Tiamat versus Yogiri Takatou

[John985]

Well king hassan actually has to sacrifice his saint graph just to impose it. Even if he did impose it, the only thing we can do is to throw her to the imaginary number space.
It is 1-C because Avalon is 6D and akasha is above it.

 

[Schnee_One]

"Die"

"No"

"WHAT?"

/thread

 

[YungManzi]

Wait, is that her actual resistance, or the death manipulation's inability to effect those with type 5?

 

[Schnee_One]

Conceptual Death Bypasses Type 5, so resistance

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Last time I checked, Tier 1 Nasuverse was rejected because there were barely any contexts about higher dimension.

 

[PhantomØ4]

Seems like inability to affect those with type 5 in all honesty, she just can't see their concept of death so she can't apply death by cutting the lines of death.


Also, I don't think the question was how Akasha is 1-C, it was more how Shiki's death manipulation scales to 1-C just because it has a connection to it.

 

[YungManzi]

Conceptual Death Bypasses Type 5, so resistance

Uhh...I don't think so. You would have to prove that they can manipulate a concept that isn't there in the first place.

Type 5 is literally lacking the concept of death.

Edit:

To clarify, not all type 5 immortals lack the concept of death. But the one that Yogiri killed did, and Tiamat does as well.

 

[John985]

Avalon was accepted though. The page of Akasha was also deleted because she's not a character but a place.

Check the durability of Avalo.

 

[Schnee_One]

Uhh...I don't think so. You would have to prove that they can manipulate a concept that isn't there in the first place.

Type 5 is literally lacking the concept of death.

Lacking the Conceot of Death to have Type 5 was rejected, hence why it doesn't state you need to lack it on the page

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Avalon was accepted though. The page of Akasha was also deleted because she's not a character but a place.
Check the durability of Avalo.

Don't really know why it was, but I guess I'll have to dig back in to old threads I guess. I also heard there was supposed to be a blog explaining Akasha.

 

[DMB_1]

Even if Shiki's' abilities are connected to Akasha, why exactly would they be 1-C in potency?

 

[YungManzi]

Lacking the Conceot of Death to have Type 5 was rejected, hence why it doesn't state you need to lack it on the page

"Edit:

To clarify, not all type 5 immortals lack the concept of death. But the one that Yogiri killed did, and Tiamat does as well."

I speed blitzed you

 

[Schnee_One]

The fact that I quoted your post before you edited means I was faster though

 

[PhantomØ4]

Shiki is literally stating she can't see her death lines because Archetype Earth lacks the concept of death... even if she could negate lesser or other forms of Type 5 Immortality she still can't counter lacking the concept of death because lacking the concept of death = no death lines = no instant kill.

 

[YungManzi]

@DMB Makes a good point, I had heard that it was accepted a while ago that just because your power comes from a higher dimensional entity, doesn't mean that it is a higher D power itself.

 

[John985]

It's more on word of god, it was said that Archetype-Earth is above void shiki.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

@DMB Makes a good point, I had heard that it was accepted a while ago that just because your power comes from a higher dimensional entity, doesn't mean that it is a higher D power itself.

That brings up the question: Why is Avalon Low 1C? When I read the justifications in the profile, I only see something about "higher dimension" and "up to the sixth (dimension)"

 

[John985]

https://www.tmdict.com/en/su.avalon

 

[Paul_Frank]

This thread is a mismatch either way

Either tiamat doesn't resist and can do nothing and dies

Or tiamat resists and Yogiri can do nothing and dies

 

[DMB_1]

It's more on word of god, it was said that Archetype-Earth is above void shiki.

Now that's confusing since Archetype Earth is Tier 3 to 2 as of right now, not 1-C.

 

[Schnee_One]

Isn't Yogiri's Death passive?

 

[Paul_Frank]

Pseudo passive

 

[DMB_1]

I'd call it more "Automatic" rather than passive.

 

[Schnee_One]

Then stomp

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