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The Strongest for Every Tier 15
- Thread starter Celestial_Pegasus
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Can Akron kill Hathor (Shin Megami Tensei)?
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He blitzes and incapacitates her I believe.
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He still Power Nulls iirc.
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Also I made a mistake, she's faster than him as a High 4-C. But he's only the strongest Speed Equal High 4-C.
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Remember to add Sirzechs on 6-C tier. On a side note since Sirzechs tier is "at least 6-C likely far higher" would that count towards high 6-C aswell or only 6-C.
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Only 6-C.
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What's his passive?
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Hmm idk, it "may" be the case. I mean he needs to be at least Mid Godly regen to hope for anything at all, though Sirzechs can get himself Incap via the aura as he could literally stand near him and cause incap for as long as he lives (and devils live for freaking eternity). Also Sirzechs is non corporeal in his true form. Unless im missing some sexy hax from Devilmon that trash Sirzechs it can go either way due to Sirzechs' passive.Dragonmasterxyz said:
Though ty for the info on the 6-C.
And @Weekly. Galio would lose sadly, as magic and demonic powers are different stuff in DxD, like they work much differently so i doubt it would count. But even if he did count, physically Sirzechs should take it, he literally slapped an island level attack (which is why he is "likely far higher").
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How does one erase something that doesn't exist? Also all Digimon can hit non-corporeals, so that isn't an issue.
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@Fire Galio nulls pretty much anything supernatural, magic and demons are two different things in LoL too
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Technically hes high 6-bKaltias said:
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5 Gigatons currently but hes about to be upgraded to High 6-B
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Isn't he 6-C against magic?
And as i said Galio would still get AP overwhelmed. I can make the fight if you want doe.
@Dragonmastery
They are physically nonexistent, from what the "soul manipulation" says, he can interact with the souls of other digimon, which means they have a soul. His soul would still be desintegrated.
And as i said Galio would still get AP overwhelmed. I can make the fight if you want doe.
@Dragonmastery
They are physically nonexistent, from what the "soul manipulation" says, he can interact with the souls of other digimon, which means they have a soul. His soul would still be desintegrated.
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Also idk that many ppl on 10-A tier but i'd say Ryuk can take it via invisibility, immortality type 4, nigh-invincibility, intangability and fate + death manipulation.
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Not all Digimon are nonexistent tho? Only Dark Area natives. So yeah, if course he can interact with the souls of existant Digimon. Devimon's soul is nonexistent.b
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It clearly says "physically" doe. Like it actually says "nonexistent physically". It wouldn't apply to his soul and/or consciousness.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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That's not what it means. Dark Area Digimon are made up of already deleted data. Meaning their minds, bodies and souls are already nonexistent as they are already erased from existence. Unless you have feats of effecting a nonexistent, it won't work.Firephoenixearl said:
Also from our Nonexistent Physiology page.
- Physical Nonexistence: Physically nonexistent beings don't physically exist on the material plane. While they can be thought of and remembered and they may even have a visible, physical form, they cannot be harmed by conventional means due to already being "nonexistent". Some of these beings may also be intangible or non-corporeal, allowing them to pass through other objects.
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Well yes like "physical nonexistence". Physical nonexistence (in the page) says that it is physically non existent, so it's non-corporeal or intangable (both of which can be destroyed by Sirzechs btw), but it says nothing about them being completely non existent in soul or consciousness. It only talks about nonexistence on a physical level.
Though if his Physical Nonexistence means he's non corporeal than Sirzechs will still destroy it as PoD is able to destroy non corporeal or intangable beings (in the profile).
Though if his Physical Nonexistence means he's non corporeal than Sirzechs will still destroy it as PoD is able to destroy non corporeal or intangable beings (in the profile).
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It's literally mentioned on his page that Devimon is resistant to Mind and Soul hax due to the very fact he's a Dark Area Digimon whose Soul and Mind are already deleted data. Show me a feat of Sirzechs destroying something made of complete nothingness.
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Oh missed that part. Well rn i can't exactly think of him erasing complete nothingness.Dragonmasterxyz said:
Things get tricky then (never thought i'd rely on anything other than passive for sirzechs this quick), since Sirzechs can win via BFR to another dimension, so i don't think it's ok to keep discussing it here.
Sirzechs can't be high 6-C via his tier anyway so i guess that's that.
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Who said so?ALRF said:
He created a dimensional gap via sheer strength. Getting ppl in there would count as BFR (they literally BFR'd trihexia). It's not BFR on his profile it's spatial manipulation, though it can be used as BFR.
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Good job at saying what actually happened
Sirzech with the help of other leaders sealed Trihexa alongisde themselves in the Isolation Barrier Field not via dimensional gap
"The other side is a specialised sealing field. It's called the [Isolation Barrier Field]. It incorporates the technology of the Rating Games, the secret techniques of the [Game] that Ajuka Beelzebub designed, Heaven's Sacred Gear system, the System of God which is responsible for miracles, Rossweisse's research on barrier techniques, the principles of the Nordic Yggdrasil [2], as well as the research results that the Grigori has accumulated over the years; all of it has been integrated together to produce a single world. Put in simple terms, it is the product of all of our research to design a cage exclusively for Trihexa. However, Rossweisse has no idea about what we're going to do with it. If she found out about it, she would definitely be in opposition."
And that's not even a tactic he really uses.
Sirzech with the help of other leaders sealed Trihexa alongisde themselves in the Isolation Barrier Field not via dimensional gap
"The other side is a specialised sealing field. It's called the [Isolation Barrier Field]. It incorporates the technology of the Rating Games, the secret techniques of the [Game] that Ajuka Beelzebub designed, Heaven's Sacred Gear system, the System of God which is responsible for miracles, Rossweisse's research on barrier techniques, the principles of the Nordic Yggdrasil [2], as well as the research results that the Grigori has accumulated over the years; all of it has been integrated together to produce a single world. Put in simple terms, it is the product of all of our research to design a cage exclusively for Trihexa. However, Rossweisse has no idea about what we're going to do with it. If she found out about it, she would definitely be in opposition."
And that's not even a tactic he really uses.
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Trihexia is another deal.
Spatial Manipulation (Easily made a large hole in space creating a "dimensional gap" when playing as Satan Red)
My point on the Trihexia was to say that they used the same concept to defeat trihexia. The BFR to another dimension though the IBF was created in 7 different places of the world in order to catch all 7 heads of trihexia. The reason they created the IBF instead of going to the dimensional gap is explained later on is because the Dimensional Gap would kill most ppl (idk if it would kil sirzechs in his true form though since he's non corporeal) and it would be impossible to send supplies to the dimensional gap. The fight would last for 10'000 at a bare minimum, they needed supplies and also the need to communicate with the outside.
"That's not a tactic he really uses"
When you need a tactic other than "destroy the bastard" when you are arguably the single strongest being in the world (Ophis, Great Red and Trihexia aside as they don't fight). This guy goes around threatening the strongest gods just by showing his true form (doesn't even fight them, he just shows his true form and he's done), why would he need to resort to anything else?
Spatial Manipulation (Easily made a large hole in space creating a "dimensional gap" when playing as Satan Red)
My point on the Trihexia was to say that they used the same concept to defeat trihexia. The BFR to another dimension though the IBF was created in 7 different places of the world in order to catch all 7 heads of trihexia. The reason they created the IBF instead of going to the dimensional gap is explained later on is because the Dimensional Gap would kill most ppl (idk if it would kil sirzechs in his true form though since he's non corporeal) and it would be impossible to send supplies to the dimensional gap. The fight would last for 10'000 at a bare minimum, they needed supplies and also the need to communicate with the outside.
"That's not a tactic he really uses"
When you need a tactic other than "destroy the bastard" when you are arguably the single strongest being in the world (Ophis, Great Red and Trihexia aside as they don't fight). This guy goes around threatening the strongest gods just by showing his true form (doesn't even fight them, he just shows his true form and he's done), why would he need to resort to anything else?
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Physical Non existence = Sirzech can't do anythings on the physical plane
just for saying
just for saying
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Well sirzechs isn't limited to the physical plane as he can mess with the mind, destroy souls, consciousness etc. I didn't know they lacked a soul and mind aswell doe.The Causality said:
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Yeah i'm just saying for the physical plane not the other
But the major Non existent characters from the site lack of existence (Soul, mind, body ect..) so it's almost impossible for beat them without feat or conceptual/Dimensional things
But the major Non existent characters from the site lack of existence (Soul, mind, body ect..) so it's almost impossible for beat them without feat or conceptual/Dimensional things
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Conceptual stuff would affect them? I mean what kind of conceptual power would it take to beat one?The Causality said:
Example. Normal EE won't work on them as they don't exist, what about conceptual EE would that make a difference? (im talking about how would the site treat this stuff)
Also you don't rly need anything like that. I mean some sort of power null or something that affects them without needing to touch them should work (example a passive Bookmaker that doesn't need a screw) or a will manipulating one (despite being non existent they should still techincally have a will).
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Isn't he 6-C against magic?
No hes 6-C against basically anything with supernatural powers, creatures such as dragons which arent outwardly magic have been severely weakened by the aame material that hes made of. And again demons and magic are two different things in LoL too. And Galio is getting upgraded to High 6-B
No hes 6-C against basically anything with supernatural powers, creatures such as dragons which arent outwardly magic have been severely weakened by the aame material that hes made of. And again demons and magic are two different things in LoL too. And Galio is getting upgraded to High 6-B
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I mean, if he doesn't exist, we just need to Erase him from "the concept of Non existence" and Ciao
But Conceptual Erasure won't work, how erase conceptualy the Existence of a things who doesn't exist? you can't,.
But nah, PNull or haxxes like that won't work, Non Existent = No Existence of you, empathic or not, you won't exist (but if you have feat for affecting Non Existent characters, it's fine but without feat, nah)
It's difficult to understand and trust but this is a Non Existent Characters that does not make any sense
But Conceptual Erasure won't work, how erase conceptualy the Existence of a things who doesn't exist? you can't,.
But nah, PNull or haxxes like that won't work, Non Existent = No Existence of you, empathic or not, you won't exist (but if you have feat for affecting Non Existent characters, it's fine but without feat, nah)
It's difficult to understand and trust but this is a Non Existent Characters that does not make any sense
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His AP increases depending on what he's fighting? So if he's fighting a devil his AP becomes 6-C?WeeklyBattles said:
Want me to make Galio vs Sirzechs or wanna discuss it here (it's not rly gonna take long). I mean Sirzechs would take it via speed and BFR into the dimensional gap.
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Btw what happens if there is a triangle in this case?
So example.
In tier high 6-C. X beats Y, but Y beats Z and Z beats X. Who would get the spot?
So example.
In tier high 6-C. X beats Y, but Y beats Z and Z beats X. Who would get the spot?
