Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken General Regenerationn Upgrade

This revision thread concerns the character profiles of Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel), Orc Disaster Geld and Charybdis (Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken) from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ke.

The Regenerationn for the above characters might be set too low. There are passages that indicate a higher tier of Regenerationn.



Here we see a demonstration how even applying it to clothes already regenerates it "from scratch", i.e. when it's as good as gone. That implies somewhere between High-Mid to Low-High by itself already. But to get to the meat of the issue, which is evaluating the Regenerationn of an actual character, in this case Orc Disaster Geld:



The "render him into nothing but atoms to finish him" part might sound like speculation, but keep the context of the situation in mind: Rimuru is expecting the worst-case scenarios in regards to Geld. For example he anticipated that Great Sage's plan with Rimuru's auto-battle mode to get Geld into a situation where she can use Flare Circle on him would fail due to Geld having suddenly gained Fire Attack Resistance. And despite having this sort of pessimistic view in regards to worst-case scenarios at that time, he mentioned/thought this:



Despite his pessimistic views about his enemy, Rimuru still was sure that he could at the very least match his enemy's Regenerationn. What was the worst-case scenario that Rimuru considered in regards to Geld's Regenerationn? It was having to "render him into nothing but atoms to finish him", so if Rimuru says he can match Geld and escpacially with the mindset he had shown moments earlier, there is no doubt that Rimuru thinks that he can match that very worst-case scenario with his own Regenerationn.

With that said, "Regenerationn after atomization" is High, but the Regenerationn in question is supposed to be below that, which would be "Regenerationn after molecularization" which is also High, but the lowest sub-tier of that tier.

Of course that power is not neccessarily allmighty. The regenerative abilities seem to have some restrictions. For example Charybdis, for some reason (likely its sheer size) has a considerably slower Regenerationn than Rimuru despite having the same "Ultraspeed Regenerationn" Extra Skill needing 3 minutes to regenerate just its scales as opposed to Rimuru who takes just a moment, or going by the anime 2-3 seconds, to regenerate an arm, perhaps because Predator boosts it or because Rimuru's base body has a homogen cell structure (mimiced parts aside). Another restriction to the regenerative powers is that running out of magicules means the end of the line. That was also how Rimuru's forces tried to beat Charybdis despite its Regenerationn, i.e. wearing it out.

So based on that, I propose upgrading the Regenerationn A&P of Rimuru, Orc Disaster Geld and Charybdis (obviously LN versions) to High (up until molecularization) as well as Rimuru's Regenerationn-Negation to High (up until molecularization).

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Just a statement, if Regenerationn is based on magic; it is usually Healing in this case.

I do think Regenerationn is alright to me, so if accepted this text should be added in their weakness: If he or she runs out of magicules he will no longer be able to regenerate, assuming there is more proof for this statement.

I do believe this Shion's Regenerationn for LN would need to added as well when her profile is made.

The thing with Geld is that he uses both. The Regenerationn is a Skill called "Self-Regenerationn", the same Skill Rimuru had as a Slime-species Skill before it got upgraded to Extra Skill Ultraspeed Regenerationn. The reason Geld's Regenerationn is equal to Rimuru who got a higher version of it, is because Geld supplements it with the Healing Magic he got from Geld (both the Skill and the Magic are listed in Geld's profile at the end of LN vol. 2), but it seems Geld was able to to integrate the two of them without too many issues. The ability to survive beheading at least has to come from his Self-Regenerationn Skill though, since Gelmud who was beheaded did immdietly die from being beheaded, which makes sense, since it's magic, so being able to be conscious and not bleeding out probably comes from either having a Regenerationn Skill, or being a more magic-oriented and less flesh-oriented being.

Note how in the anime none of the monsters within Veldora's cave (i.e. the ones born in high magic-density) ever seem to bleed. They get water-cut into pieces and remain as bloodless flesh. On the other hand the all monsters and even the Black Snake in the first anime OP, who are located outside the cave, DO bleed. Perhaps the more magicule a monster has within its foundation the closer it is to becoming a spiritual being itself and the less biological weaknesses they have. But that was just a rant on the side, back to business:

The "weakness" of running out of magicules does have loopholes though. Both Rimuru and Geld have methods to recycle magic power. Geld can do so by eating corpses for example, which enabled him to keep regenerating himself even from a grave injury (escpacially if you take the manga version instead of the anime version), just from eating a single Orc, while Rimuru can probably do similar things, considering him eating corpses (or living things) enables him to gain their magicules more effiently (can extract magicules from corpses with the "seperate" function of "Deviant") and whatever Geld brings to the table in terms of magicule recycling, Rimuru likely got when Great Sage fused Ravenous into Predator to create Glutton. Actually, Rimuru can probably even disassemble the magic power from spells fired at him and turn it into his own reserves, much less so from physical projectiles though, unless they are magic enchanted. There's also Rimuru's "Veldora Battery" that emitts energy when at full capacity. Either way, the only one for whom this is really much of an issue in a large-scale battle would probably be Charybdis who can only eat the atmospheric magicules which probably becomes harder due to its Magic Interference though.

What are you refering to in regards to Shion? Do you mean her gaining Rimuru's current Ultraspeed Regenerationn Extra Skill Post-Harvest Festival? If so then yes, I just checked that in her RAW vol. 5 status screen and yes she does have it, though it's listed as a "race skill", in her case. And I also checked twice to make sure it's Ultraspeed Regenerationn (and not Self-Regenerationn or Endless Regenerationn) she gets and yes, that's the case. That alone should probably already make her Regen comparable to Geld by itself, though her Spiritual Form, if that still exists in the same form in the LN version, might rise it to Low-Godly too, but we'll have to see.

So if the upgrade gets confirmed, Shion would probably scale to at least that and gain at least High Regen in her second key.

agree

I agree.

This is fine.

Seems everyone agrees so far. Is this enough to apply the update?

Rimuru: Regen (High-Mid) -> Regen (High, molecular, operates on Magic Power reserves)

Orc Disaster Geld: Regen (Mid) -> Regen (High, molecular, works on Magic Power reserves, slower than Rimuru, but comparable to Rimuru when supplemented with Healing Magic)

Charybdis: Regen (High-Mid) -> Regen (High, molecular, works on Magic Power reserves)

I think the LN actually mentioned something about actual body parts having high energy efficiency for fueling the Regenerationn (at least in Geld's case), but I am not sure where and how to mention that.

Go ahead.

And I forgot to mention: Rimuru's Regen-Negation gets upgraded to "High, molecular" as well.