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The Boys Season 4 Discussion Thread
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I don't think so.
But I'm fairly sure this 3rd blast could get close to 9-A if someone (not me) calc'd it.
But I'm fairly sure this 3rd blast could get close to 9-A if someone (not me) calc'd it.
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Actually watching past the video ends in this blog you see the debris on the ground and it is indeed mostly V-frag however there is still a bit that isn't, I'd do like 80~90% V frag with the other 10~20% being fragA lot of the cast (Starlight included) scales to stuff like breaking Kimiko's bones, so these characters would probably be Wall level+ if the low-end is accepted.
Kimiko Soldier Boy Blast
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no matter you scratch it though you're getting 9-A
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I already calculated it like a few days ago off wiki, that got 9-A. just gotta blog it
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Alrighty you're good to go
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Nice job man! (Idk why you clarify starlight as if she wasn't included already lol)A lot of the cast (Starlight included) scales to stuff like breaking Kimiko's bones, so these characters would probably be Wall level+ if the low-end is accepted.Kimiko Soldier Boy Blast
The last wall you mean? Because the explosion looks more like chain reaction.
Btw Dalesean, can I ask for some help with my Hughie calc? I think I messed up lol
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The fire one was a chain reactions for sure but no the wall destruction right after that, you can see the lightning blast in the windows going far so her blast just destroyed a lot of that outer wall
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The very last one is for sure just her, yeah. If that's what you mean.
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Send it
Let me rephrase the only blast that was a chain reaction was the one that produced flames, watch the destruction of anything after that and blast can be seen reach much further down into the building and the walls frag at the exact same time even further down.
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So, so far we have:
- Kimiko getting blasted by Soldier Boy (0.011 Tons of TNT)
- Stormfront being implied to survive an RPG (0.028 Tons)
- Kimiko being implied to be able to survive Lamplighter's fire blast (0.0486 Tons of TNT)
- Maeve (dubiously canon) scaling above Groundhawk and Nubian Prince (0.057 Tons of TNT)
- Luke reducing Brink to ashes (0.056 - 0.06 Tons of TNT)
In this comment, is the Stormfront one (She scales to the RPG, Hughie to the shockwave)
I think you mean the one where she throws a fridge? If not, don't worry, I'll understand after seeing the blog lol
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Sorry for the late response I needed some more sleep, I'm gonna do some superman calcs, then upload my blog for stormfront then take a look at your Hughie calc
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Hey man, no worries, it's ok.
No hurry with the Hughie calc, specially since other calcs are cooking lol
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There is barely any difference between our results. I got Jack Quaids BSA as 1.9796m^2 using his height of 1.85m and weight of 165 pounds, using half that for his cross sectional area makes that 0.9898m^2, you'd multiply that by the 0.0000748680335575 Tons of TNT value you got for a result of 306890.16584 Joules. So that 300kj wall level value seems pretty consistent for it as there's barely even a 10KJ difference in the results we got
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Yeah I used 1.905 because that's what Hughie claimed to be.
Would that be an outlier? Or maybe it could go like "Wall level (Butcher shockwave), possibly higher (Hughie's explosion)"?
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yeah like I said either way its fine, its a very small difference anyways between our two results
I mean its like several times over 10x higher than butchers feat but meh that's up for a crt to determine
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Based.
Well, if you give the ok on the blog, maybe tomorrow (it's 10.30 pm here(?) I can make the CRT for the human's upgrade
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I KNEW IT WAS HIGHER THAN 9-B!!! On another note could her throwing that object (Refrigerator?) through all those walls potentially be higher than her 3rd blast? And could it be used to find her lifting strength with electricity?
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idk why yall keep talking about the 3rd blast, I've said the second one like 5 times now, that's what is 9-A
its not just the fridge she destroys the entire wall on that level from the entire other side
Look at the frame by frame before the fridge even starts flying due to her blast she's already blowing out the wall further down from this one blast, the fridge even if a by product of the blast was still flung due to the energy it carried so it wouldn't be treated as a second feat..
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The Boys (TV Series) - Lamplighter melts a metal door
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Door was vaped, not melted
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In my case I ask because I'm confused, but that's a me problem lol
I think the implication is more about melting... But I guess I could add a vaporizing endThe Boys (TV Series) - Lamplighter melts a metal door
Door was vaped, not melted
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Off-topic with the AP calculations, but I gotta ask smth.
Shouldn't Homelander get resis to blood manip?
Homelander was confident Vic wouldn't do jackshit to him with her powers (he threatened her in one scene, and Vic was scared of him the whole rest of the series even at the end). Its implied that Vic wouldnt be able to explode HL
I would argue for limited resis to mind manip bc of being a direct upgrade to SB who was able to somewhat shrug Mindstorm's mind hax too.
Shouldn't Homelander get resis to blood manip?
Homelander was confident Vic wouldn't do jackshit to him with her powers (he threatened her in one scene, and Vic was scared of him the whole rest of the series even at the end). Its implied that Vic wouldnt be able to explode HL
I would argue for limited resis to mind manip bc of being a direct upgrade to SB who was able to somewhat shrug Mindstorm's mind hax too.
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(In fact I actually believe he should get all of SB resistances too, he was imprisoned in a extremely high temperature room and it didnt burn his skin as a kid). Also since no manmade weapon could hurt him it also implies poison manip wouldn't beat him (like w Soldier Boy who only could get momentarily KOd by Novichok). And they never considered that to be a option against Homelander. Theres a reason they csn only rely on an (enhanced) supe virus to defeat him.
oh shit, an disease resis is ALSO possible bc the standard compound V virus (which annihilates the average supe) needs to be improved to the point of genocide in order to be able to kill Homelander.
oh shit, an disease resis is ALSO possible bc the standard compound V virus (which annihilates the average supe) needs to be improved to the point of genocide in order to be able to kill Homelander.
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I'm pretty sure Homelander straight up said anthrax wouldn't do anything to him or Ryan
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Come onn.. ad the 9-C jizz and body control for controlling his cum speed
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Yeah, I was waiting to have all Sandboxes finished to do one CRT, but tbh, I think I can make just one for HL and SB's new resistances (since the 8-A rating is accepted) and then when we have all the calcs and scaling do the rest for the high-mid tiers.Actually asandbox we need to add it
Fair in the SB argument tbh. Thats true.
Btw, 8-C The Boys??.
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Just curious on what your guys thoughts are on the season as a whole
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- Too many filler and mid sub-plots
- Butcher gave us enough hype for S5
- Homie is good like always, yet he was a lil too background this season and thats fine
- No good fights
- Hughie gets r worded 21 times… what the hell
- Simons acting was great
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Episodes 4-5 and 7-8 overall ranged from great to excellent. Episodes 1-3 were alright but pretty slow in terms of progressing anything, however since they were all released at once I’m not too bummed out about it. Episode 6 got heavily held down by the Tek-Knight and Webweaver stuff, which is a huge shame since all the other subplots like A-Train’s or Billy’s were handled really well. Also now that I’ve actually watched Gen V I’m really mad at how Tek-Knight was handled in episode 6.
Overall definitely the weakest season like most people have said, but imo outside of the Tek-Knight and Colin subplots (almost forgot about Colin lmao) I don’t think anything was all that bad.
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Isn’t this the same Lamplighter feat currently used to support 9-A?
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Mid season but did a hell of a good job making me hyped as **** for season 5
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Annie’s powers only work when there’s electricity nearby, right? Maybe I’m just missing something but it kinda feels like they (possibly intentionally) ignored that for Season 4. Like shouldn’t Annie not have access to her powers during the riot scene or in the barn (she didn’t for the latter anyway but for a different reason)? Also maybe her final scene in season 4, but I think there she was drawing power from the car like she probably did when she accidentally killed that one man in season 2.
As an aside, Annie having crazy flight powers now is pretty insane when you consider she had massively less nearby electricity than she did when she first levitated.
As an aside, Annie having crazy flight powers now is pretty insane when you consider she had massively less nearby electricity than she did when she first levitated.
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First half was very mid, with some stuff (Colin)) being actually bad, but there was still some things to like about the show. And then the second half was amazing, ESPECIALLY the last two eps.
We have two options:
- Kimiko being implied/stated by MM to survive the fire blast
- Maeve being stated to be the second most powerful supe (that HL knew at the time), but this one is from a deleted scene (some of those are canon, like the Butcher Short film, but yeah, it's weird)
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Just to make sure, we don’t currently use being bulletproof to scale certain supes above others correct?
