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This is the infamous High Godly Regeneration, based on the Infinite Regeneration skill, which has been on my mind for the longest time. It is clearly not right to give this skill High Godly Regeneration. I won't be replying to anyone who goes out of their way to bring up unrelated topics to this thread and argue about other types of characters and their regenerations. My only downgrade is related to this specific skill. If you have anything related to this alone, feel free to bring it up, and I’m okay with that. But other unrelated topics, I’m just going to ignore.
Current justification in the profile
Simple explanation for downgrade
Infinite Regeneration requires Magicules to regenerate the user’s body, and since it is a skill stored in the core (unless stated otherwise), this should rule out the possibility of the core being destroyed. Therefore, Raphael’s statement should be interpreted as Rimuru outlasting Meltslash due to sheer regeneration.Additionally, this is supported by the fact that Meltslash has limitations, such as not being able to erase beings like Veldora due to sheer size. The current standard states that a character needs to be completely erased to qualify for Godly Regeneration. Even if you argue that some important type 2 information was erased, it does not disprove the fact that Infinite Regeneration will not be erased and that the core should be somewhat fine to keep the Infinite Regeneration skill running. There is also the fact that Magicules are involved. Hence, it is not a complete erasure, which disqualifies it from High-Godly Regeneration.
Detailed Explanation can be found here if anyone not get what I'm proposing above.
Well, its regeneration level should be debated; I guess it could be low godly or mid godly, but I'll leave it for another time. But anyone who has Infinite Regeneration skills in their profile should be downgraded if this thread gets passed
@Astral_Trinity439 suggested Mid godly Regeneration for this here. I'm fine with it
Agree: @Planck69 (Admin) (Ageed with downgrade to MGR), @Dereck03 (Admin) (Agree With MGR),
Neutral:
Disagree:
Current justification in the profile
Regeneration (High Godly; Information; Via Infinite Regeneration, an intrinsic skill allowing one to regenerate endlessly as long as one has magicules left; Capable of regenerating from attacks like Melt-Slash, which work on the same principles as Distingration, erasing all Physical and Spiritual traces embodying one's existence, to the point that it leaves nothing behind, not even the Soul, reaching and destroying even the Information Particles in their Nucleic Heart, erasing one's core itself including the skills engraved in it as information, erased Gluttony; Works on Spirit Particles that ignore Space and Time, and can penetrate one's Core made of Information Particles; A Soul is Crystallized Energy defining one's Collective Consciousness, Thoughts, Ideas, Virtual Memory, covered Spiritual and Astral Body as well as their Skills on some occasions, whereas a Core defines their Fundamental Information (Type 2) Self in Reality, their Skills (Powers), that even Spiritual Lifeforms cannot regenerate from; An Ego is a set of Wavelengths defining a person's being, that they can take action with even if their Core has no energy, existing deeper than anything else, beyond their Soul, Information Self)
Simple explanation for downgrade
Infinite Regeneration requires Magicules to regenerate the user’s body, and since it is a skill stored in the core (unless stated otherwise), this should rule out the possibility of the core being destroyed. Therefore, Raphael’s statement should be interpreted as Rimuru outlasting Meltslash due to sheer regeneration.
Detailed Explanation can be found here if anyone not get what I'm proposing above.
The Core contains skills, so if Infinite Regeneration is active and can endlessly regenerate its user but needs magicules as an energy source, this just proves the Core is obviously not destroyed. If the Core were destroyed, there would be no skills, right? Anyone saying otherwise is just ignoring the clear evidence. Since Infinite Regeneration requires magicules, we can obviously conclude that the Core isn’t actually erased.
According to the new standards, (not really new I meant current. But it's new for people who are not upto date) characters need to be completely erased to qualify for Godly Regeneration, so any attempt to argue that Infinite Regeneration is High Godly is clearly misinformed as Core is not likely getting erased completely as I explained above. Everyone knows that complete erasure is required for Godly Regeneration.
There is also the fact that Melt Slash disintegration has limits, like not being able to completely erase beings like Veldora due to sheer size.
This obviously implies that Rimuru’s Regeneration skill could have just outlasted Melt Slash, which likely didn’t continue for a long period. It’s more rational to interpret this as Rimuru regenerating to the point where Melt Slash’s effect just couldn’t keep up. Without any specific scans to prove otherwise, there’s no reason to believe that Melt Slash would have completely erased Rimuru, especially if we can clearly see that magicules are required for regeneration. Magicules act as fuel, and if the Core stores the skills, then Infinite Regeneration skill being active clearly proves the Core isn’t destroyed.
There may be arguments that Melt Slash is a one-hit kill, but as I’ve pointed out, being an existence erasure doesn’t rule out the possibility that Rimuru’s Infinite Regeneration skill could outlast its effect by regenerating his physical body so much that Melt Slash eventually loses effect. This is the most logical interpretation, thanks to the explicit mention of magicules as a required fuel for that skill, and since skills are stored in the Core, obviously the character’s fundamentals aren’t getting erased.
The argument that the Gluttony skill was destroyed and recreated holds no weight because there are two key points to consider. First, a backup for Gluttony was already stored, according to the scans, which clearly debunks the idea that the skill was regenerated from scratch. Second, Rimuru/Raphael was still alive, so it’s just that regenerating an erased skill is not the same as regenerating oneself. Other characters in fiction do similar things all the time, where important parts of themselves or others are healed, without being able to regenerate from total erasure. The wiki’s Regeneration page even defines this as mere resurrection of the skill, so anyone arguing otherwise is just ignoring the evidence.
Meltslash erased Gluttony, but why wouldn’t it erase Rimuru in a single hit? Please don’t use arguments from ignorance—I’ve already explained this clearly. Gluttony didn’t use Infinite Regeneration to outlast Meltslash, but here Raphael suggests they could. So, obviously, Rimuru would survive Meltslash as long as he has enough Magicules to power Infinite Regeneration.
According to the new standards, (not really new I meant current. But it's new for people who are not upto date) characters need to be completely erased to qualify for Godly Regeneration, so any attempt to argue that Infinite Regeneration is High Godly is clearly misinformed as Core is not likely getting erased completely as I explained above. Everyone knows that complete erasure is required for Godly Regeneration.
Even Disintegration, the most powerful of holy magic, could only do a little bit of damage against Veldora's gigantic frame. The durability of these True Dragons was no joke—it's what made them True Dragons. (Volume 15, Chapter 2)
There may be arguments that Melt Slash is a one-hit kill, but as I’ve pointed out, being an existence erasure doesn’t rule out the possibility that Rimuru’s Infinite Regeneration skill could outlast its effect by regenerating his physical body so much that Melt Slash eventually loses effect. This is the most logical interpretation, thanks to the explicit mention of magicules as a required fuel for that skill, and since skills are stored in the Core, obviously the character’s fundamentals aren’t getting erased.
The argument that the Gluttony skill was destroyed and recreated holds no weight because there are two key points to consider. First, a backup for Gluttony was already stored, according to the scans, which clearly debunks the idea that the skill was regenerated from scratch. Second, Rimuru/Raphael was still alive, so it’s just that regenerating an erased skill is not the same as regenerating oneself. Other characters in fiction do similar things all the time, where important parts of themselves or others are healed, without being able to regenerate from total erasure. The wiki’s Regeneration page even defines this as mere resurrection of the skill, so anyone arguing otherwise is just ignoring the evidence.
Meltslash erased Gluttony, but why wouldn’t it erase Rimuru in a single hit? Please don’t use arguments from ignorance—I’ve already explained this clearly. Gluttony didn’t use Infinite Regeneration to outlast Meltslash, but here Raphael suggests they could. So, obviously, Rimuru would survive Meltslash as long as he has enough Magicules to power Infinite Regeneration.
Well, its regeneration level should be debated; I guess it could be low godly or mid godly, but I'll leave it for another time. But anyone who has Infinite Regeneration skills in their profile should be downgraded if this thread gets passed
@Astral_Trinity439 suggested Mid godly Regeneration for this here. I'm fine with it
Agree: @Planck69 (Admin) (Ageed with downgrade to MGR), @Dereck03 (Admin) (Agree With MGR),
Neutral:
Disagree:
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