The Tickle Monster tries to save a suicidal janitor

[Crimson_Azoth]

It was not shot through.

The actual SCP file says that it "took a bullet"

The page here says that it "blocked a bullet"

Neither actually says that the membrane was ripped.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Where do you think its Regenerationn comes from anyways?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Seriously man, you thing a high tier regen is being overcome by skin ripping?

SCP-682 immediately steps on SCP-999, completely flattening SCP-999. Observers were about to abort the experiment when SCP-682 started talking again.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Using Highway to Hell, which places the effect that the user has on the target, surely Thunder's injuries not healing would mean that 999's injuries would also fail to heal.

Would Thunder's Durability Negation negate 999's Low-High regen?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No. Goddamit what makes you assume things like this anyways? It reflects dammage on the enemy, the end.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And again, being splattered did not kill it, as it was still just as happy, which means that even if it could not heal, it still would have won, as it would be not dead

 

[Wokistan]

Doesn't matter that he doesn't do it when bloodlusted, since its still a possibility its valid. Matt from EBF would win a lot more matches if he used his hax in character, but he doesn't. Doesn't make those losses stomps or invalid just because he's an idiot.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Excuse me? He litiraly cannot get past the Regenerationn, and the fact that it can survive while being splattered means that even if the dammage was permanent it would still nkt work.


This is not about his character, this is about his inability to kill 999

 

[Wokistan]

Putting a box over it was something you complained about since its OOC. It's still a possible wincon, as blob is physically 10C and wouldn't be able to move it if McQueen just sat on the box or something. He could also just pick it up using like a tree branch or something given that its central park and dump it into water for incap. He wouldn't do this due to his character, but its not like it is totally impossible to get rid of the blob. Also, if the blob has no death manip resist it is assumed death manip of all kinds would work on it.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Dude, first of all, where would he get a box?

Second of all, how would he put it in the box whitout being touched?

Thrid, whiy would it not just go out from the earth, as its liquid and has been shown to manipulate itself into tentacles and such

Fourth, do youbrealize how big 999 is? It can also stetch itself further to simply not fit into this box that came out of nowhere

 

[Wokistan]

Box is just kinda like a random word, a bench or rock also works, he just puts shit on top of 999 like someone normally would, 999 is too viscous to seep into the ground (Peanutbutter like consistency), and he can still be lifted on the end of a stick or something. With that consistency, it would probably clump together well enough that with some luck it could be dumped in some water, its just far more likely that some gets on Thunder and the fight comes to a happier end. This is way OOC, like usual, but it's still technically possible.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No, you cant hold a liquid entity down withba rock or a bench! You are just searching for excuses now.

Again, there is no water nearby man, and how would he grab a liquid being and force it to go somwhere?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And drop the OOC stuff, no one is discussing that but you. You are grasping at straws, first saying that skin breaking would kill a low high regen creature, then that a bench can hold a slime down.

 

[Wokistan]

Central Park should have deep enough water, and consider that its the consistency of peanut butter as described as the profile. That's viscous enough to manipulate. 999 still has no death manip resist btw.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

First, no, he would need to touch it to do that.

Second, you dont need death manipulation resistance to survive it, if you bothered checking the page of death manipulation, you would see that forci g organs to fail counts as death manip, and thats what mc has

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

1. Boxes aren't exactly uncommon. He could find one.

2. Dunno. Not impossible though. Could wait until 999 leaps at him (that it does) and then hold up the box and let it jump into it.

3. Yes, it is liquid. However, the membrane, which was a topic of discussion not too long ago, would actually prevent it slipping through the ground like water. Also, who says one end of the box needs to be up against the ground? Thunder could just close the box lid and duct-tape it.

4. Yes, I do realise how big it is. The size of a beanbag chair. And it won't be able to stretch itself to not fit into the box if it is already in the box.

 

[Wokistan]

You don't need to touch a blob of viscous substance to snap a stick off a nearby tree, poke the stick into it, and lift it from there. Do you touch everything you shovel? Also, I'm fairly certain it's not just organ damage, considering how it also redirects superficial damage. While there's that unknown dura due to the SCP foundation not really wanting to kill 999, It can't be assumed that it's far higher than McQueen. Also, any proof it works exclusively off of organ damage?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

1 the size of 999? No

2 it can just force its tentacles to go out of it

3 he has ducktape too now?

4 it could lengthen itself to the sze of 682s neck, so yes it can

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

You don't need to touch a blob of viscous substance to snap a stick off a nearby tree, poke the stick into it, and lift it from there. Do you touch everything you shovel? Also, I'm fairly certain it's not just organ damage, considering how it also redirects superficial damage. While there's that unknown dura due to the SCP foundation not really wanting to kill 999, It can't be assumed that it's far higher than McQueen. Also, any proof it works exclusively off of organ damage?

It can easly just let go of the stick, because there is a reason it being stomped on did not hold it down. And that is assuming thunder has knowlege, by your logic the enemy being hit by a meteor counts as a counter to stomp as it is possible for it to happen.

He has a shovel too now?

Burden of proof fallacy, again, it only refelcted dammage done to his body, so its assumed it can only reflect that.

 

[Wokistan]

It was described as reflecting death, in vague terms. No reason to assume that it's limited to organ damage rather than the state of death itself, as is far more common for these types of abilities. Shovel is clearly an analogy to try to get you to understand why he wouldn't have to come in contact with it if you've ever shoveled anything, he would be using a stick to the same effect. Can't really let go of something stuck into you. How is using your environment in any way equivalent to a random event of chance? Sticks and stuff are obviously present in central park. That's not a stretch at all.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Wow, no reason to assume it is not conceptual manipulation huh? Well i cant argue with that.

You see, the slime is capable of controlling every inch of its body, so showing something in it would not automaticly make it stick, and the possibility of him getting the "shovel" to... I dont know, there is no place where low-high regen would be countere before it just jumps on him.


And reliaing on the chance of there being a box, as thats the only object that could possibly help here, is a by chance thing

 

[Wokistan]

The reason to discount conceptual is that no mention of concepts are made. Mentions of sharing the state of death are made.

It doesn't need to be likely, as it's hilariously OOC anyways, it just needs to not be totally impossible.

Benches are quite common in Central Park.

Also, since OP bloodlusted McQueen, does that mean that he becomes happy then immediately goes to kill it again since its not like a mental destruction or enslavement? I actually have no idea, I don't do bloodlusting.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But that IS conceptual, sharing the very concept of death is a conceptual act, or simply a way to explain it in a short manner, in which case your point is null.

Well, a meteor crashing isnt totaly impossible, so thats alright logic. NO, it needs to be not impossible for the character to win, in fact, if the enviroment alone gives victory to someone, it needs to be changed.

No, its a mindhax that affected a being with a hyperversal mind

 

[Wokistan]

State of being deadÔëáKilling someone on a conceptual level

Random natural disasterÔëáPicking up a stick in a place that has a lot of trees

That was more a question about bloodlust than anything, since I see it so infrequently. But that sounds fine.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

You are just being stupid on porpuse now. Forcing death itself onto someone is manipulating the concept of death.

No, i debunked the stick thing already, it dies not stick if it doesnt want to.

 

[Wokistan]

You are just being stupid on porpuse now. Forcing death itself onto someone is manipulating the concept of death.

No, i debunked the stick thing already, it dies not stick if it doesnt want to.

Ok, this is woke

There's a difference between assuming that death manip is based on the state of death because its said to share death then assuming it goes all the way up to the conceptual level, though if you wanted to be pedantic about it then you could theoretically consider all powers a subset of reality warping and conceptual. Extrapolating them to that level is clearly not how things work. Taking an ability described as sharing death as doing what it says is far more reasonable.

Ok, show me a story where 999 just all of a sudden turned part of its body completely slick then. This also doesn't preclude McQueen shoving it with a bench, it can still be moved.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But assuming it indusec death completly indipendent from biological reasons is conceptual manipulation, and still unfounded.

When it was stomped on by 682, it simply went up its leg despite it crushing it to the ground.

Its also nice to see that you ignored that if its the enviroment is the only reason someone can win then it needs to be changed.

Beyond that, shove it where? What will counter low-high regen?

 

[Wokistan]

There's death manip that's neither conceptual nor physical, and its just listed under the generic title of death manip. Unless it can be proven otherwise, H2H is that.

That doesn't have much to do with being restricted from lifting it.

Complain to OP then, fights generally have fighters use their enviromnents to their advantage. Hell, some fictional characters literally only win due to stuff like that.

Central park should have bodies of water deep enough for the incap, since 999 sounds pretty dense from what's on its profile for its dimensions and mass.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No, death manipulation is either concwptual, phisical or soul based.

But it can just pass through whatever he tries to lift it with like he did with the massive paw holding it down

First, others did it is a fallacy on its own, second, the very suggestions you gave would not work due to it being a slime.

No, oil floats on water.

 

[Wokistan]

Yeah, I'm going to want proof of that. Take Liliana for example. No mention of concepts, and her physical damage and soul spells are totally separate. Her deathhax just kinda is.

Does it get intangibility then? Because if not, it's just seeping through the sides of the small pit it got stomped into.

Not sure why slime is now immobile or why using environments to one's advantage is now fallacious.

That's actually not 100% true. A denser oil would still sink, it's just repelled by the water and wouldn't dissolve properly.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

"SCP-999 appears to be a large, amorphous, gelatinous mass of translucent orange slime, weighing about 54 kg (120 lbs) with a consistency similar to that of peanut butter. Subject's size and shape constantly change, though most of the time its form is the size of a large beanbag chair. Composition of SCP-999 is oil-based, but consists of a substance unknown to modern science."

Bean Bag Chair weight-1.75 kg.

SCP-999 weight-54 kg.

Does a Bean Bag Chair float? Not very well. And SCP-999 is much, MUCH denser than a bean bag chair. You put him in a box and chuck him in a lake, and trust me, he is gonna sink.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

No, oil floats on water.

True. But while SCP-999's compisition is oil-based, it consists of a substance unknown to modern science that probably actually won't float based on it's density, 30 times more than a beanbag chair.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

"SCP-999 can be seen crawling up from between SCP-682's toes, up along its side and around its neck, where it clings on and begins gently nuzzling with its pseudopod. A wide grin slowly spreads across SCP-682's face."

SCP-999 isn't intangible. Here, it's acting like play-dough. SCP-682 is reptillian, 999 is merely oozing between it's toes.

 

[Wokistan]

Denser oils don't float, even though they won't be dissolved. Water's surprisingly dense though, and most oils won't surpass that of water.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Dude, are you trying to use science for scp?

And there is nothing stoping it from crawling out of the water, unless there is a waterproof box lying around.

Also, a character loosing for not using hax is acceptable, the need for a character to do something they could never do whitout knowlege of the enemy, would need equipment that is very unlikely to be just laying around and would need to manage to do so before the other character touches him is not acceptable

 

[Wokistan]

Depth and the pressure that deep water exerts on you. Water's heavy, and 999 doesn't have a lifting strength feat.

Death manip still probably works, and seeing a large orange amorphous blob would tip off most people that maybe trying to fight it like you'd fight a human isn't the best idea. Slimes like that don't seem like stuff people would want to be absorbed by, as it's likely malicious.

 

[Wokistan]

Also, you're the one bringing up (incorrect)science, what with the whole "Oil will float" thing. Don't be a hypocrite.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

999 has enough raw strenght to stop a bullet, and dont even try to say its body is capable of doing that.

No, goddamit, NLF. Learn what it means. Also, have you seen what 999 looks like? Not scary for surey and MC always goes for suicide, no exeption.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Holy.... Ricsi! Are we using science for SCP?

SCP is all about trying to apply science and reason to the anomolous! Have you seen the amount of times the Foundation has added new values to different anomolous things like Hume levels? The amount of SCPs that are naught but physics mindbreaking stuff is insane! Of course we would use science for SCP! That is exactly how SCP works!

 

[Wokistan]

Water can exert far more force than a mere bullet. Let me go check the depths of bodies of water in the area real quick.

Death manip probably works, and it doesn't matter if its hilariously OOC if its technically a possibility. I think you're the one who doesn't know what an NLF is, since to you changing tactics when facing something clearly nonhuman is an NLF rather than just a normal course of action.