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Thor Lifting Strength Upgrade
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Oliver_de_jesus
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well there is also the fact that the characters weaken themselves in order to have a better battle or not kill their arbesary.
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This is just a common trope in fiction, where a character's emotional state or determination can shift their strength levels drastically. Anime stuff even has a name for this, "power of friendship" or whatever.
Hulk's highest tier feats are wank, plain and simple, the Nightcrawler """universe""" deadass is tier 7 in the relevant way Hulk destroys it, and Crossroads is ****** up by the wackiest scaling required to pull off the feat, Ironclad is just not Low 2-C, and U-Foes are NEVER as powerful as that one arc ever again, hell they go back to Spider-Man tier.
Like at the end of the day Thor genuinely does tend to have the best showcase along all of them, going all out, which genuinely shouldn't scale to the others
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That comic issue, yes.
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I refrain from calling things outliers unless I have the numbers to back it up, and I'm unfamiliar with Ironclad.
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I'm also neutral on an at peak rating.
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So given that, if I remember correctly, Thor reversed time through sheer physical power in all the 9 Worlds/Universes, by moving the World Engine, should we consider this as using the same principle as his 2-C God Blast, and give base Thor Low Multiverse level attack potency and Immeasurable lifting strength statistics when exerting himself to his absolute peak?
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Yeah, that's valid imo.
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Excellence616
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Ironclad and The rest of The U-Foes powers were fluctuating as a result of Vector's repelling powers which affect reality and also the time disturbance in the Crossroads. So it is possible that The U-Foes powers were increased temporary because Ironclad should be at least 6-C or High 6-C at best.
Incredible Hulk Vol 1 #304 and 305
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I think Efi, Ehren and Tracer haven't replied thus far.
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Excellence616
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Actually it was Vector's power that cause the amp.
Source: Marvel Database
Crossroads (Dimension)
The Crossroads was an otherdimensional plane where the traditional laws of physics did not apply. The Crossroads served as a nexus point to an infinite number of alien dimensions,[1] and there was even a signpost guiding all the explorers to the many different destinations,[2] though it could be...
marvel.fandom.com
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Never state Marvel Database entries as a source for anything, that's a fan-edited site lmao
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Okay
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I think Thor being 2-C at his absolute peak is fine.
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So is it
“high 6-C, 3-C at peak, 2-C at absolute peak” ?
Or just straight up 2-C at peak?
“high 6-C, 3-C at peak, 2-C at absolute peak” ?
Or just straight up 2-C at peak?
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2-C is his absolute limit that he can't keep up for long because it'd kill him.
High 6-C when holding back, 3-C when not holding back, 2-C at his absolute max limit.
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Eficiente's wording's better, ye
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I think that the following wording seems a bit better/reads as being less repetitive and self-contradictory.
"High 6-C when holding back. 3-C when not holding back. 2-C at his absolute maximum upper limit."
"High 6-C when holding back. 3-C when not holding back. 2-C at his absolute maximum upper limit."
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I think this is fine too.
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Thank you. So is somebody here willing to properly apply that change to Thor's page then? Also, how should we properly explain the World Engine feat? Can somebody reread the Warren Ellis story in question please?
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I'm fine with the feat being considered legitimate for his self-sacrifice level. However, I'm a bit confused by some of these messages. Is this feat going to be correlated with his God Blast feats for his self-sacrifice level, or are they going to be two separate statistics? Both are logically sound imo, but the latter would bloat the page a bit.
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That's a possible way for sure. Though, if the God Blast drains his lifeforce, and requires all of his energies, could it be considered a different way of overexerting himself? If the conditions for this feat and the God Blast are considered different enough, I'm fine with what you suggested.
Also, here's an imgur file I made giving all the scans and context for the feat I could find. If anyone has additions/suggestions, I'm open.
Edit: Also for full transparency, a lot of the research and observations were made by my friend @Supreme_odin, and most credit goes to him, but I read the issues over to double check things for myself.
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A similar principle applies with Thor's God-Blast, yes.
Thank you for the image gallery, but how should we word the justification for the feat in Thor's wiki page?
Would something like this be acceptable and accurately described?
"(Reversed time in all of the Nine Worlds through sheer physical force by pushing the World Engine which contained Ygdrasil, the world tree.)"
Thank you for the image gallery, but how should we word the justification for the feat in Thor's wiki page?
Would something like this be acceptable and accurately described?
"(Reversed time in all of the Nine Worlds through sheer physical force by pushing the World Engine which contained Ygdrasil, the world tree.)"
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Seems good to me and covers everything, though would the tiering be just 2-C, or 2-C possibly 2-A? I know the way we tier Yggdrasil-feats depends on if it was affecting just the 9 realms or the entirety of Yggdrasil, so what would this be affecting?
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