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We don't exactly see any of the blades edge-on though.Isn't that 1 pixel?
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We don't exactly see any of the blades edge-on though.Isn't that 1 pixel?
Would it be fairer to assume 1 millimeter? Is that acceptable?We don't exactly see any of the blades edge-on though.
Is that you're only issue with it then?We don't exactly see any of the blades edge-on though.
Also curious what others think about this, if this is the norm I'll apply it.because all of ichigo's swing are in a circular motion. If you pause or slowdown the video you can see it. Rather than straight lines they are circular swings. In that case 120 would be the safest assumption and 140 would would be the normal assumption.
Is that you're only issue with it then?
Yeah, 120 is more accurate, since are full semi-circular swing, 90 should be too low.Also curious what others think about this, if this is the norm I'll apply it.
Regarding this isn't the accepted reiatsu crush range for captains like 4km? or am I pulling this out of my ass? Also, Aizen and Yama >>>>>> everyone else there at the moment, so I'd argue that the reiatsu crush range is entirely or majority in part due to Yama and Aizen. The ranges shouldn't sum either, because if Yama walks in with a range of 22km and Soifon has a range of 4km (numbers for the example bare with me) then would it not be that the max range is still 22km (rather than 26 if we were adding) and that the inner 4km range just has denser/deadlier reiatsu crush.Shunsui Soul Society Speed Calc
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Ok, I'm going to wait to see what Damage says about his other issues with the calc, before I make any changes. It would increase the final values by 1.33x if you're curious tho.Yeah, 120 is more accurate, since are full circular swing, 90 should be too low.
Try to add an end with 120.
I think you're right about that.btw I have no idea how the calculation works but when ichigo slashes the petals he slashes the petals that are behind him. I feel like this calc just calculates ichigo slashing the 100 million petals if they were in from of him rather than in all directions so the distance covered is much less.
Idk, I might just be speaking nonsense. Anyway, I'll just wait for damage to comment since it would be no use working on it so much if it gets rejected.
I agree with this, additional Reitasu isn't cumulative to the Reiatsu's distance. One's Reiatsu doesn't add to someone else's range.Regarding this isn't the accepted reiatsu crush range for captains like 4km? or am I pulling this out of my ass? Also, Aizen and Yama >>>>>> everyone else there at the moment, so I'd argue that the reiatsu crush range is entirely or majority in part due to Yama and Aizen. The ranges shouldn't sum either, because if Yama walks in with a range of 22km and Soifon has a range of 4km (numbers for the example bare with me) then would it not be that the max range is still 22km (rather than 26 if we were adding) and that the inner 4km range just has denser/deadlier reiatsu crush.
That's right, so 22km is the minimun I guess.I agree with this, additional Reitasu isn't cumulative to the Reiatsu's distance. One's Reiatsu doesn't add to someone else's range.
A Shinigami's Reiatsu surrounds their body and expands outwards. The only thing that multiple high Reitasu levels could possibly do is make the area where they are fighting extremely dense with Reiatsu, but it shouldn't expand the range of the Reiatsu.
If someone is being affected by Reitasu an "x" distance away, then that means that at least one of the persons who is fighting has Reitasu that goes out that far.
Someone's reiatsu crush range is a product of their reiatsu alone.> I agree with this, additional Reitasu isn't cumulative to the Reiatsu's distance. One's Reiatsu doesn't add to someone else's range. A Shinigami's Reiatsu surrounds their body and expands outwards. The only thing that multiple high Reitasu levels could possibly do is make the area where they are fighting extremely dense with Reiatsu, but it shouldn't expand the range of the Reiatsu.
What makes you say that?
From my reading of the page, the fact that the ordinary Hollows are cowering and how some of them are even being damaged and killed from a distance, is from the passive effects of gathering a large number of extremely powerful fighters together.
The story doesn't focus on any one particular fighter there being responsible for the effects; it looks like it is supposed to be a productive of their cumulative Reiatsu.
The problem with that is this:Regarding the "Ichigo deflects Byakuya's Bankai" feat. The biggest issue with is assuming that Ichigo had to hit every single one of Byakuya's blades physically, all 100 million of them, based on him deflecting Byakuya's Bankai.
Byakuya's statement of Ichigo deflecting his Bankai would still be true even if Ichigo didn't physically hit each one. The shockwaves from his sword swings would clear out large swaths of them and repel them back; petals that Ichigo would would also fly back into the ones still heading his way.
I've spoken to DDM, Jvando and Matthew Shchroeder who agree with this issue regarding the feat.
What? no, why would we assume there are invisible shockwaves? Kubo displays when characters use air pressure, look at the Ginjo vs Ichigo fight.are there shockwaves that are not visible and are contained just enough to hit the petals and nothing more ? so, like ichigo can mentally control shockwaves ?
I refuted that in my previous post. That would be an assumption not backed by what we see in the panel nor by what Byakuya says.but isn't that what damage is suggesting that ichigo's swing are creating invisible shockwave that are actually attacking the petals and ichigo only swung his sword only a few times ?
but isn't that what damage is suggesting that ichigo's swing are creating invisible shockwave that are actually attacking the petals and ichigo only swung his sword only a few times ?
Why is that a lot more reasonable? "a lot more reasonable" is your headcanon and not at all refutation.I'm saying that it is a lot more reasonable that Ichigo swung his sword less than tens of thousands of times in a split-second - and that the force from his strikes didn't just stop at hitting a few blades at a time, but he was knocking back huge numbers of them with each swing of his sword.
Because the range and strength of Reiatsu are dependent on a person's own Reiatsu.> I agree with this, additional Reitasu isn't cumulative to the Reiatsu's distance. One's Reiatsu doesn't add to someone else's range. A Shinigami's Reiatsu surrounds their body and expands outwards. The only thing that multiple high Reitasu levels could possibly do is make the area where they are fighting extremely dense with Reiatsu, but it shouldn't expand the range of the Reiatsu.
What makes you say that?
From my reading of the page, the fact that the ordinary Hollows are cowering and how some of them are even being damaged and killed from a distance, is from the passive effects of gathering a large number of extremely powerful fighters together.
The story doesn't focus on any one particular fighter there being responsible for the effects; it looks like it is supposed to be a productive of their cumulative Reiatsu.
I don't really care what I sound like. I've spoken about this topic with three other staff members who have agreed with me after looking at the feat and the calc.@Damage3245 - You sound like you are dismissing a calc or coming up with theories to fit what you think characters speed should be rather than what it is ? You sure you want to go forward with a mindset like that ?
Dismissing the claims at your motives. You have yet to refute any of our points, meanwhile we have provided plenty refutation for your "shockwave" argument.I don't really care what I sound like. I've spoken about this topic with three other staff members who have agreed with me after looking at the feat and the calc.
I can only deal with a certain number of posts at a time. I'm jumping in and out of this thread when I can.Dismissing the claims at your motives. You have yet to refute any of our points, meanwhile we have provided plenty refutation for your "shockwave" argument.
You ignore the points we make against you, only commenting when someone attacks your motives.
Also, x, y, and z agreeing with you is not an argument. Especially when your claim is refuted thoroughly by multiple people.
Would you like me to post a recalc using cross sections?I can only deal with a certain number of posts at a time. I'm jumping in and out of this thread when I can.
> Byakuya says "impossible he swatted them all away" as if to draw attention to the fact that Ichigo hit every petal.
Your calc only makes the assumption of the number of petals that can physically touching Ichigo's blade; ignoring that as he is moving his blade through what is essentially a dense cloud of petals, he will be knocking his sword into more than just what his sword could touch.
Picture it like this; when his sword first strikes the cloud of Senbonzakura, it will go:
Sword -> Layer of petals.
Then as his sword continues moving through the clouds it will go:
Sword -> Layer of petals -> Second layer of petals -> Third layer of petals, etc.
You're assuming that every time he swings his sword through Senbonzakura he is only knocking back as many petals as what can physically touch his sword itself.
I will work on that and drop it in here once it's finished.
Then why bring up a shockwave that is not even implied or drawn or alluded to? To say Ichigo used a shockwave and he didn't actually cut up not even 1/100th of the actual number of blades? Especially when literally in the next scene Ichigo blitzes to right behind Byakuya