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I don't think it should be closed, it's not out of control or anything...
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The Final Battle! Roy vs Ike
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So...inconclusive?
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I read the entire thing, and while Ike does seem to have the overall fighting advatnage, since there are no skills, Ike can´t heal, while Roy clearly can for three times the amount the Falchion can.
Also, since the battlefield is filled with trees and other stuff, i can see Roy using his far superior tactical intelligence to use.
Also, since the battlefield is filled with trees and other stuff, i can see Roy using his far superior tactical intelligence to use.
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Alright, I'll keep it open for a while
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Technically, that was 1.4 Zetaton Ashunera, but Ashera and Yune are both half of Ashunera. And no, I wasn't using that, but we did already discuss and debunked 53 Petaton Roy numerous times; that it's more like at least 6 Petatons and possibly higher, but 12 or higher is far too much of an assumption to use. 25 Petaton Ashunera is still caused by complete accident and done very casually; and since Ashunera is far about 25 Petatons, and Ashera is have of her, Ike is still far above 12.5 Petatons.
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He has a lot more skill actually leading an army and was personally thought by Cecilia.
Ike has no tactical knowledge whatsoever.
Ike has no tactical knowledge whatsoever.
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Yeah, keep this up.
Their arguments are starting to crumble.
Their arguments are starting to crumble.
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Yeah, Roy can lead an army. That has nothing to do with a 1-v-1.AdobeAldo23904 said:
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>Debunked 53 Peta Roy.
What? What are you talking about? That never happened on the thread.
Why would anyone interpret "Stronger than the Divine Weapons" as "Oh, its just as strong as one of them"???
Thats insane.
Anyways.
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What? What are you talking about? That never happened on the thread.
Why would anyone interpret "Stronger than the Divine Weapons" as "Oh, its just as strong as one of them"???
Thats insane.
Anyways.
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At least two of Roy's voters are currently being suspected of sock puppetry; just a heads up.
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Roy can use the castles and trees to take on Ike, while Ike is not the most tactical wise in any way.
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Huh? Who?
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No, you're making it seem like Ike is a brawler who doesn't think. He can't lead an army, but he still fights strategically.AdobeAldo23904 said:
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How is Ike an strategic fighter?
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Lol, yeah sure. Keep believing that.RapidMotorcycle19 said:
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Cause he won, or at the very least outlasted uphill battles beforeAdobeAldo23904 said:
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uphill?
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You never heard the term "uphill battles" before?
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nope, sorry
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Look it up.
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Alright, ill come back-
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This is a tough one, but i have to say Roy fra and healing.
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You do know that the reasons above have been debunked including healing.
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They have? Does ike have anything to cancel Roy´s healing?
If yes, then i guess i have to read the thread again.
If yes, then i guess i have to read the thread again.
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If not, he is probably winning this if he is willing to kill and with tactical skill and intelligence both kill Ike.
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Ike has fought people with better healing in a 1v1, and just like in this thread, without use of skills, and has won
and he's at least twice as strong
and he's at least twice as strong
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No he is not.
Both are around 12 peta.
Anyways.
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Both are around 12 peta.
Anyways.
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@Marco you're better off getting the votes for Roy out since the points for Roy were debunked.
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Wait i tought Roy was at least 12 peta
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No im not.
Saying that a vote has been nullified because its argument have been "debunked' is not on the versus thread ruleset.
Worth a read.
Saying that a vote has been nullified because its argument have been "debunked' is not on the versus thread ruleset.
Worth a read.
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You do know that is just common sense to not count those votes right? That's like saying that Superman wins cause he has flight, when everyone else argues back saying that the opponent has dealt with flying enemies before, and has numerous ways to put him down, but the vote still counts because it's a vote.Marco Shark said:
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There's no proof that Roy is at least 12 Petatons; it's possible that he is, but we can't just jump the gun and assume it. Also, most of the people voting for Roy are speculated to be sock puppets.
Anyway, Ike is at least 12 Petatons, more proof about being the better swordsman, has a weapon that is not breakable as opposed to a one that is breakable, has better skills, and fought opponents with better healing than Roy.
Anyway, Ike is at least 12 Petatons, more proof about being the better swordsman, has a weapon that is not breakable as opposed to a one that is breakable, has better skills, and fought opponents with better healing than Roy.
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@Dragon Don't forget about Tharon.
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Two things.
One. There is literally nothing that puts me as sockpuppet. Are you mad people are voting for Roy? If you want Ike to win, just get two more friends to vote for Ike and that'll be it.
Two. He is stronger than THE Holy WeaponS aka. More than 1.
Two things.
One. There is literally nothing that puts me as sockpuppet. Are you mad people are voting for Roy? If you want Ike to win, just get two more friends to vote for Ike and that'll be it.
Two. He is stronger than THE Holy WeaponS aka. More than 1.
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No one's mad for people are voting for Roy; the problem is people using either vague, in significant, or false reasons, which is exactly what roy's voters are doing. They're either doing that or blindly voting for reasons above. Anyway, JustSomeWierdo and I already debunked all of Roy's votes and gave multiple reasons to back it up.
Stronger than the Holy Weapons simply means stronger than them individually; regardless of whether or not it's plural. There is no proof that the Sword of Seals is stronger than the combined Divine Weapons, so we can't assume it.
All of Ike's voters are people who've been here for a while; some of which are primary Fire Emblem experts whereas most of Roy's voters just joined the day they voted, share the same figure of speech, one of them even blatantly admitted said they just vote for who they like better instead of providing actual facts; unlike most of us experts voting for Ike. Also, Ike defeated both The Black Knight and Ashera; both characters have Regenerationn far superior to Roy's and is automatic. Also, Roy had actively use the Sword of Seals in order to heal, plus it uses some of the SoS's ammunition; meaning he's eventually going to break it if he uses too much of it.
Attending political classes doesn't automatically mean they're a better fighter than someone who's been training in swordsmanship and goes in more fights regularly than the school person does. This fight is pretty much Mike Haggar as Roy Vs Zangief as Ike; one's a character, while both powerful and a skilled fighter, regularly learns more about ruling a kingdom rather than honing combat skills, while the other practically lives by the sword. Ike is kind of like Guts from Berserk and is a one man army while Roy is more of a leader than a fighter. In fact, Lilina mentions in a support with Gonzales that Roy is not very strong but he is kind. Ike is also clearly far more tactical when it comes to one on one fights; which Roy actually has little experience in that department in canon.
Stronger than the Holy Weapons simply means stronger than them individually; regardless of whether or not it's plural. There is no proof that the Sword of Seals is stronger than the combined Divine Weapons, so we can't assume it.
All of Ike's voters are people who've been here for a while; some of which are primary Fire Emblem experts whereas most of Roy's voters just joined the day they voted, share the same figure of speech, one of them even blatantly admitted said they just vote for who they like better instead of providing actual facts; unlike most of us experts voting for Ike. Also, Ike defeated both The Black Knight and Ashera; both characters have Regenerationn far superior to Roy's and is automatic. Also, Roy had actively use the Sword of Seals in order to heal, plus it uses some of the SoS's ammunition; meaning he's eventually going to break it if he uses too much of it.
Attending political classes doesn't automatically mean they're a better fighter than someone who's been training in swordsmanship and goes in more fights regularly than the school person does. This fight is pretty much Mike Haggar as Roy Vs Zangief as Ike; one's a character, while both powerful and a skilled fighter, regularly learns more about ruling a kingdom rather than honing combat skills, while the other practically lives by the sword. Ike is kind of like Guts from Berserk and is a one man army while Roy is more of a leader than a fighter. In fact, Lilina mentions in a support with Gonzales that Roy is not very strong but he is kind. Ike is also clearly far more tactical when it comes to one on one fights; which Roy actually has little experience in that department in canon.
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I think we already went thru this on the thread about fe6 upgrades. Roy is at least 2 peta because the dragon dude says its stronger than THE Holy WeaponS, i repeat. More than one.
And, i dont how you've debunked the fact that Roy has superior tactical skill (Like Adobe and others have stated above) or his healing.
And comparing Roy to Haggar and Ike to Zangief is literally a non argument.
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And, i dont how you've debunked the fact that Roy has superior tactical skill (Like Adobe and others have stated above) or his healing.
And comparing Roy to Haggar and Ike to Zangief is literally a non argument.
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Did you even read at any of our counter arguments? We literally brought up te point that Ike has been in more uphill battles than Roy and has survived through all of them. That alone should tell you that he has better tactician skills. Also we told you for the 20th time that Ike has faced people with better regen skills than Roy and has won in the end.
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