The Future of FC/OC (Major Changes to Policy and Content Standards)

[Phoenks]

What I mean is that there’s some people who can’t even follow the current site rules, but if the quality standards is something like insane sonic then that seems fine to me.

Why the heck would we cater to people who won't even follow the site rules and formatting? That doesn't even have much to do with writing quality or page quality. That is purely just the unwillingness to even try at all.

Insane Sonic isn't something I find immediately delete-worthy, though I would say users should strive for more.

And, this isn't to say that the Jeff page is the bare minimum or anything. I'm just saying it is a good example.

 

[Flowerguy2]

Question; Since DB! Verse is getting booted and moved to an another wiki, will hosts like Wiz and Boomstick stayed on FCOC or do they get booted along too? Since while they are the host of the show... they're also original characters on their own.

 

[Rayfire]

Why the heck would we cater to people who won't even follow the site rules and formatting? That doesn't even have much to do with writing quality or page quality. That is purely just the unwillingness to even try at all.

Insane Sonic isn't something I find immediately delete-worthy, though I would say users should strive for more.

And, this isn't to say that the Jeff page is the bare minimum or anything. I'm just saying it is a good example.

I never said we should cater to people who break the rules… I’m just saying that setting the bar TOO high would be a bad idea considering how many people either break the current ones, or do the bare minimum when it comes to profiles. (Not saying that’s everyone, just, like, some.)

If insane sonic is alright then I think that’s my concern gone, to me that looks just fine as a profile

I have also updated the Standard Format to give an outline on things that could be written on the page. I believe this could help people who are very new to character development. Asking a number of questions that users can ponder upon and explore when making a page.

I’ll take a look in a sec

 

[Phoenks]

Question; Since DB! Verse is getting booted and moved to an another wiki, will hosts like Wiz and Boomstick stayed on FCOC or do they get booted along too? Since while they are the host of the show... they're also original characters on their own.

I might make exceptions for Wiz and Boomstick, since there is actually a LOT more you could add to them. They have nearly 200 episodes where a lot of their lore and history is indirectly explored. They also have unique and established personalities and character. There's even an entire Wiz vs Boomstick podcast which is probably "canon."

Though, in their current states, they definitely need to be edited. Profiles aren't very good atm, nor are they up to date on stuff.

Yeah, I'd have no problem with Wiz and Boomstick being on here.

 

[Phoenks]

I’m just saying that setting the bar TOO high would be a bad idea considering how many people either break the current ones, or do the bare minimum when it comes to profiles. (Not saying that’s everyone, just, like, some.)

That's just catering, though.

You're saying "standards shouldn't be higher because of the people that don't even follow the current standards."

Why should standards have anything to do with the people who don't even want to follow them in the first place?

Also, the standards aren't even high, smh. Rayfire, I promise you most people could get up to standard. It's not that frightening.

It's when you get to Tiers 2, 1, and 0 that things are reasonably "tough." I'd say.

 

[Flowerguy2]

I might make exceptions for Wiz and Boomstick, since there is actually a LOT more you could add to them. They have nearly 200 episodes where a lot of their lore and history is indirectly explored. They also have unique and established personalities and character. There's even an entire Wiz vs Boomstick podcast which is probably "canon."

Though, in their current states, they definitely need to be edited. Profiles aren't very good atm, nor are they up to date on stuff.

Yeah, I'd have no problem with Wiz and Boomstick being on here.

Aight, got it.

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

I don't think this is something most minors could do

ay man (first of all i made the changes in the pastra's jeff profile) not to be that guy but i'm 15, and when i made the page from which i got the information i was 14

but i will say something, the standard format says "optional, but reccomended", and the way it's presented by phoenks makes it look like it's an obligatory field to add. Of course this could be easily fixed by the format being uploaded to make the fields obligatory or just keeping them as entirely optional instead of "optional but reccomended"

a lot of characters wouldn't even have that much to be written in their profiles. Let's take Forsaken characters as an example, who don't have much lore and that only have their personalities shown in very few ocassions, just being fun characters that one uses to escape a killer or kill as one.

 

[Phoenks]

a lot of characters wouldn't even have that much to be written in their profiles. Let's take Forsaken characters as an example, who don't have much lore and that only have their personalities shown in very few ocassions, just being fun characters that one uses to escape a killer or kill as one.

We're probably going to move away from indexing verses that simply lack anything to really index.

I'm okay with verses having characters who are more developed, and then some others who are one-offs or simply not that involved. Like, if there's some monsters that people face one time and things of that nature. I don't care if those kinds of profiles are more vsbw-esque in nature.

Though, if that applies to whole verse, especially in the realm of stuff that isn't user-made (Where the user themselves can't develop said profiles), we'll probably pass on indexing things of that nature.

 

[Rayfire]

ay man (first of all i made the changes in the pastra's jeff profile) not to be that guy but i'm 15, and when i made the page from which i got the information i was 14

I’m not saying newcomers or minors can’t make good profiles at all lol, but in general the younger or newer you are to this sort of thing, the more likely you are to not meet the profile standards, and i know 13 year old me can’t make something like Jeff lol, so it’s down to the person. You and I are 2 out of thousands of examples.

But that’s kind of why I think something like insane sonic is fitting for an acceptable profile quality, it ticks all the boxes, at least for me, and isn’t too difficult for anyone to do. Phoenks seems to agree that something that is alright so I’m not really that concerned about the quality standards right now.