mean containing a low 2-C structure will give you low 1-C. you need to explain and make it detailed enough to understand

 

[Dienomite22]

At all low 2-C is 4-D and also infinite. that does not mean containing a low 2-C structure will give you low 1-C. you need to explain and make it detailed enough to understand

The blog already states what you're asking but in a way someone not knowledge wouldn't understand.

This

Low 1-C ((United with the Chaotic Energy of the entire multiverse, the World of Chaos, in which time reflects infinitely. His destabilization reached Ginuungagap, the void that encompasses all worlds, like how Earth is enveloped by the universe)

Means this

Low 1-C (United with the Chaotic Energy of the entire multiverse, the World of Chaos, which has infinite timelines. His destabilization reached Ginuungagap, the void that encompasses all worlds, like how Earth is enveloped by the universe)

 

[Comicgyal]

I’ve changed some wording in the blog to make it easier to understand.