The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) VS Lucifer Morningstar

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Anyhow with the current way we view the cosmology of Marvel... Which I'm planning to change after the Upgrade thread is finished sometime this year... Beyonder is merely somewhat above baseline 1-A to a otherwise Unknown degree. Meanwhile, Lucifer is definitely extremely far into the tier no matter the interpretation. Lucy has the advantage in AP in spades.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Shouldn't current Marvel be a.bit weaker?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Uhh.... I meant I'm planning to change the cosmology as in how some of the universes work which was consistent throughout supposed "retcons" of the verse...Not the characters in comparison to their previous selves or "one version of Marvel from the next".

But based on how it currently is Lucy plays with the head of Beyonder, wraps it into a ball, transmutates it into flowers , and gives it to Mazikeen as an apology to doing her wrong in the final chapters of Lucifer.

 

[Deleted member 2530]

Yeah. Lucy does take this rather easily

 

[MYHERO]

How far is he in? Far enough to shitstomp Masadaverse?

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

@MYHERO No, still nowhere near the hadou gods.

 

[MYHERO]

Those guys are like 80-90x outerversal correct?

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Yes some of them are 50x which is like The Presence of DC Comics. Lucifer is like 2-3x above baseline 1-A.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Yes

 

[MYHERO]

I would make a joke about how weak Lucifer is, but being 1-A alone already warrants my respect.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Logan Paul

 

[Owennoctis]

Lucifer erases Beyonder along with marvel with a snap of his finger

 

[DarkHunter89]

my guy you can get banned for that type of insults

He is not even trying to debate. I have provided scans and what not but all he does is refuse to believe it and doesn't even show any proof to any of his claim. He is just being stubborn
Something that is very typical for Luci fanboys.

 

[The_Impress]

Can you guys like, knock it off? This match isn't being added, and is definitely one of the most toxic threads I've been a part of. Either contribute something that has any significance to the original topic, or don't at all, since all you're doing afterwards is insulting the characters as well as one another

 

[DarkHunter89]

Lucifer erases Beyonder along with marvel with a snap of his finger

Good joke.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

He is right tho If you only stoped being a fanboy then you would accept it

 

[BleedingPeach]

Considering that people likes to think that they are right and others opinion is irrelevant. If Lucifer looses against Beyonder, why? Explain your point of view, or else you're nothing more than an another internet ignorant. Leaving that asides, the same could be said about Beyonder, he can defeat Morningstar, can you please explain your point of view?

 

[DarkHunter89]

Considering that people likes to think that they are right and others opinion is irrelevant. If Lucifer looses against Beyonder, why? Explain your point of view, or else you're nothing more than an another internet ignorant. Leaving that asides, the same could be said about Beyonder, he can defeat Morningstar, can you please explain your point of view?

It's not about who can defeat who, it's about the most overrated character from a shitty series getting wanked to heaven and back.

I mean, yeah maybe he can defeat Beyonder (I have my doubts about that), but can he solo the marvel universe? I highly doubt it. But I guess saying that makes me a Beyonder fanboy.

 

[DarkHunter89]

Lucifer erases Beyonder along with marvel with a snap of his finger

This is the shit I'm talking about.

God, I hate this character so much. And I hate Mike Carey and Neil Gaiman for writing such a shitty mary sue character.

 

[The_Impress]

That's it, this thread has been officially derailed, asking for this to be locked

 

[DarkHunter89]

That's it, this thread has been officially derailed

It always does in the case of Lucifer.

 

[Tonybalongna]

my guy you can get banned for that type of insults

He is not even trying to debate. I have provided scans and what not but all he does is refuse to believe it and doesn't even show any proof to any of his claim. He is just being stubbor

Something that is very typical for Luci fanboys.
so, beyonder wins?

 

[DarkHunter89]

my guy you can get banned for that type of insults

He is not even trying to debate. I have provided scans and what not but all he does is refuse to believe it and doesn't even show any proof to any of his claim. He is just being stubbor

Something that is very typical for Luci fanboys.

so, beyonder wins?
Like I said, in my opinion it can go both ways. My point was about the amount of wank Lucifer gets on pretty much every site in the internet where he's mentioned. Also his profile is still filled with stuff that just flat out isn't true at all, but won't get changed even though I contacted the admins on this side.

 

[The_Impress]

Also his profile is still filled with stuff that just flat out isn't true at all, but won't get changed even though I contacted the admins on this side.

A. Don't quote text walls

B. Make a CRT if you want any changes to be made, not contact admins individually

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Well, if you are so sure why don't you go and make a CRT to downgrade him? Because as things are right now Lucy stomps soo hard the whole Marvel Multiverse feels it.

This

 

[LordUrien935]

@Darkhunter89 Can you like, stop whining? No one gives a shit on what you think about a character. The only thing that matters here is who wins, and going by cosmology, Lucifer stomps all of Marvel except TOAA.

 

[DarkHunter89]

@Darkhunter89 Can you like, stop whining? No one gives a shit on what you think about a character. The only thing that matters here is who wins, and going by cosmology, Lucifer stomps all of Marvel except TOAA.

I wouldn't whine if people wouldn't always yell "Lucifer lolstomps everything" in every single vs battle. Like I said, I don't really care if Luci stomps Beyonder here, he might, I don't have a bone in this game.

The things I have a problem with is the amount of wank Lucifer gets. Not only that, but also Lucifers page has false information. Same with Gabriel, they seem to have false information so that Lucifer can seem stronger than he is.