The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

[Tomfer]

Also interesting feat I saw that I figured I'd share.

Captain America has good enough senses to smell Taskmasters image inducer

(He also refers to Tasky as “A-list as they come” which is further proof he’s a consistent threat to him)

Wasn't Taskmaster created to be a Cap villain or something?

 

[Abscoolguy]

Just wondering if it's ever considered for Captain Britain (main one, Brian Braddock) to get a profile since he has a lot of stuff but I was surprised to find out he's not indexed. One of his main villains (Mad Jim Jaspers) is but not him. In general though where abouts would he scale?

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Never mind then, but the mention about harming Toranos on her own is inaccurate and should be removed.

Is somebody willing to handle this please?

 

[Antvasima]

Just wondering if it's ever considered for Captain Britain (main one, Brian Braddock) to get a profile since he has a lot of stuff but I was surprised to find out he's not indexed. One of his main villains (Mad Jim Jaspers) is but not him. In general though where abouts would he scale?

I think that seems like a good idea. His wife, Meggan, is not indexed either.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Wasn't Taskmaster created to be a Cap villain or something?

He was introduced as just a general villain to the Avengers iirc. Idk if he was ever meant to belong to anyone's rogue gallery in particular. He's probably fought Captain America more often than the others though, a fact he even highlights in some issues:

"Hell, I've made a career out of taking a poke at Captain America"

Semi-related, but I also feel that Tasky should logically be relative to the likes of Crossbones, as Taskmaster is the one who trained him. Just more justification IMO.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Semi-related, but I also feel that Tasky should logically be relative to the likes of Crossbones, as Taskmaster is the one who trained him. Just more justification IMO.

Taskmaster also taught Jessica Drew Spider woman, teaching someone doesn't quite count as a feat

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Taskmaster also taught Jessica Drew Spider woman, teaching someone doesn't quite count as a feat

Taskmaster trained Jessica when she was younger, far less experienced, and hadn't mastered her powers, so I don't think it's particularly inconsistent. She was weak enough at that point that Taskmaster could crumple her in a single blow.

I think there's a difference between that, and Taskmaster bringing Brock from a lowlife to someone who can legitimately contend with Captain America.

 

[Abscoolguy]

I think that seems like a good idea. His wife, Meggan, is not indexed either.

Do you know how strong he could be? I've seen some of his feats and they're mixed

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Do you know how strong he could be? I've seen some of his feats and they're mixed

Similar to Meggan: Has some consistent feats (Captain America/Spider-Man tier) but others are extremely ridiculous (tanking blows and keeping up with Cosmic Entities)
Meggan's absorption powers only had an upper limit when facing the Chaos Wave, but she absorbed the powers of the Realm of The Beyonders without issue.

Speaking of, the Chaos Wave depicted as of Captain Britain's interpretation that Wanda created is why I believe the Chaos Wave / House of M Wanda should be way stronger than how they are currently tiered. They made it absurdly obvious that it was High 1-A in that depiction, especially with completely overpowering an Meggan that had absorbed the power of the Beyonders to try and face it.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Taskmaster trained Jessica when she was younger, far less experienced, and hadn't mastered her powers, so I don't think it's particularly inconsistent. She was weak enough at that point that Taskmaster could crumple her in a single blow.

Being inexperienced doesn't make her physically weaker

 

[Antvasima]

Well, Captain Britain is officially supposed to be roughly evenly matched with Wonder Man and The Thing, both according to the Marvel handbooks and having directly fought Wonder Man in the past.

And I think that Meggan managed to save the Marvel multiverse from the Chaos Wave, and she also successfully copied the powers of the Silver Surfer. Didn't she also beat Blackheart in personal combat?

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Being inexperienced doesn't make her physically weaker

Having no physical training due to having never fought before would make her physically weaker than she is now, I imagine. But like, it doesn't really matter regardless. Either we assume that She was weaker before she was trained in combat, or that its simply inconsistent that Taskmaster could physically contend with her.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Having no physical training due to having never fought before would make her physically weaker than she is now, I imagine. But like, it doesn't really matter regardless. Either we assume that She was weaker before she was trained in combat, or that its simply inconsistent that Taskmaster could physically contend with her.

Outskilling someone is very common in comics, it makes it seem like they can even be relative to some extent but ultimately outskilling is not the same as overpowering.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Outskilling someone is very common in comics, it makes it seem like they can even be relative to some extent but ultimately outskilling is not the same as overpowering.

I know he outskilled her in that instance, yeah. But that doesn't make it any less of an inconsistency for him to knock her down so easily. Taskmaster can't usually drop Spider-Man tier characters without preparation or his weaponry.

They're too durable for that, typically.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I know he outskilled her in that instance, yeah. But that doesn't make it any less of an inconsistency for him to knock her down so easily. Taskmaster can't usually drop Spider-Man tier characters without preparation or his weaponry.

They're too durable for that, typically.

Exactly my point.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

The next project I had was to maybe give the main Cosmology, a 0 rating, however, I'm unsure. While the Marvel Godhead is ambiguous, a certain story such as Strange: Fall of Sunrise gives a surprising interpretation of Bythos which may be the new highest in the Cosmology that's actually defined.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

The next project I had was to maybe give the main Cosmology, a 0 rating, however, I'm unsure. While the Marvel Godhead is ambiguous, a certain story such as Strange: Fall of Sunrise gives a surprising interpretation of Bythos which may be the new highest in the Cosmology that's actually defined.

Please enlighten me. I'm most curious.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Please enlighten me. I'm most curious.

Sadly, it's not going to be 0 due to some inconsistent factors.

So the character Bythos is obviously based on the Gnostics' view of the Supreme, of the same name. As it is the source of divinity and the fullness of the Godhead is called Pleroma(Pleoma in the story).

However, there's a caveat. Tradd Moore may have gotten inspiration from Gnocistim, but obviously, he left a lot that's different from it. In the story, Bythos and Sophia are the progenitors and originators of “All That Is.” Together the two also conceived twelve children called the Aeon, which isn't what Gnostics adhere to since the origin story of Aeon was that their divinity was born from the source of the Divinity(Pleroma of the Bythos) and Sophia is the lowest Aeon but the story depicts the two as some sort of mutual being.

Plus, the story clearly states the dualistic personification of all there is are those two. With Bythos ruling over and representing the Realm of Ideas and Sophia, the Realm of Shapes. So with that in mind, the Realm of Ideas is where everything including Abtracts(I believe) has their true abstraction. Hence why I believe Bythos and by extension, Sophia scale above all the Abstracts. I think they have the potential to be near the One Above All in power. So in the nonchanged current hierarchy, they'd be maybe near Phoneix or the Never Queen in power and hierarchy.

 

[Excellence616]

Please enlighten me. I'm most curious.

Still planning a Franklin Richards upgrade?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

I, personally, plan to add a CRT again for all the character tiering. That includes Franklin Richards.

 

[Abscoolguy]

Did anyone notice on Kang's profile he has this feat on range

Range: Standard Melee Range, Varies up to Outerversal with technology (Using his technology, Pip and Starfox were able to travel to a realm beyond Astral Regulator Thanos' reach[43])

It links to Thanos' page but Thanos' page doesn't have the Astral Regulator key anymore

 

[Scourge_8]

Is anyone here knowledgeable about agent venom by any chance?

 

[Genericstickman]

Did anyone notice on Kang's profile he has this feat on range



It links to Thanos' page but Thanos' page doesn't have the Astral Regulator key anymore

we don't consider that canon to the mainline continuity now do we?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

we don't consider that canon to the mainline continuity now do we?

Pretty sure, we don't but if we did it'd be equal to the Universal True Form of the Tribunal.

 

[Eseseso]

we don't consider that canon to the mainline continuity now do we?

Nope.

 

[Antvasima]

Did anyone notice on Kang's profile he has this feat on range

It links to Thanos' page but Thanos' page doesn't have the Astral Regulator key anymore

Yes. That needs to be removed.

 

[Tyranno223]

Thor's ridiculous energy absorption seems to be an oddly consistent thing in modern comics. Sure he could absorb it before, but he consistently powers himself up from it fhese days.

 

[AcidSilver]

That is a very big forcefield what the ****

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/800123760182689893/1273429956533293118/image.png?ex=66be9590&is=66bd4410&hm=cbe0345298d5c5e6a82bcbac37404d5976ae5b05ac2e08816c7734e30b7ab2ab&

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

That is a very big forcefield what the ****

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/800123760182689893/1273429956533293118/image.png?ex=66be9590&is=66bd4410&hm=cbe0345298d5c5e6a82bcbac37404d5976ae5b05ac2e08816c7734e30b7ab2ab&

Or a very small Earth.

 

[Tomfer]

That proves that Marvel's Earth is smaller than irl Earth, let's downgrade all 5-Bs to 9-B.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

That proves that Marvel's Earth is smaller than irl Earth, let's downgrade all 5-Bs to 9-B.

Agreed.

 

[ByAsura]

Marvel is weak and overrated. High 1-A Doctor Who is where it's at.

 

[Tomfer]

Michael Bay's Skibidi Toilet on his way to surpass Mid Comics and Boring Who into High 1-A.

 

[Tyranno223]

Marvel is weak and overrated. High 1-A Doctor Who is where it's at.

Dr Who, Narnia, and LotR. Britain be rising.

 

[Abscoolguy]

Marvel is weak and overrated. High 1-A Doctor Who is where it's at.

facts tbh...

 

[Abscoolguy]

Dr Who, Narnia, and LotR. Britain be rising.

Warhammer is also pretty strong which is British too

 

[AcidSilver]

We need to add this to Thor’s list of powers

 

[Tomfer]

https://media.**********.net/attachments/1033989909855350815/1273425339703496724/image.png?ex=66be9144&is=66bd3fc4&hm=4d84d69f95bf75e814d9ed701dba97d3b0fc7dd1ffef1a9f8dbeffdfc3001aa7&

We need to add this to Thor’s list of powers

Bro, I love this goofy guy.

 

[Antvasima]

I also like both Thor and Hercules, as long as a writer does not turn them dark and mean at least.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

i like hercules such a loveable goof in marvel flawed yet trying his best