Yogiri Takatou vs Kiana Kaslana | 0-0-0

[Brogeefrong]

learn about the chicken assassin training by going into my secret dungeon
The End Yogiri is used and is Low 1-A
Cocoon of Finality Kiana is used and is Possibly Low 1-A
Speed is equalized
fight takes place at tier 1-A giveaway center

Yogiri Takatou

Yogiri Takato (高遠たかとお 夜よ霧ぎり, Takatō Yogiri?) is the main protagonist of the Instant Death series and a high school student who got transported to another world by a woman called Sion. After being abandoned to die by his classmates for being powerless, and asleep, alongside Tomochika, Ayaka...

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Kiana Kaslana

Kiana Kaslana (キアナ・カスラナ, Kiana Kasurana?) is the main heroine of "Honkai Impact 3rd". Originally known as K-423, she is a clone of the original Kiana Kaslana, the child of Siegfried Kaslana and Cecilia Schariac, rescued by Siegfried and the original Kiana. During her rescue however, the original...

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[Vietthai96]

Iirc, Yogiri is 1 order above baseline low 1-a while kiana is baseline low 1-a, so Yogurt just suck her into his darkness.

Wait shit, someone forget to add HDE and Large Size type 10 to Yogurt, bruhh, peoples just busy removing his abilities

 

[Delta333]

Yogiri passively returns her to the oblivion.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Iirc, Yogiri is 1 order above baseline low 1-a while kiana is baseline low 1-a, so Yogurt just suck her into his darkness.

Wait shit, someone forget to add HDE and Large Size type 10 to Yogurt, bruhh, peoples just busy removing his abilities

The Imaginary Tree scales to Absolute Infinity which is far above baseline Low 1-A, which IIRC is at least infinite times above baseline. Probably the pinnacle singular cardinality of the tier that doesn't involve sums and the Universal Set.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Iirc, Yogiri is 1 order above baseline low 1-a while kiana is baseline low 1-a, so Yogurt just suck her into his darkness.

Wait shit, someone forget to add HDE and Large Size type 10 to Yogurt, bruhh, peoples just busy removing his abilities

Nope, his BDE and Large size was actually removed in a CRT, with 4 admins agreeing to it.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

pretty sure yogiiri is getting downgraded into oblivion while kiana has outdated powers and abilities except HDE and other stuff from recent crts

 

[Vietthai96]

The Imaginary Tree scales to Absolute Infinity which is far above baseline Low 1-A, which IIRC is at least infinite times above baseline. Probably the pinnacle singular cardinality of the tier that doesn't involve sums and the Universal Set.

Yogurt is beyond Ultimate Ensemble which is beyond Type 4 Max Tegmark multiverse, Max Tegmark Type 4 multiverse is a multiverse that holding all possible universes with all possible mathematic underlying the structure, if i'm not wrong including even cantor's absolute infinity

pretty sure yogiiri is getting downgraded into oblivion while kiana has outdated powers and abilities except HDE and other stuff from recent crts

well, his abilities get properly evaluated, but not much though

Nope, his BDE and Large size was actually removed in a CRT, with 4 admins agreeing to it.

what i mean is HDE, HDE =/= BDE also as a Low 1-A being that beyond the Ultimate Ensemble, he still should have Large Size type 10, it is just that he had type 11 before, and since type 11 got removed and he got downgraded from 1-A to Low 1-A due to standard change, the ability on Yogurt also got removed along

 

[DaReaperMan]

Dinnae baith o' thae profiles need a lot o' wirk? we likelie shouldn't uise either 'til they're duin

 

[SweetDao]

Iirc, Yogiri is 1 order above baseline low 1-a while kiana is baseline low 1-a, so Yogurt just suck her into his darkness.

He isn't, really. He's just stronger than Mitsuki, who is himself stronger than UEG. Power is additive in ID.

Also, it's not "his darkness", just how people see death.

Yogurt is beyond Ultimate Ensemble which is beyond Type 4 Max Tegmark multiverse, Max Tegmark Type 4 multiverse is a multiverse that holding all possible universes with all possible mathematic underlying the structure, if i'm not wrong including even cantor's absolute infinity

No. He would at best be an existence equal to it, not above or beyond it.

 

[SweetDao]

Dinnae baith o' thae profiles need a lot o' wirk? we likelie shouldn't uise either 'til they're duin

I agree with this though. With everything we planned, it would be a mismatch in Kiana favor.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Yogurt is beyond Ultimate Ensemble which is beyond Type 4 Max Tegmark multiverse, Max Tegmark Type 4 multiverse is a multiverse that holding all possible universes with all possible mathematic underlying the structure, if i'm not wrong including even cantor's absolute infinity

Bro that is not just one order above baseline

Anyways, lock this, heck of a stomp.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Bro that is not just one order above baseline

Anyways, lock this, heck of a stomp.

In which favour?

 

[GarrixianXD]

In which favour?

Yogiri via transcending a type 4 multiverse.

 

[SweetDao]

Yogiri via transcending a type 4 multiverse.

He doesn't.

 

[GarrixianXD]

He doesn't.

Bruh this fuсker @Vietthai96 lying anyways I take back what I said then

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Thats why i hate isekai matchups

 

[SweetDao]

Bruh this fuсker @Vietthai96 lying anyways I take back what I said then

Even right now, if you check his profile, the explanations are terrible.

AT MOST, he's an existence equal to it. Until I downgrade him into oblivion, that is.

 

[Delta333]

Even if his existence is equal to type 4 multiverse rather than transcending it then he still stomps due to scaling to bigger cosmology. If you want him to lose then remove that from his profile first

 

[SweetDao]

Even if his existence is equal to type 4 multiverse rather than transcending it then he still stomps due to scaling to bigger cosmology. If you want him to lose then remove that from his profile first

Well, to be fair I said "At most", he shouldn't even be equal, though his range would.

And yeah sure, it will be removed don't worry, so this match might be useless? I don't know how versus thread really work here, but in any case it would later be deleted since the change would impact Yogurt's rating.

 

[Delta333]

this match might be useless

It will be, since to downgrade the type 4 multiverse is to make him not having tier low 1-A, which in turn result in a stomp in favor of Kiana.

in any case it would later be deleted since the change would impact Yogurt's rating

it’s stomp either way so this match is probably not added to his profile anyways.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

In which favour?

Kiana's

 

[Vietthai96]

Bruh this fuсker @Vietthai96 lying anyways I take back what I said then

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

The Imaginary Tree scales to Absolute Infinity which is far above baseline Low 1-A, which IIRC is at least infinite times above baseline. Probably the pinnacle singular cardinality of the tier that doesn't involve sums and the Universal Set.

Absolute Infinity is baseline low 1-A.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Absolute Infinity is baseline low 1-A.

Iirc Absolute Infinity is treated as the biggest value and… nvm, it is. Makes sense I suppose.

 

[BoastJr]

Hmm both are under revision and subject to many changes so this matchup will become pointless soon.

But other then that, Yogiri stomps here for now unless he is downgraded even further

Thats why i hate isekai matchups

:/

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Hmm both are under revision and subject to many changes so this matchup will become pointless soon.

But other then that, Yogiri stomps here for now unless he is downgraded even further

No worries, That is currently a work in progress.

 

[Phoenks]

The Imaginary Tree scales to Absolute Infinity which is far above baseline Low 1-A, which IIRC is at least infinite times above baseline. Probably the pinnacle singular cardinality of the tier that doesn't involve sums and the Universal Set.

This is not true. Absolute Infinite is baseline Low 1-A.

Absolute Infinity = Type IV Multiverse = Von Neumann Universe = Set of All Sets (Universal Set)

They are all just baseline Low 1-A.

Mitsuki's dream contains an ultimate ensemble (Type IV Multiverse), and Yogiri transcends that. So he is just 1 layer above baseline at most.

You could probably even argue he is just unquantifiable stronger than baseline though.

 

[GarrixianXD]

This is not true. Absolute Infinite is baseline Low 1-A.

Absolute Infinity = Type IV Multiverse = Von Neumann Universe = Set of All Sets (Universal Set)

Yes I realised

 

[SweetDao]

Mitsuki's dream contains an ultimate ensemble (Type IV Multiverse), and Yogiri transcends that. So he is just 1 layer above baseline at most.

Mitsuki's dream doesn't contain the cosmology and arguably doesn't even have a valid R>F on the little world he "sees as fiction".

Yogiri doesn't transcend anything.

Both are baseline, then.

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

oh boy. so i see a funny match up right here

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

Mitsuki's dream doesn't contain the cosmology and arguably doesn't even have a valid R>F on the little world he "sees as fiction".

Yogiri doesn't transcend anything.

Both are baseline, then.

well no.

Spoiler: V15

UG confirms that yogiri the end his true from does in fact "transcend" the ultimate collection world/ultimate ensemble world (zero told me they mean the same thing) basically the collection world contains all lower and higher worlds, contains all the gods and the v road everything even "UG" which is watching the story from some realm.

now anywho from that weird fest of a novel i will say this much i don't remember if kiana has any real good counters to the ends power even with the quantum physiology referenced in the Vn, same with the whole

Spoiler: ggz

reborn arc in ggz when she destroyed the world pillar, I would say the same when we fight jyander sadly we never face Thanatos, zeus, yog or azathoth they kinda just exist

from what ik yogiris end effect would work on her but not to sure atm

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

This is not true. Absolute Infinite is baseline Low 1-A.

Absolute Infinity = Type IV Multiverse = Von Neumann Universe = Set of All Sets (Universal Set)

They are all just baseline Low 1-A.

Mitsuki's dream contains an ultimate ensemble (Type IV Multiverse), and Yogiri transcends that. So he is just 1 layer above baseline at most.

You could probably even argue he is just unquantifiable stronger than baseline though.

absolute infinity doesn't equal type IV multiverse. no idea where you got that notion from. and type IV also doesn't equal von neumann universe set hierarchy either.

its type iv multiverse contains "absolute infinity" in the sense of the principle cause it contains "mathematics" and then von Neumann universe model would by all accounts "contain all sets" and this would mean "it would contain all infinite sets, transfinite, inaccessible so forth" it do be a "set hierarchy". so then thust
All "real" mathematical principles = type iv multiverse = low 1-A
same with the totality of vons model = low 1-A (same with how the faq words it) unless i read the explanation provided wrong on the papers for said documentation. if i did my mistake then those documents are confusing to read through.

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

absolute infinity doesn't equal type IV multiverse. no idea where you got that notion from. and type IV also doesn't equal von neumann universe set hierarchy either.

its type iv multiverse contains "absolute infinity" in the sense of the principle cause it contains "mathematics" and then von Neumann universe model would by all accounts "contain all sets" and this would mean "it would contain all infinite sets, transfinite, inaccessible so forth" it do be a "set hierarchy". so then thust
All "real" mathematical principles = type iv multiverse = low 1-A
same with the totality of vons model = low 1-A (same with how the faq words it) unless i read the explanation provided wrong on the papers for said documentation. if i did my mistake then those documents are confusing to read through.

though now i say this there are "two" "absolute infinites" one is the philosophy one and the other is something entirely else but oh well don't care V15 confirms yogiri is low 1-A or 1-A whenever official tl comes out will be a interesting discussion

 

[Phoenks]

absolute infinity doesn't equal type IV multiverse. no idea where you got that notion from. and type IV also doesn't equal von neumann universe set hierarchy either.

its type iv multiverse contains "absolute infinity" in the sense of the principle cause it contains "mathematics" and then von Neumann universe model would by all accounts "contain all sets" and this would mean "it would contain all infinite sets, transfinite, inaccessible so forth" it do be a "set hierarchy". so then thust
All "real" mathematical principles = type iv multiverse = low 1-A
same with the totality of vons model = low 1-A unless i read the explanation provided wrong on the papers for said documentation. if i did my mistake then those documents are confusing to read through.

Absolute Infinity is not inherently "contained" within Type IV Multiverse, for one.

The two of them are effectively the same in terms of the amount of "stuff" they have.

Absolute Infinity is Cantor's belief in a transfinite number that simply transcends and contains all other transfinite numbers—comprised and exceeding every possible set. It in of itself is not really a property of mathematics nor is it well-defined like typical cardinalities. It is basically just a mathematician's philosophical god infinity.

Type IV Multiverse also just contains every set and other properties of well-defined math. (It can potentially be extended to include a lot more things, however—this is the baseline of it)

Von Neumann does the same thing.



So yeah, they are all equal.

 

[SweetDao]

well no.

Indeed, no.

He doesn't transcend it, UG says that it's a "rule" of the Ultimate Ensemble World. Give me the quote itself that states he's "beyond the Ultimate Ensemble World".

I do hope you're not referring to this :

It has existed since before I came into being, perhaps from the very beginning of the "world." It's one of the rules that make up the "world" and it is an existence that defines the "world." It signifies the limits of the "world," the end, and acts as a stopper.

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

Indeed, no.

He doesn't transcend it, UG says that it's a "rule" of the Ultimate Ensemble World. Give me the quote itself that states he's "beyond the Ultimate Ensemble World".

I do hope you're not referring to this :

I think i might mean that if i did my bad. V15 was rather confusing to read through

Spoiler: V15

i was specifically just talking about how the end is beyond the collection world ik about the whole "the world" stuff its whatever ngl UG was yapping a lot it didn't seem like a "transcendence" just that he was in a way "stronger" then it

 

[LifeRiderthe1]

Absolute Infinity is not inherently "contained" within Type IV Multiverse, for one.

The two of them are effectively the same in terms of the amount of "stuff" they have.

Absolute Infinity is Cantor's belief in a transfinite number that simply transcends and contains all other transfinite numbers—comprised and exceeding every possible set. It in of itself is not really a property of mathematics nor is it well-defined like typical cardinalities. It is basically just a mathematician's philosophical god infinity.

Type IV Multiverse also just contains every set and other properties of well-defined math. (It can potentially be extended to include a lot more things, however—this is the baseline of it)

Von Neumann does the same thing.



So yeah, they are all equal.

oh you mean that. i see guess miss understanding then

 

[SweetDao]

i was specifically just talking about how the end is beyond the collection world ik about the whole "the world" stuff its whatever ngl UG was yapping a lot it didn't seem like a "transcendence" just that he was in a way "stronger" then it

As you said, he is "stronger" than anyone inside the cosmology, including UG, but not once does it state that he's beyond it, heck, it says it's a rule inside it.

So yeah, he would just be baseline.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

No point anymore the waifu stomps now

 

[Robo432343]

yogiri is washed