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The Bakugan Files

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Chan Lee's Bakugan technically managed to survive a hit from Silent Naga. Although it was sent into Ball Form, it still lived. I don't think that it really matters that Skyress survived a hit or two from Silent Naga. It should also be noted that Hal-G was merely surprised that Shun saw through his lie. But when hydranoid appeared near the end of the battle between Drago and Naga, Hal-G excalimed his worries over Alpha Hydranoid entering combat against Naga.

By technicality, it's power level did lower from 550Gs to 500Gs when New Vestroia started to air, but Storm Skyress is still at 450Gs. The other Bakugan like Preyas and Gorem have 500Gs, so during the events of New Vestroia, they COULD be equals, but using the "G" Power Levels aren't really reliable for scaling.

So technically Alpha Hydranoid should still be superior to Skyress.


Also, in this clip we get to see Alpha Hydranoid snipes those two Bakugan, and the blast seems to be similar in size to the massive, mountain-sized rock structures nearby (In the clip shown, you can see the rock structures peaking in form the sides of the screen as the blast begins to encompass them). So do you think that this could be used to find some kind of Power output?
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Chan Lee's Bakugan technically managed to survive a hit from Silent Naga. Although it was sent into Ball Form, it still lived. I don't think that it really matters that Skyress survived a hit or two from Silent Naga. It should also be noted that Hal-G was merely surprised that Shun saw through his lie. But when hydranoid appeared near the end of the battle between Drago and Naga, Hal-G excalimed his worries over Alpha Hydranoid entering combat against Naga.
By technicality, it's power level did lower from 550Gs to 500Gs when New Vestroia started to air, but Storm Skyress is still at 450Gs. The other Bakugan like Preyas and Gorem have 500Gs, so during the events of New Vestroia, they COULD be equals, but using the "G" Power Levels aren't really reliable for scaling.

So technically Alpha Hydranoid should still be superior to Skyress.


Also, in this clip we get to see Alpha Hydranoid snipes those two Bakugan, and the blast seems to be similar in size to the massive, mountain-sized rock structures nearby (In the clip shown, you can see the rock structures peaking in form the sides of the screen as the blast begins to encompass them). So do you think that this could be used to find some kind of Power output?
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Hmm good point. And yea that could be usuable for Power Output
 
This is off topic, but can someone brush me up on what Bakugan is about? I watched like 8 years ago (Still have a Waver in my room somewhere), and all I remember is it had some equivalent to Yugioh's graveyard, them going through some alternate world and getting their monsters upgraded, and the final part.
 
FanofRPGs said:
This is off topic, but can someone brush me up on what Bakugan is about? I watched like 8 years ago (Still have a Waver in my room somewhere), and all I remember is it had some equivalent to Yugioh's graveyard, them going through some alternate world and getting their monsters upgraded, and the final part.
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Bunch of small balls which can unroll to form small toys representing Bakugan (monsters from separate dimension called Vestroia) along with ability cards appear on Earth. Kids use them to form a game. One kid in particular, who's the best among the rest; Dan Kuso, ends up finding a Bakugan called Drago, who is trying to stop an evil conspiracy from destroying his home and loved ones. Together, they team up and kick ass, while overcoming some personal issues along the way.

Next seasons introduce a variety of villains from alternate dimensions including the Vestals (who conquered New Vestroia), the Gundalians (conquered Neathia, a separate planet with other aliens who use Bakugan) and so on.
 
Bunch of small balls which can unroll to form small toys representing Bakugan (monsters from separate dimension called Vestroia) along with ability cards appear on Earth. Kids use them to form a game. One kid in particular, who's the best among the rest; Dan Kuso, ends up finding a Bakugan called Drago, who is trying to stop an evil conspiracy from destroying his home and loved ones. Together, they team up and kick ass, while overcoming some personal issues along the way.

Next seasons introduce a variety of villains from alternate dimensions including the Vestals (who conquered New Vestroia), the Gundalians (conquered Neathia, a separate planet with other aliens who use Bakugan) and so on.

Sounds eerily like Yugioh
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Chan Lee's Bakugan technically managed to survive a hit from Silent Naga. Although it was sent into Ball Form, it still lived. I don't think that it really matters that Skyress survived a hit or two from Silent Naga. It should also be noted that Hal-G was merely surprised that Shun saw through his lie. But when hydranoid appeared near the end of the battle between Drago and Naga, Hal-G excalimed his worries over Alpha Hydranoid entering combat against Naga.
By technicality, it's power level did lower from 550Gs to 500Gs when New Vestroia started to air, but Storm Skyress is still at 450Gs. The other Bakugan like Preyas and Gorem have 500Gs, so during the events of New Vestroia, they COULD be equals, but using the "G" Power Levels aren't really reliable for scaling.

So technically Alpha Hydranoid should still be superior to Skyress.


Also, in this clip we get to see Alpha Hydranoid snipes those two Bakugan, and the blast seems to be similar in size to the massive, mountain-sized rock structures nearby (In the clip shown, you can see the rock structures peaking in form the sides of the screen as the blast begins to encompass them). So do you think that this could be used to find some kind of Power output?
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Just to use this as a reply, i think its also worth mentioning that Bakugan are not only capable of using their abilities on their own, they are also capable of combining them too since the start of New Vestroia. Like Double Abilities, Triple Abiliites, Fusion Abilities, etc.

It might be NLFish but how far would their attacks go once they've been fused or added onto each other?
 
I'm not sure just how powerful comboing the abilities would be, but it does sound fair to me.

Also, if I were to somehow find the radius of the blast from Alpha Hydranoid in that video I have in that comment, couldn't we just use some kind of explosion calculator and see how much force it may have? Because if so, then I could possibly find an output for it on my own. If not, I could just make another request on the Calc Request thread.
 
Wait what? When did that happen? We treat Perfect Core Drago as his strongest form due to having the complete powers of the Infinity and Silent Cores while his later evolutions are involved around only having a spark of the core and evolving from that point onwards. Not to mention Perfect Core Drago reshaping the Vestroia universe just by becoming its core is better than any of his later forms feat wise.
 
Foodiefight said:
drago strongest form is his aeroblitz
it could posibbly be 2 tier or 3?
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Really? I was under the impression that Perfect Core Drago was the strongest... I mean, I know that Fusion/Aeroblitz Drago is the final form Drago takes, but what exactly does he have at that point that would put him above Perfect Core Drago?


Also, to actually answer your question, if Aeroblitz IS stronger the Perfect Core (Which I personally doubt), then it would probably be rated as "At least 2-C, possibly higher".
 
Ah, alright


Anime4 and I discussed this earlier, but we decided that it isn't very reliable to scale off of G Power levels, since that would make a lot of Bakugan way stronger then they should be.

Although Aeroblitz Drago should still be the most powerful form of Drago outside of Infinity Drago and Perfect Core Drago, right?
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Foodiefight said:
drago strongest form is his aeroblitz
it could posibbly be 2 tier or 3?
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Really? I was under the impression that Perfect Core Drago was the strongest... I mean, I know that Fusion/Aeroblitz Drago is the final form Drago takes, but what exactly does he have at that point that would put him above Perfect Core Drago?


Also, to actually answer your question, if Aeroblitz IS stronger the Perfect Core (Which I personally doubt), then it would probably be rated as "At least 2-C, possibly higher".
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and yes, his aeroblitz form is the strongest fusion form of drago

and perfect core was the strongest evolve form of drago
 
It shouldnt be because every form Drago has evovled into after S1 is being based off of his New Vestroia form which is drastically weaker then his Perfect Core form. He after a while was only given a small spark of the Perfect Core and then has evolved from other sources such as the attribute energies, the element, the sarcred orbs power, etc. Despite them being strong, they are still revolving around that little amount of power from the core. That means even at the end of the series Drago has never gotten back the complete power of the Pefect Core, no where close to it. That should mean all his later forms should scale to Perfect Core Drago, unless these other power sources are stronger then the perfect core (which i highly doubt).

Plus, Perfect Core Drago has better feats than any of his later forms from what i can remember. He casually reshaped the Vestroia universe back to its original form just by becoming the core to it, meaning he could likely do much more than that when effort is involved. Thats even better than Dragonoid and Dharknoids' feat of separating the original universe into 2 separate ones (the one that contains Vestroia and the other that contains Neitha and Gundaila). What has Aeroblitz Drago done to top Perfect Drago's feat?
 
Wait, didn't Titanium Drago gain the power of the original Dragonoid, who could rip dimensions apart alongside the original Dharaknoid? If so, then that form and Fusion Drago should TECHNICALLY be extremely powerful, being at least 3-A or something.

Also, I think this particular thing may have been brought up earlier in this thread.
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Wait, didn't Titanium Drago gain the power of the original Dragonoid, who could rip dimensions apart alongside the original Dharaknoid? If so, then that form and Fusion Drago should TECHNICALLY be extremely powerful, being at least 3-A or something.
Also, I think this particular thing may have been brought up earlier in this thread.
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Yea i did. I was using it to scale towards Perfect Core Drago to maybe give him an upgrade. The problem with the original Dragonoid is, although it doing that with Dharaknoid is impressive, that is its only feat besides being the origin of all Vestroain Bakugan. So it has a lot of unknowns

In all honesty, Perfect Core Drago should be stronger because he was capable of warping the very universe Dragonoid got for himself practically effortlessly. Meaning Perfect Core Drago could possibly do much more than when he restored Vestroia
 
Well, I agree that Perfect Core Drago is the strongest form Drago has, but I do think that a proper rating for power in terms of Titanium Drago is 3-A, while Low 2-C could suffice for Fusion/Aeroblitz Drago.

This would be suitable for it's feats, and it would still be lower then Perfect Core Drago, as we could easily have Perfect Drago set at "At least Low 2-C, possibly higher".
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Well, I agree that Perfect Core Drago is the strongest form Drago has, but I do think that a proper rating for power in terms of Titanium Drago is 3-A, while Low 2-C could suffice for Fusion/Aeroblitz Drago.
This would be suitable for it's feats, and it would still be lower then Perfect Core Drago, as we could easily have Perfect Drago set at "At least Low 2-C, possibly higher".
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This. So much of this

Unless.....does Fusion/Aeroblitz Drago scale towards Perfect Drago? If so, then wouldnt Perfect Drago be possibly 2C? Or is that why you put possibly higher?
 
Well, it would seem that, no matter what, Perfect Drago's feat of saving two universe by merely taking that form is onpar with The original Dragonoid and Dharaknoid fighitng each other to the poin in splitting the universe in two.

Perfect Drago is likely higher then those two, but I don't think we have enough to say that he is solid 2-C, given what the requirements are for a legit 2-C character. The best we can give Perfect Drago is "At least 2-C, possibly higher" to cement the fact that, not only is he far stronger the the Original Dragonoid and Dharaknoid, but to show that he could actually be that powerful.

So yeah, that's why I put "Possibly Higher".
 
Ah k. Then yes that is a perfect rating for Perfect Core Drago

And we pretty much got the speed, durability and rating part done

Now all we have to do is list powers and abilities, standardized equipment, intelligence and stamina and we should be fine to update his profile
 
Alright, so, I think I may have found something interesting?

Depending on how you look at it, Alpha Hydranoid MIGHT be able to scale to Country level through Hades, his robot imposter.

The reason for this is because Hades fought Neo Dragonoid while in a somewhat weakened form, and Neo Dragonoid managed to Do this. Later Hades was blown to peices by Hydranoid, with Chan lee's Fourtress taking care of the Trap Bakugan that was assisting Hades.

The only thing that could make this all pointless is the fact that Drago had to use literally all of his ability cards and fight with maximum power in order to perform that feat. And even so, Hades was left worn out after having beaten Mega Nemus.


So, the question is, do Hades and Hydranoid scale to this or no?
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Alright, so, I think I may have found something interesting?
Depending on how you look at it, Alpha Hydranoid MIGHT be able to scale to Country level through Hades, his robot imposter.

The reason for this is because Hades fought Neo Dragonoid while in a somewhat weakened form, and Neo Dragonoid managed to Do this. Later Hades was blown to peices by Hydranoid, with Chan lee's Fourtress taking care of the Trap Bakugan that was assisting Hades.

The only thing that could make this all pointless is the fact that Drago had to use literally all of his ability cards and fight with maximum power in order to perform that feat. And even so, Hades was left worn out after having beaten Mega Nemus.


So, the question is, do Hades and Hydranoid scale to this or no?
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I REMEMBER THAT! I was trying to remember that feat for the life of me and now i remember. Isnt that Drago using his ability Strike Dragon? And wait Chan Lee was in that???

Hmm....I would say so. No harm in putting it now and see what happens later on.
 
Yeah, but Chan only provided support while Alpha Hydranoid fought Hades.

Alright, so now we have Country Level Alpha Hydranoid, Ultimate Dragonoid, Druman and Centirrior.

Now only Dual Hydranoid remains... Since Base Hydranoid would likely be City Block+, I just need to figure out the second form, and then we can edit Hydranoid's profile.
 
Well Dual Hydranoid basically wrecked Delta Drago in the battle he and Dan were sent to the Doom Dimension

And Delta Dragos ability, D Strike Attack can literally summon meteors during its attack phase, and it gets a huge boost from the other ability, D Strike Extreme. Maybe this can help.
 
While waiting for the calcs (If they are even going to be done), I thought of some material for the weakened versions of the Six Legendary Soldiers. Apollonir, the Pyrus Soldier, fought Neo Drago, who should be Country Level, and only won because he managed to break Spectra's control over Drago, and not because he was more powerful since Drago was kicking him around the whole time, indicating that he is weaker then Neo Drago, and so he is lower then Country Level.

Now, it would seem as though all of the other soldiers are equal to each other, and that would mean they are lower then Country level... So perhaps they are Large Island to Small Country? Depending on which is selected, that would mean Hammer Gorem, Angelo/Diablo Preyas, Storm Skyress and Blade Tigrerra would either be Small Country (Should Large Island be selected as the power of the Six Soldiers), or Small Country+ (Should Small Country be selected as the power of the Six Soldiers).


Thoughts?
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
While waiting for the calcs (If they are even going to be done), I thought of some material for the weakened versions of the Six Legendary Soldiers. Apollonir, the Pyrus Soldier, fought Neo Drago, who should be Country Level, and only won because he managed to break Spectra's control over Drago, and not because he was more powerful since Drago was kicking him around the whole time, indicating that he is weaker then Neo Drago, and so he is lower then Country Level.
Now, it would seem as though all of the other soldiers are equal to each other, and that would mean they are lower then Country level... So perhaps they are Large Island to Small Country? Depending on which is selected, that would mean Hammer Gorem, Angelo/Diablo Preyas, Storm Skyress and Blade Tigrerra would either be Small Country (Should Large Island be selected as the power of the Six Soldiers), or Small Country+ (Should Small Country be selected as the power of the Six Soldiers).


Thoughts?
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This is good, however i think we should peg it up a bit more at least. The reason i think this is because when Spectra was using Drago to fight Dan and Apolonir, Drago was being forced to absorb some of the enegy of the Perfect Core through Spectra's forbidden cards and since it was a temporary body, Drago was in unbelieveable amounts of pain each time he drawn on the core's power, even nearly died. Apolonir at the end of the battle absorbed all of the extra core's energy into himself in order to save Drago. And because of that, i think he should be at least somewhat higher than country lvl.
 
Oh, well if both Neo Drago and Apollonir were absorbing power during the fight, then that wouldn't really be good to use as his weaker power listing on his profile.

However, I guess we'll have to wait until Delta Drago's meteor's get calced. That way, we can scale the other Brawlers to him when they are in their second forms, and the Legendary Soldiers can be scaled below it, but only by a tiny amount.
 
GimmyJibbsJr said:
Oh, well if both Neo Drago and Apollonir were absorbing power during the fight, then that wouldn't really be good to use as his weaker power listing on his profile.
However, I guess we'll have to wait until Delta Drago's meteor's get calced. That way, we can scale the other Brawlers to him when they are in their second forms, and the Legendary Soldiers can be scaled below it, but only by a tiny amount.
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Hmm. Good points.
 
Wow guys. The Bakugan pages are finally getting some love. I'm glad this thread actually succeeded.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Wow guys. The Bakugan pages are finally getting some love. I'm glad this thread actually succeeded.
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Same with me. Incase you didnt see my earlier comment, Bakugan usually gets a lot of hate and downgrading, far more than what we're discussing here. You should head over to Narutoforums as an example. They hate Bakugan with a burning passion. They even say beyblade would easily beat it, no joke lol.
 
Yeah, apparently people haven't really been giving Bakugan a chance in Vs Debating? Eh, it's good to see this changing.

That being said, really curious to see how the meteor thing we turn out, should someone actually calc it
 
Beyblade? Really how strong is Beyblade? Like Planet Level at most? Galaxy Level?
 
I honestly have no idea how strong Beyblade really is, though I highly doubt that it could be any stronger then the top-tier Bakugan.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Beyblade? Really how strong is Beyblade? Like Planet Level at most? Galaxy Level?
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Galaxy level? Rings a bell but overall there is not one beyblade who is remotley near that

They are most likely only planet level and a bit higher at the most, possibly even Star Level (though very unlikely). It would be from beyblades like Twisted Tempo who can create the Spiral Force, The God of Destruction Diablo Nemesis who was going to destroy the entire world and is backed up by an extreme amount of material and feats and, IIRC, summoned a sun to the planet that was far away in outer space

However Twisted Tempo might be questionable on if it can become stronger due to its Special Move, Spiral Dimension where a pocket space is created through its abilities to rule over space and time and create a black hole but it depends on how you see this being done.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Beyblade? Really how strong is Beyblade? Like Planet Level at most? Galaxy Level?
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Theirs a calc that puts Beyblade at Solar System level somewhere outhere. Another for MFTL+
 
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