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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 6

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The coat also came standard with Self-Repair, which went way beyond basic seam fixes. Enough magic force, and I could basically regenerate it from scratch. Keep it clean, too. Ultraspeed Regenerationn at work, I supposed.

[...]

Talk about an incredible healer. I mean, seriously, if we don't kill this guy in one hit, we're never getting outta this. Or maybe we'd have to render him into nothing but atoms to finish him. The one thing we knew for sure, though, was that my five strongest underlings could pool their abilities together and that still wasn't enough.

[...]

I doubted that my evolved Ultraspeed Regenerationn was any less incredible at healing than whatever the demon lord was sporting. Which meant that if we started consuming each other, I was bound to win in the end, right?
~ LN vol. 2​
Would this be Low-High, perhaps even Mid-High?


Also one thing from the new manga chapter bugs me: WN and manga translations say that Hinata's Sword damages the SOUL, but in the LN TL it's said that it is the SPIRITUAL BODY that the sword damages, instead. Those two terms both exist in the story but they have very different meanings in terms of Hinata's PaA page. Which is correct?

Probably the LN, I'd say, because it actually addresses the differences between souls and spiritual bodies:

As the Great Sage explained, there were three types of topological forms in the world: astral bodies, the weakest form that surrounds the soul; spiritual bodies, which can form a base upon which to build one's internal force; and material bodies, those directly connected with this world. The human body is the combination of all three forms.
~ LN vol. 4​
 
GLHF22 said:
Its weird that English is late for update huh? I've read it in my language about 2 weeks ago
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Some issues with the translator. Due to competition, long time translator Shurim bowed out since an anon was releasing them faster with decent quality. After that, anon went AWOL.

Question, why the drop in regen ability?
 
Because the reason Rimuru had High-Mid was due to the line from the WN where Rimuru during his battle with Hinata "physically seperated a part of his body and threw it far away" and later regenerated from that.

Though what I discovered (see above) might rise the Regen to Low-High or even Mid-High instead. I think it'd need a CRT though.

Another thing that might need a CRT, but would probably be a reasonable assumption, is that every character from Tempest carries 1-3 Full Potions with them, so they should have limited uses of Low-Mid Regen if they don't already have Regen superior to that.
 
I wonder if Rimuru would still become a True Dragon because the story look like it will a different route for the current arc, at this point.
 
PairusDragonoid said:
Wenti the Dragon? in the LN change or i miss something?
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The link to his Twitter has a picture that resembles a sort of proto version of that girl and when you translate it the name Wenty turns up. Not sure IF her, but it's a possibility.
 
Who is Wenti?

Nevermind, I checked. I don't think the female form was necessary, to be honest
 
Elizhaa said:
Who is Wenti?
Nevermind, I checked. I don't think the female form was necessary, to be honest
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Hey, all the other dragons got one. Why not the undead one too?
 
Qliphoth Bacikal said:
Finally moving my butt to resume the WN....at the beginning of chp 27 no less! Still slow AF, mothatrucka's~.

So like did Rimuru just met the ogres that would eventually be Benimaru (Web Novel), Shuna, Shion (Web Novel), Souei (Web Novel), Hakurou (Web Novel), and Kurobe? And not fight them first?
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Indeed, they don't fight in the WN. The reason is that the "Clowns" from the "Moderate Troupe" (or whichever other translation is used), specifically Footman, don't appear until near the end of the series in the WN version and the Orcs attacked the Ogre village by themselves (or assisted by Gelmud himself, don't remember exactly). So they are not suspicious about a Majin with a white mask. Also they run into Rimuru at the cave entrance directly instead of running into Rigur's patrol.
 
I just noticed that Rimuru's Control Particles (and Rimuru's range in itself) deserves a range upgrade. When he used his Dark Thunder against the Ogres as a demonstration of power, he summoned a Black Lightning Bold from the sky, so that means his Extra Skill is able to reach a range equivalent from Earth surface to where you reach the clouds at least. Question is which type of clouds would be valid? The lowest non-rain altitude (since they should be at a "normal" altitude since they were not actual rain/thunderstorm clouds), or the "average" cloud altitude?

Obviously Ranga's Control Wind would scale to that, not sure about Control Water or Control Fire.
 
Doesn't that include the range for Control Particles though? Since it scales to Ranga who also formed tornadoes from the sky DOWNWARDS, which is clearly not a part of the Black Lightning he inherited, but rather from his Control Wind.
 
Just kilometers then.

The average cloud to ground distance is like 2 or 3 km if i remember right, so his range should just be kilometers.
 
Ok. It's fine to add that in without a CRT?

Also, does Magic Sense scale with that? Since it'd be weird to be able to control something without being able to perceive it. When Rimuru just learned it before even being named by Veldora it was at the range of "hundreds of meters" already, but it's likely that its range evolved and scaled alongside Rimuru.
 
It's minor so i think it's cool.

I guess, couldn't he already perceive black lightning crashing down faster than light? Don't see why dark thunder and control particles would be any different.
 
Ok. Then it's fine to add I guess. Can Ranga also go to complete "kilometers" range, or are Control Wind and Black Lightning (=Death Storm) not a big enough part of his skillset?
 
OK then. I'll make a CRT later for the Regen I mentioned a few posts ago and might perhaps include the issue with Hinata's sword as well, while I am at it, though, since I think that these do require a proper CRT.
 
WN and manga say it damages the soul, while LN says it damages the Spiritual Body instead. It's likely that the LN is more accurate since it had an explanation about what the differences between an Astral Body (which surrounds the soul) and a Spiritual Body (which is sort of the foundation of the body's magicules) are.

It's in the same post about the regen.
 
Doomrider7 said:
Elizhaa said:
Who is Wenti?
Nevermind, I checked. I don't think the female form was necessary, to be honest
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Hey, all the other dragons got one. Why not the undead one too?
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hoh Wenty? IIRC she is one of single number in Empire, she fought chloe but, yeah you know the result, but that happen in vol 13, so i dont know who is this
 
Just saying but the Web Novel name for the Orc Disaster being "Gelmudo" is completely false. It should be Gerudo or Geld (both are pronounced the same way in Japanese, so it's just a different transliteration choice), but Gelmyudo or Gelmudo refer to Gelmud instead.

I'd move the page myself, but I don't know where all the links to the profile of the Orc Disaster can be found so I'd rather ask first before doing that (if the protection level of the pages even allow to do so in the first place), since if we go with Geld for both versions, then both versions need to have (Web Novel) and (Light Novel) attached to them like all other versions.
 
Also, for 6-A key just in case, Leon's feat does not exist in the LN, then I think they scaled via Carrera's. I think the map is from the LN so this might be accurate.

From Discussion 4:

GLHF22 said:
"After the super-compression space reaches the critical point, all energy is concentrated to one point. When this process was reversed, small supernovas appeared on the ground. The dark pillar that connects heaven and earth - just like the lid of Hell, the big bang smashes sand and dust into the stratosphere. This level is no longer the magic that can be used on the planet. If there is no pre-defined range of effects, probably the entire forest will be turned into scorched earth."
-Gravity Collapse
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World Map
Seems like a 6-A supporting feat because destroying the entire forest is around the size of a continent like El Dorado, Leon's country and Carrera, who did, was already 6-A.

Also, I am pretty sure the lowest island is Leon's continent since it has many of the geographical features that his country was described to contain.

Edit: I originally wrote the feat off since Carrera was Tier 7 at the time and I forgot the Jura Forest's size is comparable to the continent-size of "Continent of Eternal Ice
 
@Neo I will rename it to Orc Disaster Gerudo then.

@Elizhaa Someone already calced Jura forest size a long time ago based on how long it took to get there, and it's continental size.

Regardless we don't know the scaling between primordial and awakened demon lords and Carrera isn't showing up for a while.

What i am more curious about is if the large star level feats will happen in the ln. We already know 6-A feats exist.
 
I see thanks for the info, Celestial Pegasusƒæì Can you post the link to the Jura Forest Calculation because I think it would be useful to have it for future reference in the discussion thread, Celestial Pegasus?

True, the scaling is a different anime in the LN as especially since Gii is both a primordial and awakened demon lord, so I will wait until we have more info.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
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Neat and thanks agaiƒæì! just a high-ball, 2550 miles = 4103.827 km

So, km^2 is 16841396.0459, this is larger than Artantica- 14.5 millio square km.

Low-ball is likely bigger than Oceania continent size at 8.526 million km┬▓.
 
Please reply to the two CRTs I made:

1. Regarding Hinata's Sword (LN) and whether it attacks the Soul or the Spiritual Body, as well as an Intangability trait when that sort of attack is used (can be switched on and off).

2. Regarding an upgrade to the Regenerationn of Rimuru, Orc Disaster Geld and Charybdis (all LN).

I ultimately decided to make them seperate because they really have nothing to do with each other, so pushing both into one would just make it difficult to follow any potential conversation without mixing it into the other, is what I thought.
 
Now that I think about it, it might actually just be the effect of Magic Sense. We never really got an indication about how fast this sort of magical perception can transfer information. Most relevant characters have that Extra Skill though, escpacially on the named monster side. And Rimuru additionally supplements it with Sense Heat Source, Sense Soundwave and Keen Smell, as well as his Thought Acceleration aspect of Great Sage so his perception should be even greater.

I mean Magic Sense is technically like echo-location, but I don't think we can equate something "magical" like that with the laws of physics. For example maintaining a black/dark flame within an area barrier by itself doesn't cost any magical energy to maintain once the heat within reached the maximum level. Rimuru even remarks how that probably contradicts the laws of thermo dynamics or something.
 
Also, I didn't see Shuna's profile. She would be 7-C as well since she is a ramk in WN Chapter 74. http://*************/tensei-shitara-slime-datta-ken-wn/chapter-74-veldora.html

Next is Shuna

Name: Shuna

Race: Fair Oni

Blessing: Tempest Crest

Title: Onihime

Rank: A rank [EP: 12.000]

Magic:ÒÇêNature ArchiveÒÇëÒÇêElement ArchiveÒÇëÒÇêCurse ArchiveÒÇë

Skills: Unique skill『Analyst』Thought Acceleration, Appraisal, Incantation Voided

. Unique skill『Creator』Material Conversion, Fusion, Separation

. Extra skill『Multiple Barrier』『Spatial Travel』

. Daily skill『Magic Perception』『Majesty』

Resistances: Status Change Nullification, Spirit Attack Resistance

Shuna also exceeds A rank.

Though she's not specialized for combat.
 
I want to remind everyone to please participate in the two CRTs I have linked above.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2885487#114

Nothing is worse than a CRT that just dies by inactivity.


In regards to Shuna, I think she was change a bit in the LN. From what I hear she has her own battle scene in LN vol. 6.

Also in LN, in regards to before Harvest Festival, she was A-rank right after naming, but the magicule levels go down after some time due to some of it being converted into Skills. So she fell from A-rank to B-Plus (or A-Minus?), I think, since right after naming it was said every Kijin reached A-rank, but later Rimuru said that Shuna is only "almost A-rank".
 
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