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Very well thenThe shockwave was a valid concern, but it was refuted. The shockwave thing has been resolved.
Damage's only still standing concern is that Ichigo could have sliced through cross sections, which is what I'm calcing rn.
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Very well thenThe shockwave was a valid concern, but it was refuted. The shockwave thing has been resolved.
Damage's only still standing concern is that Ichigo could have sliced through cross sections, which is what I'm calcing rn.
What we disagree with is the method. The end result is still the same.I find it interesting how 4 staff can disagree that Ichigo swatted away all the petals but there is a panel of Byakuya saying he did.
That's a bad analogy. The bowling pins are being hit by something much larger than they are and they are in a stationary position, not to mention that they are long and thick as well..The petal blades are being hit by a daito while both of them are moving in different directions. The only feat similar that comes to mind is Vergil and Dante slicing raindropsWhat we disagree with is the method. The end result is still the same.
If there a line of bowling pins, and I roll a bowling ball at them and they all go down... Then you could say I "knocked over all the pins", but I didn't have to hit each individual pin to do so.
It's just an analogy. Not an exact 1 to 1 comparison. The point is still there.That's a bad analogy. The bowling pins are being hit by something much larger than they are and they are in a stationary position, not to mention that they are long and thick as well..The petal blades are being hit by a daito while both of them are moving in different directions. The only feat similar to this is Vergil and Dante slicing raindrops
No, it is not. Just as Sigurd also said. You specifically put the pins to fall together, that is the point of that game.It's just an analogy. Not an exact 1 to 1 comparison. The point is still there.
I find it interesting how 4 staff can disagree that Ichigo swatted away all the petals but there is a panel of Byakuya saying he did.
yep.You legit argued shockwaves. We’ve seen this move several times in multiple sources including games and I don’t recall a single shockwave whilst he’s using that particular attack.
This bowling analogy doesn’t work here at all. You lined them up so obviously you’d knock em down like dominos. We’re talking about a 360 attack here.
@Damage3245 here's it recalc'd using cross-sectional petal method.Tensa Zangetsu vs Senbonzakura Kageyoshi
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Oof@Tyri456; yes.
Byakuya says Ichigo swatted away all the petals, meaning Ichigo's blade came in contact with all the petals, so this^ is false.I don't think you understand what I meant by shockwave. The force of Ichigo's blows would send the petals back through the mass of Senbonzakura, knocking away petals that he hadn't even touched. That is what I was trying to stress.
Byakuya says Ichigo swatted away all the petals, meaning Ichigo's blade came in contact with all the petals, so this^ is false.
I explained why your explanation is more founded in assumptions than Ichigo hitting all petals.No. I explained why this isn't necessarily the case.
Both could be argued it's literally up to interpretation. While I don't necessarily agree with the idea that each was swatted away, arguing that he did it by shockwaves seems to take more leaps than what is narratively and consistently implied by Kubo in multiple instances.
Not really, when such small things are in such a condensed group naturally knocking away one would cause a chain reaction which knocks away others. It's one of the reasons the bowling analogy works because as the blade would physically touch and knockaway some of the petals other petals would most likely be struck by these already knocked away petals and be deflected in liue as well.Byakuya says Ichigo swatted away all the petals, meaning Ichigo's blade came in contact with all the petals, so this^ is false.
I was also referring to your most recent re-clarification of what you said.Ignore the term "shockwaves" for a moment. Look at the other posts I've made.
Prove that other petals were knocked away as such, because Byakuya says Ichigo hit all petals, not that Ichigo hit some petals which chain reaction hit more petals. Keep in mind Byakuya mentally controls all the petals so they aren't just going to fall away after impact like a bowling pin, Byakuya isn't going to relinquish their pursuit of Ichigo of his own volition.Not really, when such small things are in such a condensed group naturally knocking away one would cause a chain reaction which knocks away others. It's one of the reasons the bowling analogy works because as the blade would physically touch and knockaway some of the petals other petals would most likely be struck by these already knocked away petals and be deflected in liue as well.
Simple physics really.
A petal isn't nearly the same as a bowling ball. If a bunch of papers falls out of the sky and you knock one away, the paper won't just go flying into another piece of paper.Not really, when such small things are in such a condensed group naturally knocking away one would cause a chain reaction which knocks away others. It's one of the reasons the bowling analogy works because as the blade would physically touch and knockaway some of the petals other petals would most likely be struck by these already knocked away petals and be deflected in liue as well.
Simple physics really.
Thank you! Somebody gets it.Not really, when such small things are in such a condensed group naturally knocking away one would cause a chain reaction which knocks away others. It's one of the reasons the bowling analogy works because as the blade would physically touch and knockaway some of the petals other petals would most likely be struck by these already knocked away petals and be deflected in liue as well.
Simple physics really.
Byakuya never says Ichigo hit every individual petal.Prove that other petals were knocked away as such, because Byakuya says Ichigo hit all petals, not that Ichigo hit some petals which chain reaction hit more petals.
Why in the world would he be so specific...Byakuya never says Ichigo hit every individual petal.
Byakuya says he swatted all petals, that means every individual petal buddy. Do I need to define all?Byakuya never says Ichigo hit every individual petal.
No, buddy, it doesn't.Byakuya says he swatted all petals, that means every individual petal buddy.
At best for this side you can interpret it as his blade cut through/hit multiple at once in a line each time he swung, but like I said there is also support for the counter.Not really, when such small things are in such a condensed group naturally knocking away one would cause a chain reaction which knocks away others. It's one of the reasons the bowling analogy works because as the blade would physically touch and knockaway some of the petals other petals would most likely be struck by these already knocked away petals and be deflected in liue as well.
Simple physics really.
Lmao yes it does.No, buddy, it doesn't.
That's exactly what Arc7Kuroi is doing.Do you need to sound condescending?
He's the one who used the word in the first place. I'm not his buddy or his friend. Him using the term is condescending.He isn't the one who used italics for it.
Here Damage,
Cambridge dictionary defines all as "every one of"all
1. every one (of), or the complete amount or number (of), or the whole (of…dictionary.cambridge.org
Meaning when Byakuya says "Ichigo swatted away all of the petals" he is saying "Ichigo swatted away every one of the petals"
Do you know what's included in the whole of the petals? Every single petal.Look at the other definition in your link:
"the whole (of)".
Ichigo deflected the whole of Byakuya's Senbonzakura but that doesn't require needing to hit each one individually.
ummm if the papers are close to one another they would lol, you can test this for yourself with confettiIf a bunch of papers falls out of the sky and you knock one away, the paper won't just go flying into another piece of paper.