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No, its just soul based durability Negation that slowly deals damage overtime. It doesn't have 'Corruption' or any mental effects.
Sukuna counters it by Regenerating.
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The King of Curses has a bad time
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Sukuna counters it by Regenerating.
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even if it was corruption, he’s been there done that with characters like Mahito
ShionAH
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It does, with the text implying it makes you regret all your sins.
How does Sukuna even get past Sans special attack??? Sukuna has no wincons against that lol
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Sukuna dismantle sans before any special attack nonsense
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Okay, quit reading this if this has already been said before:
Battle starts, Sans immediately knows that Sukuna is legit at Chara levels of evil as per his Clairvoyance
How does Sukuna survive this? He'll simply dodge, right? How quickly can he heal using RCT?
Battle starts, Sans immediately knows that Sukuna is legit at Chara levels of evil as per his Clairvoyance
(It also depends on how his Clairvoyance reacts to Megumi as well. I don't think it would extend that far, but who knows)
How does Sukuna survive this? He'll simply dodge, right? How quickly can he heal using RCT?
Unironically, Sans dodges.
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No, he doesn't have any mental powers on his profile. And think that line Is just like most other after Turn dialogue in Undertale, just a throwaway line that expresses how you're character is thinking.
Sukuna resist paralysis Inducement.
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A SINGLE blow. Not "blows". Sukuna fires a flurry, Sans dies. It's not like he dodged 57000 more attacks from Frisk after falling asleep.
The same thing Frisk does. Attack him since he doesn't even use his timestop to dodge attacks. Seriously, if Frisk swinging a knife at Sans once 24 times is enough to tire him out and hit him, then Sukuna firing thousands of invisible danmaku slashes minigun style are going to tire him out immediately.
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Like, has quick as he needs to. He is probably the best RCT user in the verse.
Here we go again:
Sans dodges 24 attacks before getting tired. Those attacks are a single simple slash. Sukuna can fire out a metric shit-ton of slashes every second via Dismantle. Even if we want to assume Sans can dodge Sukuna's danmaku slashes (When his best feat is dodging a single knife slash per turn, and IA is only assumed to work on a scale it's been shown too), he would become exhausted within the first few seconds of the match and then be killed after.
Sukuna spamming Dismantle on Yuji.
Sukuna literally slashing Geto's daughter into hundreds of tiny meat cubes
I mean look how he uses that shit in the anime. He can fire it off like a minigun. Sans isn't dodging all of that, and even if he does, he becomes tired after dodging 24 of them and then is immediately struck and killed.
Worst case scenario, Sukuna gets bored of Sans dodging, and uses Malevolent Shrine to make it physically impossible for Sans to dodge. Not sure why this is even really a debate. I feel Sans abilities are heavily inflated on the wiki even as an Undertale fan.
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One, not on the profile. Two, regretting your actions since now you have to deal with an annoying ass boss fight doesn't really imply mental corruption/poisoning
With what we see in the Shinjuku fight, effectively instantly. After he regained his full RCT output he healed two missing arms, half of his face being burned off, a missing heart, and several wounds to his soul instantly before Yuji could even notice and react to it. He only realized it happened after Sukuna literally hit him with the arm he regened.
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Catbowtie
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Bruh moment. I'll follow up with asking if Sans can even win? His main (and only) win condition is destroying the Soul, but Sukuna can pretty much instantly heal soul damage.
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I never really got why we treated Sans as some dodge god. Like yes, IA action is good... against attacks in the order of magnitude of what they're shown to dodge. Me having Instinctive Actions that lets me dodge a dudes punch 50 times doesn't mean I can suddenly dodge 50 billion bullets coming at me like I'm in Tohou or some shit.
Sans has never shown his IA can let him dodge thousands of invisible giant slashes being spammed at him like a minigun. He realistically can't dodge that shit at all. And even if I give him the benefit of the doubt, Sans exhausts him immediately because he fires hundreds of slashes in a single attack vs Frisk swinging a knife at him ONCE per turn 24 times.
Sans has never shown his IA can let him dodge thousands of invisible giant slashes being spammed at him like a minigun. He realistically can't dodge that shit at all. And even if I give him the benefit of the doubt, Sans exhausts him immediately because he fires hundreds of slashes in a single attack vs Frisk swinging a knife at him ONCE per turn 24 times.
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Its like what i said in the beginning. This is a mismatch. Sans IA isn't going to carry him against a guy who can instantly fire slashes in every direction.
KARMA his only wincon is unreliable aganist a guy who can quickly heal intense spiritual and physical damage.
Sans Teleporting Sukuna around isn't going to help win he can still Dismantle with just a thought.
Sukuna can break out of Gravity Manipulation with Flight and Superior Lifitng Strength.
He can also use his countless Shikigami to distract and overwhelm Sans.
KARMA his only wincon is unreliable aganist a guy who can quickly heal intense spiritual and physical damage.
Sans Teleporting Sukuna around isn't going to help win he can still Dismantle with just a thought.
Sukuna can break out of Gravity Manipulation with Flight and Superior Lifitng Strength.
He can also use his countless Shikigami to distract and overwhelm Sans.
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Apologize for repeating myself. But most Sans defenders here have pretty much made the exact same arguments, or have flat out made stuff up.
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I always had it in mind that in order to hit Sans, you either need to blitz his Instinctive Action Teleportation, or overwhelm him by making him constantly dodge attacks.
I don't think your Tohou example works because Sukuna's Dismantles aren't depicted as being omni-directional (NO ****ING WAY!) Theoretically, Sukuna would wave his hand (or not, I guess it just depends on how he's feeling that day) and Sans would dodge it by virtue of his IA Teleportation. Sure, he could fire more Dismantles, but it's moving linearly, no matter how many Dismantles he fires. I think Sans can just...aim dodge, or react to Sukuna waving his hand. Mahoraga is able to do it, who is seemingly mindless (which can be debatable, bro figured out how to solve Achilles and the Turtle and applied it to real life)
Once Sukuna decides to not wave his hand when using Dismantles then it's Ggs for Sans, but it depends on how Sukuna is feeling.
I also think that the whole "Frisk swinging a knife once" thing is...how do I say it? A pretty weird thing (at least for me) to figure out how it actually looks. Frisk can be shown to attack punch things like three times to and damage a monster, so I always thought that the whole Attack Action thing was being able to get an actual chance to hit Sans
Or I'm just onto nothing lol, this was rushed.
(ShionAh, respectfully, that's you)
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Sukuna can fire broad large slashes that can cut buildings in half or into pieces. He can also use extension technique to make it omni-directional (Spider-Web is just AoE Dismantle). Pretty sure Sans dodges an attack and Sukuna proceeds to fire hundreds more in every direction Sans teleports, making it pretty damn hard to avoid. I don't see Sans lasting more than a few seconds before being completely worn out with how fast and many can be fired at once. If Sukuna fired like one small slash per arm swing, I could see where you're coming from and would be more in Sans favor, but that's not the case, so I just disagree with the notion that Sans can avoid Sukuna for any significant amount of time.
Like worst case scenario, Sukuna whips out Domain Expansion, and he's lost.
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Sorry but having IA does not let your body dodge things that are impossible to sense because there is nothing that alerts your body or mind or whatever to instantly react, if what the JJK fans are saying is right, people were attacked and they did not feel the attack at all, so IA is worthless here and even more when Sans IA is "I dodge something while sleeping", that is literally the body reacting on his own, how is his body gonna react when the attack is impossible to sense in the first place and the body IS NOT FEELING THE ATTACK?
I am voting Sukuna FRA and if anything because Mahoraga counters him like I said jokingly in the ******* first message, now the vote is official, even then, I think this is a stomp but is sans, no fight is a stomp with him obviously
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Pretty sure Maki could dodge the slashes by feeling vibrations in the air, so they do have a physical effect on the world.
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Sans can't sense different air densities, temperatures and every minimal vibration like Maki
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Maki could do that because of her Enhanced Senses that let her see things like the differences in temperature and the density of air something Sans can't do and thus wouldn't be able to replicate.
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Maybe it wouldn't be a stomp if sans had prior knowledge on Sukuna?
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Maki has way better senses than Sans, they're not at all comparable. In the fight Sukuna was also testing out Maki's physical prowess, so he only sent out single, big slashes at her
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The attack is impossible to see, not to sense
It gets faster the more Sukuna is hit
Actually, I've read Flowey's profile, and Sans is capable of harming her despite having Soul hax resistance and Soul immunity, so Sans Soul attacks will work
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It is, Sans can't sense Cursed Energy.
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Dw I will probably get that sins thing on the profile soon.
Anyways does Sukuna have any answer to Sans' special attack though? He lacks the fourth wall awareness to deal with it
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Verse Equilization exists guys
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Does it make any sounds or?
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Mahoraga can probably adapt to it, if I had to guess.
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Do you think Sans felt anything while dodging Frisk’s attack while being ASLEEP? Think about it instead of simping for Dismantle bs
Good to know, I still vote Sans via IA, insane Danmaku and destroying Sukuna’s soul in less than a second
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You need Cursed Energy to see Cursed Energy in JJK and Sukuna's slashes are even invisible to those with CE.
