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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

Tomfer said:
Udlmaster currently reworking on him
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Tier 5/3 and MFTL+ Base Wolverine is never gonna fly
 
Tomfer said:
For Storm, I don't have an opinion since I don't really like X-men

But for Wolverine, Udlmaster currently reworking on him and I, personally, disagree.

And for the high hypersonic, that's just a off-comment I personally believe.
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1. Neutral on High 3-A but this will have a lot of scaling ramifications and Efi will never agree to it. Same with MFTL+ for Base.
2. Low 1-A keys look good.
3. If his skeleton survived a timeline collapsing, that's likely Low 2-C durability for his skeleton.
 
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Hello, this will be just a brief, straightforward thread. Based on the new Marvel revisions, I humbly ask for a few of my Iron Man armor sandboxes to be reviewed and approved for publishing: Model 61 (Godkiller MK ll) Model 72 (Celestial Hulkbuster) The scans and sources are all provided in...
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Tomfer said:
For Storm, I don't have an opinion since I don't really like X-men

But for Wolverine, Udlmaster currently reworking on him and I, personally, disagree.

And for the high hypersonic, that's just a off-comment I personally believe.
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His scaling to Thor is iffy.
High Universe level (Alongside others, was able to defeat Onslaught.
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@Udlmaster Is this his physical Armor or his insides or this was when he can back after his defeat as Red Onslaught?
 
Gasper said:
How many universes would Heralds scale to?

I remember umar (who is not a Herald but still) shaking two universes or something like that and hulk having the power of two universes, so that's baseline 2-C, does anyone have anything higher than that?
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What of baby thor shaking the 9 realms everytime he cried? Although the panel specifically states he shook the world tree and every realm, if shaking yggdrasil is going to be taken as an outlier, can't it just be interpreted as he only shook the 9 realms
 
Kage said:
What of baby thor shaking the 9 realms everytime he cried? Although the panel specifically states he shook the world tree and every realm, if shaking yggdrasil is going to be taken as an outlier, can't it just be interpreted as he only shook the 9 realms
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The panel explicitly says that it's both Yggdrasil and all its Realms.

Also, it's not an outlier. It just scales to Thor's life essence, not his usual stats
 
Kage said:
I know, I said that, but for the sake of using it
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It's either use the whole feat or don't use it at all
Kage said:
Wdym?
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Thor (Marvel Comics)

Thor Odinson is the Asgardian God of Thunder, a founding member of the Avengers, and the son of Odin, the All-Father of Asgard, and Gaea, the Elder Earth-Goddess. Combining the power of both worlds, and armed with his powerful enchanted hammer Mjolnir, Thor is arguably the greatest and mightiest...
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A Small Thor Update
 
Marvel_Champion_07 said:
It's either use the whole feat or don't use it at all

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Thor (Marvel Comics)

Thor Odinson is the Asgardian God of Thunder, a founding member of the Avengers, and the son of Odin, the All-Father of Asgard, and Gaea, the Elder Earth-Goddess. Combining the power of both worlds, and armed with his powerful enchanted hammer Mjolnir, Thor is arguably the greatest and mightiest...
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A Small Thor Update
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Ninja'd :mad:
 
Marvel_Champion_07 said:
It's either use the whole feat or don't use it at all

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Thor (Marvel Comics)

Thor Odinson is the Asgardian God of Thunder, a founding member of the Avengers, and the son of Odin, the All-Father of Asgard, and Gaea, the Elder Earth-Goddess. Combining the power of both worlds, and armed with his powerful enchanted hammer Mjolnir, Thor is arguably the greatest and mightiest...
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A Small Thor Update
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Okay thanks
 
Eseseso said:
1. Just curious, is an individual timeline Low 1-A or just Low 2-C for Marvel?
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Like, the individual realms inside Eternity vary dimensionality-wise, but as a rule of thumb: The Earth Dimension is Low 2-C, as are similar realms, but if you're talking about a "timeline" as in, a whole branch of the multiverse, that's Low 1-A.

Eseseso said:
2. Will you be adding tiers eventually so that people out of the loop know what each part of the cosmology scales to?
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Probably.
 
I reread the Daydreamers Comic just to be sure. This was the Dark Stalker (Franklin's Subconscious Sadness of losing his family) talking to Franklin directly:
"All of this was projected from your unconscious. Even the Man-Thing's words came from you. He was your familiar. His connection to the Nexus allowed you to use him to mold your dreams. This is why he was dying. He could not contain the energies you were channeling through him"

This seems pretty blatant. Man-Thing was dying from the very energies Franklin was channeling through him, while shown in other DeMatteis works, such as Strange Tales and Spider-Man Annual 1999, he has no problem channeling High 1-A energies through him such as Adam Ka'dmon, the Nexus, The Staff of the Divine Creator, and the Fallen Stars, all at the same time. Keep in mind a singular fragment of the Nexus superchaged Silver Surfer enough to oneshot Adam Ka'dmon, so the energies of the entire Nexus and the amps it gives one is quite potent.

It also seems to be a subconscious, casual feat, because Franklin was doing it to Man-Thing the entire time, completely unaware he was even doing it.
 
Eseseso said:
Since God Emperor Doom has some of the power of the Beyonders, I think he should have the same P&A as them (including those of the Cosmic Cube and OG Beyonder), with obvious exceptions such as Large Size, Abstract Existence, Transduality, and NEP.

Thoughts?
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IdiosyncraticLawyer said:
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Thoughts? Other staff thoughts would also be appreciated.

Also, for Doom's 3-C prep/tech section, I feel that his absorption of the Silver Surfer's power (Fantastic Four #57-60), being his most iconic Herald level feat by a mile (and we already list the P&A for it on his profile) should be mentioned in the 3-C section for sure. Also, his actual Power Cosmic P&A section should have all the P&A of the Silver Surfer, for obvious reasons. It has a good chunk but not all of them, so it should just link to SS's page.

Thoughts on this?
 
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AcidSilver said:
Do we know how much energy Carol has to absorb to go Binary? Even just a general range? Since the latest X-Men annual had a Cyclops who was going all out made Carol go Binary with a single blast.
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I can tell that there is no clear range, most of the times she goes binary is a white hole which is not quantifiable, and lately it got even more inconsistent for example while Carol herself is in "base mode" she made an "avatar" that was in Binary mode, another example is from sometime ago while she was still Ms. Marvel she went straight up to Binary without any amp or white hole simple because the alien Cru somehow activated through her DNA. She already went Binary by absorbing energy from Blue Marvel which in the wiki is 5-B yet recently she stated to have enough energy to melt a hole in a star and fought cosmic ghost rider and she was in base.
She doesnt even has a Binary key anymore it was blended in with modern captain marvel.
She even got an upgrade from being experimented by Brood again (a few months back in Kelly Thomson) and got a new "white mode" that was supposedly casually emitting so much energy that she was about to go Supernova and create a black hole.
 
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