The Lord of Apokalips vs the King of Asgard.

[Zamasu_Chan]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. You're logic implies the use of multipliers and percentages in tier 2 which we don't use. Saying Darkseid is X times stronger than goes against the system because the gap between universes is unquantifiable.

 

[Schnee_One]

That shit is like saying the difference between a 2 Megafoe character and a 2 Kiloton character is a one shot thus a 2 Megafoe character can one shot a 1 Megafoe

Low 2C to 2C is unquantifiable large, two 2Cs however, is very easy to quantify

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

False equivalency because you can actually quantify energy.

If it's so easy to quantify then how come multipliers don't increase your AP?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

To elaborate, if Character A has an AP of 3 universes and Character B has an AP of 2 universes it's pretty clear that Character A has the advantage by 33%. In a VS matchup we automatically think that's the case. However, by our standards no matter how large your scaling chain is, it won't increase your AP. Megaman EXE for example is like >>>>> baseline but still raked as baseline but nothing higher. So if multipliers can't get you from destroying 2 universes to more how come Character A doesn't one shot Character B? You can't have your cake and eat it too, it's very contradictory to our standards.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

The reason that the gap Low 2-C and 2-C is unquantifiable is due to the 5 dimensional axis. Whether or not a character can breach this is the difference between being Low 2-C and being 2-C. There's no way to measure that and that's why the gap is unquantifiable. That's why a character can be like 9000x baseline Low 2-C and still not be 2-C.

However, once a character shows that they are able to breach the distance between universes along that axis, it just comes down to how many times over can they do that.

 

[Schnee_One]

False equivalency because you can actually quantify energy.

If it's so easy to quantify then how come multipliers don't increase your AP?

They do...…

We've accepted that for months now

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I wasn't even referring to low 2-C it baseline 2-C compared to 3 universes.

So you mean to tell me if a character is baseline 2-C and he gets 10 times stronger, then his AP equates to 20 universes?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Low 2-C vs 2-C has a dimensional tiering barrier between it. It's 4-D vs 5-D. Not so for 2-C vs 2-C.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

My question wasn't answered tho...

 

[Schnee_One]

I don't see why not

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I don't see why not

Well if that's true then I disregard what I said.

 

[LordUrien935]

Darkseid FRA

 

[Christian_Higdon]

He who ''is'' FRA.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Nice we got this concluded (Now to make him fight Galactus)

Also we don't need to wait for grace if it's unanimous yes?

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Also we don't need to wait for grace if it's unanimous yes?

No, we still have to do grace.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Ah I see (Let's see if Odin gets some arguments)

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Darkseid appears to have more wincons and he uses them in character. I reluctantly vote Darksied FRA.

 

[JackJoyce]

Odin can't put Darkseid down due to his Type 8 immortality. While Omega beam erases Odin due to no resistance

 

[Hellbeast1]

So I think it's fair to say Darkseid's got this

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Eh, Uxas FRA.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Ok so grace was over half a week ago now Why hasn't this been added

 

[Hellbeast1]

Was it half a week?

Either way we'd have to get an admin to add since I think Darkseid's locked

 

[Ogbunabali]

Well since both of them are locked. You can request to add them here.