The Season 9 MLP FIM premier

[MinatoSparkle]

So, season 9 just started and wow, were a lot of things introduced, both in terms of story and for this site. To mention a few, Discord is now confirmed way stronger than Sombra, The Mane 6 can do friendship magic on their own, Grogar was introduced, I believe the fact that Tirek was grown to that exact size by Grogar's magic suggests he's about on par with Chrysalis in that form (though that's complete headcanon, even if it dsoes make sense), the feats shown seem to suggest Starswirl IS stronger than the royal sisters, and Sombra and Discord showed a few new abilities.

 

[Phoenix821]

It was a pretty good premier.

 

[Js250476]

Yes Sombra needs an update as does Discord and other characters

It was an awesome premiere as well.

 

[Phoenix821]

Would the girls get resistence to mind manip.

 

[Js250476]

From memory Sombra should have mind manipulation teleportation and some limited flight via turning into smoke.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Also, I still think Cozy Glow should get a profile of some kind. And obviously Grogar.

 

[Phoenix821]

She should be at lest MCB, higher with prep.

 

[Js250476]

I agree about Grogar but i'd Wait til likely the season finale where we'll see him in action.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I agree about Grogar but i'd Wait til likely the season finale where we'll see him in action.

We know he's at least 4-C, because a tiny amount of his magic made Tirek his post-pegasi self, and considering how he was treated, it seems like he's probably stronger than Tirek at his maximum. Especially is he's the father of all monsters. Then he's almost certainly High 4-C, and depending on how literal it is, maybe even 4-B.

 

[Js250476]

Well I'm perfectly fine If someone makes a profile for him now or soon.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I'm just unsure if it should be done before someone who usually does these things show up.

 

[Js250476]

How should we treat Twilight matching Sombra for a bit near the end?

 

[Phoenix821]

4-C with Friendship.

 

[Js250476]

Well Friendship is Magic ovo.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

How should we treat Twilight matching Sombra for a bit near the end?

Well, since she is almsot as strong as Starswirl, and Starswirl was shown as superior to the pony sisters in destroying the vines, it kinda makes sense.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

To be fair, Twilight was buffed by the power of a rousing speech

I think Twily just scaling now is fine.

 

[Lightbuster30]

To be fair, Twilight was buffed by the power of a rousing speech
I think Twily just scaling now is fine.

And Swirlstar the Bearded?

 

[Phoenix821]

To be fair, Twilight was buffed by the power of a rousing speechI think Twily just scaling now is fine.

Discord's rousing speech of Heroism.

 

[Js250476]

And he thinks the speech was for nothing smh.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Discord was so salty at the end.

 

[Js250476]

Btw Rarity can now fire magic blasts from her horn.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I really hope the Equestria Girls actually ream up with the Mane Six against Grogar... Because it would be rather entertaining to see such a thing... Also I really want to see where they are on the scale of things...

And honestly Grogar being tier 4 is legitimate.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I really hope the Equestria Girls actually ream up with the Mane Six against Grogar... Because it would be rather entertaining to see such a thing... Also I really want to see where they are on the scale of things...
And honestly Grogar being tier 4 is legitimate.

Not gonna happen sadly. As it wouldn't make sense for those who didn't watch EQG.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Btw Rarity can now fire magic blasts from her horn.

It seems any able bodied unicorn can,

 

[Js250476]

Was anyone else hyped by the MLP legion of Doom at the start?

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Yes, that was awesome to see and exactly what I wanted. A bunch of the former villains teaming up. Also, anyone else notice that Chrysalis seems to have gone insane at the beginning?

 

[Phoenix821]

She already showed signs of it in S8.

 

[Js250476]

She's literally ranting to a log.

And then later "say something nice about ponies, never!"

It's hard not to pity her.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Well she won't accept the Religion of Friendship into her heart so she'll have her heathenous ways for awhile.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Yes, that was awesome to see and exactly what I wanted. A bunch of the former villains teaming up. Also, anyone else notice that Chrysalis seems to have gone insane at the beginning?

She was brimming with self-awareness and self-control beforehand.


To bad Fiendship is Magic was the most thoroughly retconned comic series of them all. I think every issue has been retconned by now!

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Hey Darkanine, what do you think of these revisions?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Bump.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I said in the main thread (I think) I'm fine with Starswirl and Twily being bumped to 4-C since Twily matched Sombra, and Starswirl is presumably still slightly stronger than her.

Where there any other revisions?

 

[Phoenix821]

There may be some abiltiy additions.

 

[Js250476]

Sombra needs new abilities. Off the top of my head teleportation and limited flight and telekinesis and some energy protection ( if he doesn't already).

 

[Phoenix821]

Starswirl has Self levitation.

Discord has that thing he did.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

That might just be Spatial Manip.

 

[Lightbuster30]

I said in the main thread (I think) I'm fine with Starswirl and Twily being bumped to 4-C since Twily matched Sombra, and Starswirl is presumably still slightly stronger than her.
Where there any other revisions?

Should Grogar be at least Low 4-C possibly 4-C? A tiny amount of his magic got Tirek to his pre-pagsai state, which he didn't reach until absorbing the magic of nearly every Unciorn in Equestria.

Oh, and since Twilight is scaling to 4-C again, this puts All-Aicorn Twilight and those above her at High 4-C.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Back to being the weakest High 4-Cs again. Remind me again why Nightmare Moon isn't counted as having moved those stars? An ecplise granting you the power to escape is one thing, 4 stars just randomly gravitating towards the moon is something completely different. It's not a specific cosmological event like an eclipse.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I said in the main thread (I think) I'm fine with Starswirl and Twily being bumped to 4-C since Twily matched Sombra, and Starswirl is presumably still slightly stronger than her.
Where there any other revisions?

Should Grogar be at least Low 4-C possibly 4-C? A tiny amount of his magic got Tirek to his pre-pagsai state, which he didn't reach until absorbing the magic of nearly every Unciorn in Equestria.
Oh, and since Twilight is scaling to 4-C again, this puts All-Aicorn Twilight and those above her at High 4-C.

I mean, it's common sense that if all the villains respect him greatly, he should at least be 4-C, especially because he made Tirek, Cozy Glow, and Chrsyalis genuinely unsettled at the end of the episode. And he's the final villain (presumably), so he's probably High 4-C, as Twilight's boost makes her strongest form easily High 4-C.