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The Bakugan Files

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I don't think anyone could have expected this kind of turnout. XD

Anyway, Wavern's profile is most likely next, since we have essentially everything for her... Just gotta actually make it.

Also, Should Wavern with Infinity Core have MFTL or MFTL+ speed? I would assume that MFTL should be good enough, since she literally was far inferior to her brother, Naga, and he really just wiped the floor with her, too.
 
That should be good if you have everything settled for Wavern.

Hmm. I presume so. Though technically a character that's MFTL+ can still be blitzed or be inferior to someone in speed within the same speed level. But i think MFTL is fine enough. Naga seems to be rated as Likely MFTL+ so that should be good enough for Wavern to be MFTL...
 
Yea MFTL should be good. Tho to be fair when Naga was beating her Wavern was already weakened. Of course Naga would still be much stronger regardless i just think the gap wouldnt be THAT big if Wavern was fighting him to her fullest potential
 
Also, a few things before we proceed.

The infinity Core can do the following: Revive the dead, sprout life (planet life) in barron areas, and heal the sick or wounded.

Wavern herself never used that last one, despite the fact that she said she could. She just felt it would be selfish of her to use the Infinity Core like that.


So for Wavern and Infinity Drago, shouldn't they both have Regenerationn on their profiles?


Also, going back to Naga, his energy was actually not only affecting the Human universe and the universe of Vestroia, but the Universe of the Vestols, as he was causing Bakugan to go into that universe when he was alive. :/

And to specify, he didn't just have influence on one universe, that one being on Vestroia. He also was the one causing the human universe and the universe of Vestroia to collide and collapse on each other, as well as reaching out to a third universe, though just barely. So he is a little stronger then we last expected...
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Also, a few things before we proceed.
The infinity Core can do the following: Revive the dead, sprout life (planet life) in barron areas, and heal the sick or wounded.

Wavern herself never used that last one, despite the fact that she said she could. She just felt it would be selfish of her to use the Infinity Core like that.


So for Wavern and Infinity Drago, shouldn't they both have Regenerationn on their profiles?


Also, going back to Naga, his energy was actually not only affecting the Human universe and the universe of Vestroia, but the Universe of the Vestols, as he was causing Bakugan to go into that universe when he was alive. :/

And to specify, he didn't just have influence on one universe, that one being on Vestroia. He also was the one causing the human universe and the universe of Vestroia to collide and collapse on each other, as well as reaching out to a third universe, though just barely. So he is a little stronger then we last expected...
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Yea i agree I remember Wavern saying that. Even though she said it would be selfish she technically didnt tell Joe she couldnt use it on her. So it should be added. Should it count for Naga as well? After all, the white ones are a species of Bakugan that have a very short life span, meaning Naga already was reaching death at a very fast rate (judging by his base appearance he just looks all old and degraded) and the Silent Core fusing with him not only kept him alive, it also straight up evolved him into a far more powerful, healither form. Adding to this, Naga was also able to absorb a considerable amount of energy from the Inifnity Core when Drago attacked him so it should be a likely possibilty that if he had some of the Infinity Core's energy during that, he could also use the same abilities as it can.

I also agree with that. So both Silent Naga and Infinity Drago should be "At least 3-A" And Wavern should be bumped to 3-A, likely a bit higher or "At Least 3-B"

Also i believe Base Naga deserves a huge upgrade out of tier 8. My reason is because when Naga reached the center of Vestroia, he was able to absorb a large amount of the Silent Core's energy and when he got sucked into it, he not only pushed the Infinity Core right through the dimensions by force, he also sent a shockwave throughout the Vestroia universe that started the destruction of the six worlds. This shockwave was even felt in the human world like during Dan and one of his friends brawls. That made it possible for Dan to see Drago in his vision. And the human universe is an enitrely different time-space then Vestroia. Naga was responsible for all of this (Drago even admits this a few times in S1) and all of this hasnt negatively effected Naga in the slightest. The only thing that was problematic for him was him being restrained inside the Silent Core. Other than that, Naga was perfectly fine throughout all that was happening on Vestroia after he messed with the cores. So his base form should be boosted far higher, like maybe 3-B or at the absolute least, say "At Least 8-B, possibly Far Higher)

Anyone agree?
 
I'm willing to add Regenerationn to Wavern, Silent Naga and Infintiy drago.

I think that, at the least, we should say "At Least 3-A, probably higher" for Drago and Naga, and for Wavern "At Least 3-B, possibly higher"

And as for Naga's base form, I think it would be fine to add in "At least 8-B, possibly far higher".


Also, Hydranoid should have Regenerationn as well, due to growing back a head that was blown off as Daul Hydranoid.
 
I think 3-A is more appropriate, Gimmy. Anime4Life. Another thing to note is that putting "At least" behind 3-A implies that the character is capable of doing Universe busting power at a minimum, and that the next level is like either having infinite 3-D power (High 3-A) or 4-D power on a universal scale (Low 2-C).

So......yeah. 3-A for Drago should be good enough here.
 
Yeah. It's an odd case but i've been told of this before. Then again we have a Digimon character that's At least 3-A. Forgot why tho.

But just to keep it safe and sound, putting 3-A is good enough as is. *Nods*
 
So keep Drago and Naga at 3-A? Sure, that means no changes to them, I suppose.

So for Wavern, we should probably just have it at 3-B like we intended, since the only reason we were gonna put "At least 3-B, possibly higher" is because of the Drago and Naga change... Which isn't happening now.

Regenerationn should likely still be added for Drago, Naga and Wavern, as well as Hydranoid.

Also, thinking about it, I think Naga's low level power should remain the same as well, because him even interacting with the cores at all could have likely been the cause for the shifting of Vestroia and the human Universe.
 
True but the fact that he could absorb so much power from the Silent Core and not get destroyed after the overload, or get even slightly harmed when Vestroia was starting its destruction and shifting the human universe should strongly suggest he in base is way higher than 8-B, especially when his 8-B rating is due just to his sheer size, not even counting his bases actual AP or stats.
 
But the whole deal with Naga at the start is that he curses himself for being weak, and he goes to the Silent Core to gain power. If he was already that powerful, he wouldn't need to go to the core, as he'd be superior to literally everyone else that was still alive at the time.
 
Good point, but I was refering to Naga doing both of those things as a feat in itself xD

It mightive been since he and the Silent Core we're compatable so he wasnt immiedately obliterated.
 
I got more hax for Naga to be added after rewatching a few episodes. Sorry lmao

Anyway's, i believe that resistance to time manipulation and illusion/image creation should be added to his profile.

Now the reason why i suggest this is because in one episode of Bakugan, there were 5 brawlers, Chan Lee, Comba, Juilo, Billy and Klaus, who were all in a Bakugan battle royal. And as you can clearly remember, when a Bakugan battle takes place time in the human world gradually goes to a full stop. So whenever there are Bakugan battles, time itself as a whole stops moving. However, Masquarade was able to pop in on them during their battle actually. So that should mean Masquarade somehow is able to do whatever he wants without being effected by the time stop. And since Masqurade in general was created by Naga, Naga should logicially have the same abilities as the one he manipulates. And thats why Naga should have resistance to time manipulation hax (though not infinite speed since it would be ridiculous to think Masquarade under any circumstance would be able to aquire that).

As for the Image/Ilusion creation, Naga should also have that because during the 5's bakugan battle royale, Naga was able to make them see him during their brawl, like when Dan saw Drago in his vision and then they were all returned back to the real world.

In fact Naga might even have limited willpower manipulation since the Silent Core's negative energy, or Minus Power, is able to corrupt not only other Bakugan, but also other humans and give them different wills and personas that he can manipulate to his liking at all times, such as Masquarade and Hal G

Anyone agree with this?
 
I am still slightly iffy on the Time Manipulation thing, though it is possible.

Also, I think that Image Creation/Illusions should be fine.

Anyone have any thoughts or disagreements with the Time manipulation thing?
 
I mean its debatable that Naga may or may not have it. Though he should logically have it if Masqurade is able to move during a time stop. Alice (who IS Masquarade as a different persona) was even able to move during a time stop when Christopher was in a brawl and she could telepathically speak to Christopher during his brawl. And all of Alice's/Masqurade's abilities were given to them by Naga (justifed by his ability to give powers written on his own profile). So if they arent effected by a time stop, then Naga should logically have at least resistance to it.
 
Sounds fair to me, I suppose.

However, would this mean that he can stop time, or merely move within stopped time? That is an important difference that I would like to establish, if possible.
 
IIRC Dr. Michael himself explained that the Bakugan cards that make brawls possible were simply energy bodies or something like that from the Bakugan. And Naga has had cards already with him before he even met Dr. Michael. I'd say if Naga can stop time he can using those cards, however, since Bakugan battles on Vestroia dont remotely effect time like they do in the human universe, it should be noted, if at all, that Naga could only stop time if the vs battles take place outside Vestroia. As for moving in a time stop, it could be just resistance to time freezing.
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
So Time Stop outside of Vestroia, and resistence to Time Stop outside of Vestroia

Would that sum it up?
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Well for the time stop yea but he should still be able to resist the time stop in or out of Vestroia regardless if time in Vestroia ever came to a stop. It's only him stopping time that should be limited. Resistance should be fine anywhere else.

Also just one last thing i'll bring up and it should cover Naga's new hax for the night (and Waverns and Drago's technically): Shouldnt they be given some type of immortality? My reasoning is because despite Drago killing her in the end, Wavern still exists in Vestroia as a spirit of some sorts that has interactions in the Bakugan universe and helps protect the Perfect Core. She even made an official apperance again in S4 with Dan and Drago. If Wavern can still live on as a roaming free spirit after Death, then Silent Naga should be given the same treatment as his sister. Adding to this, coming from the Bakugan wikia, apparently after Drago defeated Naga, Naga was sent to the Doom Dimension.....

Naga, someone who was obliterated to literally nothing, was just sent to the Doom Dimension and not be killed? Going by this statement, despite being trapped him living on as a Spirit after his battle with Infinity Drago should definitely be considered some type of immortality but im not sure which one

Finally, Perfect Core Drago should be given the same treatment as well since he became the very core that stabilzes the Bakugan universe and as such, his existence is crucial for its survival. Adding the fact he is omnipresent in his and the human universe as well.

Any problems with this?
 
I'm fine with that. For Wavern, Drago and Naga, they should probably be Type 2 Immortality . Reason being that, while they can technically heal themselves, their regen can't save them from "death", and their physical body can still be hurt and maimed.

And as for Perfect Drago, I am not sure what type of immortailty he would have.

Also, I will likely edit in these changes for Naga by tomorrow, should the all be agreed upon and such.
 
It just occured to me... That maybe Wavern shouldn't be 3-B. Sure, she has the Infinity Core, but she hardly uses it at all. and she isn't even considered an Ultimate bakugan like Silent Naga or Infinity Drago. I think the best we can do for her upgraded form is to compare her to Dual Hydranoid, who she beat in combat with trouble.

Plus, using the Infinity Core's power too much brings great pain on her and could possibly be too much for her body to handle, so she is then limited to having to struggle fighting Dual Hydranoid.


Either all of that, or we make a third Key, which would then specify what would happen should she actually use the Infinity Core to improve her body (Which she wouldn't considering she thinks it would be a waste of the Core's power).


Any thoughts?
 
I wouldnt say that. She has used its power to at least restore things back to life and everything, even healing Joe of his sickness.

But a third key is a good option for her too, just so it wont look unfair or anything.
 
Nah not possibly MFTL+. She at least defeated Duel Hydranoid with ease, only gaining slight trouble via the core acting up within her. And Hyrdranoid in general is far above the likes of the low tier Bakugan who are FTL and some FTL+ i believe
 
Oh, I was talking about the third key. The third key is about Wavern if she restored her body and finally made full use of the Core, which would allow us to rank it at "Possibly 3-B" and "Possibly MFTL+", but only in Key three.

In the Second Key, the one that would hold her power and speed on equal footing with Dual Hydranoid, would most likely be rated as "At least FTL+". We don't know Dual Hydranoid's power yet, since nobody calced the D Strike Attack from Delta Drago.
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Oh, I was talking about the third key. The third key is about Wavern if she restored her body and finally made full use of the Core, which would allow us to rank it at "Possibly 3-B" and "Possibly MFTL+", but only in Key three.
In the Second Key, the one that would hold her power and speed on equal footing with Dual Hydranoid, would most likely be rated as "At least FTL+". We don't know Dual Hydranoid's power yet, since nobody calced the D Strike Attack from Delta Drago.
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Ohh okay.

True, but even without the D Strike calc we could still scale Dual Hydranoid off of low tier bakugans and there are feats of them such as making the entire battle area flaming on fire or even better, 2 or more Aquas Bakugan on the field can cause Tsunami waves with just there mere presence on the field. And if I recall, Tsunami's can cause destruction to entire cities....
 
To be fair, those Tsunamis looked rather small scale... And even if there was an explosion the size of a Gate card, wouldn't it probably end up as City Block+ or maybe low MCB?
 
Yea low MCB would be good. But then again, it was just made through sheer presence alone. I wonder what would occur if Aquas Bakugan actually imputed something of their own accord into it xD. And any Bakugan is City Block to City Block+ just from their size anyway.
 
Hmm. Have any of y'all ever watched the sub versions of the show before?

The reason i asked this was someone mentioned to me in chat about me having watched Bakugan (which is true and it was a good show). What happened tho was that the same person told me in that the japanese (or was it Portuguese sub version?) sub version that the.....6 chosen warriors or whatever (it's been a really long time when i last watched it) was something of a galactic size rather than Universal.

Basically, Bakugan in the original subs are like Galaxy level (or 3-C) rather than 3-B to 3-A as y'all have discussed.

I didn't want to burst y'all's fun on this but knew it was likely to be brought up sooner or later in any way.

Though i can't really confirm this as Youtube has taken down the sub versions (from what i've been told in chat the other day). So....take it what you will with it?

I mean the profiles are likely still fine atm. I'm at least just asking and dropping this over to inform y'all about it. Again, i can't really confirm solidly. Just only by what i've been told of...
 
I have looked for subs but never found them. Only thing I found were like the Japanese Openings.
 
Really? All the subs? Man Bakugan had it rough for them on the subs.

Well it's whatever. Once again like i said, i've only been told of this in chat but not shown of the videos of what scale of power Bakugan is.

Since we only have the dub versions available (is that right?), we'll just have to scale them going there. Especially on the 3-B to 3-A rating, i mean...
 
I think we were going to rate the 6 Warriors of Vestroia as 3-C anyway? I'd look back through the thread right now, but I can get lost in here at times... :/

Or did you mean to say that Vestroia was actually galaxy size as opposed to being a full on universe, and therefore it would bring a downgrade to Naga and Infinity Drago?
 
@Gimmy: From what i've been told of in chat the other day, yes.

Oh yes, i meant the Vestoria thing too....or was it the 6 Warriors? I forgot the details of it correctly but it's related to those two.

But this is if we're going by the subs. I can't confirm it as Dragon couldn't find any.
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
Hmm. Have any of y'all ever watched the sub versions of the show before?
The reason i asked this was someone mentioned to me in chat about me having watched Bakugan (which is true and it was a good show). What happened tho was that the same person told me in that the japanese (or was it Portuguese sub version?) sub version that the.....6 chosen warriors or whatever (it's been a really long time when i last watched it) was something of a galactic size rather than Universal.

Basically, Bakugan in the original subs are like Galaxy level (or 3-C) rather than 3-B to 3-A as y'all have discussed.

I didn't want to burst y'all's fun on this but knew it was likely to be brought up sooner or later in any way.

Though i can't really confirm this as Youtube has taken down the sub versions (from what i've been told in chat the other day). So....take it what you will with it?

I mean the profiles are likely still fine atm. I'm at least just asking and dropping this over to inform y'all about it. Again, i can't really confirm solidly. Just only by what i've been told of...
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The japonese version is the original one, so it's appreciated to search for stats and feats there and not the other version where the script is different for censorship reasons and fake statements of bigger or lower stats changes.
 
From what I researched( Wiki). Season one was released in Japan first but wasn't popular. However, only the Canadian and US versions got the other seasons. However, I can't find any subs, only the original dub. The US and Candian dubs should be the same however.
 
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