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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

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Since the root becomes tier 0, does void shiki get upgraded as well? currently 1-A with powers, so I was thinking High 1-A+ or something like that
 
Tdjwo said:
Void is root so 0. I think Ultima already said characters that represent the same thing but with different keys still get the same tier 0.
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ik but i remember ultima saying a character cant be ''0 with powers'' anymore, and currently void shiki is At least High 6-C physically, 1-A with her powers
 
Iiliminal said:
ik but i remember ultima saying a character cant be ''0 with powers'' anymore, and currently void shiki is At least High 6-C physically, 1-A with her powers
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Void Shiki being High 6-C never made any sense in the first place considering they used feats from Ryougi Shiki for her Void self despite being different personalities. Void Shiki is supposed to have her own separate profile or a profile besides the root itself.
 
Iiliminal said:
ik but i remember ultima saying a character cant be ''0 with powers'' anymore, and currently void shiki is At least High 6-C physically, 1-A with her powers
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Isn't void shiki literally the root? I don't know much about Fate, but...It is literally stated in her profile that if she dies, the entire verse goes with her
 
So, in the end, what tier will God from Unsong get? I remember it being mentioned by Ultima back when he was debating with Deagon (if it's not me just having Mandela effect), but ever since then many things had changed
 
Karabach-barabach said:
So, in the end, what tier will God from Unsong get? I remember it being mentioned by Ultima back when he was debating with Deagon (if it's not me just having Mandela effect), but ever since then many things had changed
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Ultima's gonna reread to gather evidence. Any tier between Low 1-A and 0 seems possible.
 
Tdjwo said:
Reading through Ultima's new comment on the Tier 0 thread, who qualifies for High 1A+? I can't really think of any other character that isn't Self Reference Engine.
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i forgot to mention, i was thinking backrooms but the relevant part is not on this wiki
 
hah well to somewhat respond to his question, technically there’s an example of that in the Backrooms, the Pillars are “transdual” over reality and unreality
and they transcend a High 1-A verse, they can’t be tier 0 cuz of some stuff but i have them at High 1-A+ rn cuz omnipotence etc.
 
Iiliminal said:
hah well to somewhat respond to his question, technically there’s an example of that in the Backrooms, the Pillars are “transdual” over reality and unreality
and they transcend a High 1-A verse, they can’t be tier 0 cuz of some stuff but i have them at High 1-A+ rn cuz omnipotence etc.
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Does the backrooms even have a baseline level?
 
Iiliminal said:
wdym?
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In order to qualify for R>F transcendence, there has to be baseline reality, for the higher reality to see as fiction.

For example, Narnia is the baseline, and New Narnia, introduced at the end of the novels, is a higher reality.

For backrooms, you can’t really pick which level or group of levels are the baseline.
 
Fun fact. With the new upgrade there is a good chance that uncle grandpa curbstomps all of warhammer, almost all of DnD, homestuck, SMT and all xianxia that is currently here (unless they get some BS upgrade)
 
Tbh I highly doubt The Backrooms will ever get on here. SCP barely passed by the skin of its teeth, and that was with thousands of articles and authors, all on a single, well-moderated site that had been established for over a decade. As far as I know, nothing close to that caliber exists for The Backrooms.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
In order to qualify for R>F transcendence, there has to be baseline reality, for the higher reality to see as fiction.

For example, Narnia is the baseline, and New Narnia, introduced at the end of the novels, is a higher reality.

For backrooms, you can’t really pick which level or group of levels are the baseline.
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oh. no the 1-A stuff for Backrooms doesn’t have to do with levels, the baseline reality is the entire multiverse
levels would peak very high in High 1-B+
the Blue Channel encompassing the entire multiverse is Low 1-A
 
Genericstickman said:
now you got me conflicted, one one hand High 1-A Homestuck, in the other hand 1-A Jojo which is pretty funny
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1-A jojo, send lil boy before I come to you
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