The current argument is that in most of DD and Punisher's stories, they're portrayed as peak human, a more realistic character in terms of strength when in comparison to his fellow street levels that are clearly supers, like Cap and Wolverine. So there is a difference.
I guess it would be more accurate to say I think more characters should be 8-C. If we deem Daredevil and Punisher as 9-B due to their more consistent feats and scaling in that area, that is understandable.
Because that's just a placeholder from the MHS+ downgrade, there were a few more HS feats but they're still uncalculated. And yes, I find stupid everyone scaling from Elektra, she's clearly faster than most of other characters.
That's why I said most characters can be made a case. Moon Knight and Taskmaster for example, they're make far more sense as 8-C nowadays. I can get behind that.
And Wade has beaten Taskmaster too
Beating TM once shouldn't be the justification for his 8-C, at best should be "Comparable to Wolverine."
Obviously.
You lost me at "Superior to Taskmaster," lmao.
Carnage, Red Skull, Thanos, Apocalypse, Mystique, Mister Sinister, Dormammu, Mephisto, Nightmare, Shuma-Gorath, Sabretooth, Ultron, The Marquis of Death, Knull, Cthon, Set, Seth, Selene, and Dario Agger.
Amazing Spider-man Vol 2 (by Straczynski only) and Amazing Spider-man Vol 3 are a good start, but truth be told... Just grab what you find nice and go with it. It's how I started.
Thanks man I’ll start it in some time
So we have High 1-A Thor, High 1-A Storm, and Iron Man might get a High 1-A armor forged in the White Hot Room.
I think she also helped Thor fight the Elder God Toranos, and when she was in an uncontrollable rage her storm threatened to break Yggdrasil
She also at least pressured him with gravity (where Thor then gave his lovely speech)
Rage thing is true, she did help Thor but only due to Thor letting her us mjolnir
The gravity of jupiter so that’s more of an anti feat tbh
That example should be removed from her VSBW profile page though. She could do nothing to harm Toranos, even with a power-up from Mjolnir added to her innate power.
Was that tangibly proven, or is it speculation?
That was a case of Al Ewing powering down Thor, not a case of him powering up Storm. Thor suddenly had a hard time withstanding gravity only comparable to that of Jupiter, and then shrugged it off and was unaffected a few seconds later.
nah it actually happened
Last I remember, I think Ultima said that all 1-B gods will be upgraded to 1-A. So yeah?
no it was about HIgh 1A for the elder gods
But the elder gods are H1-B, right?
Nah, even Khoshu and Seth are High 1-A
They will be in the future, but they are not right now.
I think that these examples should probably be removed from Storm's profile page.
Um no, she literally has to call the storm off before it harms Yggdrasil or expand to outer realms in the next issue
Okay. Never mind then, but the mention about harming Toranos on her own is inaccurate and should be removed.
Late but, I'd also like to say that Deadpool beating Taskmaster isn't even that consistent. In fact, we've seen on more than one occasion that Tasky can pretty much skill stomp him.
