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Tier 1 Bayonetta : Massive Upgrades

Yeah i mean it encompasses the 2A structure at once or just the universes in the 2A structure
Ginnungagap acts as the bulk containing all universes.

Think of each individual universe as an island, and the ocean separating each universe being ginnungagap.
 
Ginnungagap acts as the bulk containing all universes.

Think of each individual universe as an island, and the ocean separating each universe being ginnungagap.
So.. ginnungagap is containing/encompasses the universes just like universe encompasses earth/planet
 
So.. ginnungagap is containing/encompasses the universes just like universe encompasses earth/planet
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Tbf even if Ginnungagap contains only one universe it's still low 1-C anyways if the difference between Ginnungagap and the 4-D universe is similar to the 4-D universe and the 3-D Earth, which it's uncountable. So yea I agree with this thread.
 
Agree with this too.

Tho, just a question real quick. For a 2-A structure being “small” in comparison to something else to make the latter Low 1-C, how small would it need to be in order to suggest qualitative superiority and not just simply containing it as a bigger 4-D?
 
Agree with this too.

Tho, just a question real quick. For a 2-A structure being “small” in comparison to something else to make the latter Low 1-C, how small would it need to be in order to suggest qualitative superiority and not just simply containing it as a bigger 4-D?
Well, just… small, Kukui.

An infinite amount of universes (or just an infinite structure) takes up an infinite space. The smallest infinity to encompass a countable infinity (Low 2-C) is Low 1-C. That’s why you don’t need a 2-A cosmology for a 5-D rating. Just how we as 3-D beings exist, and are surrounded in a 4-D axis (the universe), the same thing would apply infinitely, lest they remain on the same plane.
 
Well, just… small, Kukui.

An infinite amount of universes (or just an infinite structure) takes up an infinite space. The smallest infinity to encompass a countable infinity (Low 2-C) is Low 1-C. That’s why you don’t need a 2-A cosmology for a 5-D rating. Just how we as 3-D beings exist, and are surrounded in a 4-D axis (the universe), the same thing would apply infinitely, lest they remain on the same plane.

Okay, so what would be the difference between this and just containing 4-D structures as just “Larger 4-D”

I agree with the upgrade as I said, I’m only asking for future reference as I want to understand what the difference would be is all
 
Okay, so what would be the difference between this and just containing 4-D structures as just “Larger 4-D”

I agree with the upgrade as I said, I’m only asking for future reference as I want to understand what the difference would be is all
Well, again, for an infinite amount of space with four spatial axes to be contained in something, it would need a 5th axis to be embedded on. Unless the verse specifically says it doesn’t, I suppose.

I don’t think you can have something encompass an infinite space without you trivializing its existence. Especially since the art book goes out of its way to establish the way it encompasses all worlds is how the universe does earth.
 
Well, again, for an infinite amount of space with four spatial axes to be contained in something, it would need a 5th axis to be embedded on. Unless the verse specifically says it doesn’t, I suppose.

I don’t think you can have something encompass an infinite space without you trivializing its existence. Especially since the art book goes out of its way to establish the way it encompasses all worlds is how the universe does earth.
so from what I understand
to contain an infinite amount of 3d stuff you need to be a higher level of infinite thus 4d
and in this case an infinite amount 4d stuff is contained in something thus that thing must be a higher infinity thus 5d
 
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