The Planeswalker (Magic: The Gathering) vs Nobody (BlazBlue) - 5th Strongest Low 2-C

[Theglassman12]

How her passives passively fight for her? She literally has no control over her power of Phenomena Intervention, it warps all of reality and just does anything and everything, literally anything PI has, that's done passively since it's out of control.

@ActuallySpaceMan literally as soon as the fight starts. Being near the presence of the embryo is enough for PI to take affect.

 

[Delta333]

Nobody erases FRA

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Tbh, I want this argument to be over with, as I've invested too much time in it, so Imma turn on ya real quick, I already know that he's going to say something like instant and you explain that instants in magic happen before hand, but something that instants can't do is react to something that is already down on the board, meaning that, the passives can't be countered, and they can't be reacted to before they take effect, if this was a passive that could be toggled on or off, than an instant would work by saying basically "Hey before you do that, I tap two to negate it", but if it's not toggleable, then the passive comes into play essentially already in play at the very start of things, and would be impossible to react to before taking effect as it already took effect before the start of the fight

This is actually interesting.

Because Leyline of Anticipation is technically on the field before the game begins. We can be under the assumption both of them start with these passives in play that means the Planeswalker would be able to cast anything at Flash Speed. We can't really use the game mechanic here since instants arent always in reaction. Their link to priority and since this isn't turned based technically no one has priority.

At the same time, the Planeswalker's first move would obviously be playing spells, so if his first move is playing a spell faster than Infinite Speed, and her Passives are already activated at Zero-Time then one is still happening faster than the other. One is happening somehow before Zero-Time and the other is happening in Zero-Time.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Technically you could give both of them priority at the same time but then it would still be down to a battle of who strikes first which is basically guaranteed to be the Planeswalker.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

How her passives passively fight for her? She literally has no control over her power of Phenomena Intervention, it warps all of reality and just does anything and everything, literally anything PI has, that's done passively since it's out of control.

@ActuallySpaceMan literally as soon as the fight starts. Being near the presence of the embryo is enough for PI to take affect.

this... seems like plain out the kind of writing that I dislike, it's just too much to be any character I'd actually have an interest in, but if that's the case, then she wins by... I don't even know... just... WUT?

Yeah, Nobody FRA

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Yeah honestly this is going to go nowhere so I'll vote Nobody FRA, I need to make a CRT for this.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yeah honestly this is going to go nowhere so I'll vote Nobody FRA, I need to make a CRT for this.

And also to unfuck the rest of MtG's Laundry list of ****** things

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

And also to unfuck the rest of MtG's Laundry list of ****** things

Ya, I have a lot of profiles I need to redo, but for CRT I wanna for a consensus about how game mechanics in MTG translate to vs battle so half of it isn't debating how this stuff works mid battle.

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

off to look for another post now

 

[Harith0cell]

Nobody win

 

[Moritzva]

I’ve been asked to comment here but I hate tier 2 threads

Which character infinitely outscales which in their cosmology

that character wins/stomps

if equal, idk probably incon since Planeswalker has a metric load of passive bullshit as well depending on how things are treated, which nobody can really agree upon for reasons that become apparent very quickly once you start debating it

 

[StrymULTRA]

Her passives are Baseline Infinite Speed

You sure are dense aren't you?

 

[Harith0cell]

Im curious what layer scaling chain both of this characters have.

 

[Theglassman12]

@The_Legendary_Vin If you're claiming this kind of writing is bad, you really do not know what the dilemma is with Nobody and Es. She wins by this amount of abilities being active passively.

 

[Rabbit2002]

Nobody FRA

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Grace

 

[The_Legendary_Vin]

@The_Legendary_Vin If you're claiming this kind of writing is bad, you really do not know what the dilemma is with Nobody and Es. She wins by this amount of abilities being active passively.

I unfollowed the thread, please do not ping me