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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

I didn't deny it, I just said that they meet the requirements to be universal+, an example is the weakest of the octagram that still scale to Testarossa that could hold Velgrind with 20% power, in addition to being stronger than Kumara wue can also destroy planets, so Universal+, I think this is the correct classification
when does Kumara have this feat? On WN? Because in LN there was none of from that.
 
when does Kumara have this feat? On WN? Because in LN there was none of from that.
in volume 16 when Rimuru sees the ap of each of his subordinates, Kumara's ability is gravity, and it was stated by Rimuru or Ciel I don't remember exactly that he had enough strength to move planets
 
Do you folks have any idea how large the gap is between planet level, star level, and universe level?

Just because a True Dragon is stated to be capable of destroying a planet with a release of their power, doesn't mean they are only limited to planet level.
And a True Dragon being capable of destroying a star is in no way an indicator that they can destroy a universe just by going to a different one.

There is, quite literally, zero evidence of Low 2-C True Dragons in the LN aside from a single statement where you'll have to deliberately choose to interpret the word "world" as a universe and not planet.

Nothing supports this "planet and star level characters are universal in other worlds" either. You'll have to apply this to other tiers of characters, like True Demon Lords being 3-B or whatever. But we literally see a TDL level character in Kondou's world do at most a Continent Level feat, same as any other average TDL level character.

We'll talk about Universal ratings if there are actually undeniable and conclusive Universal feats and/or statements being shown aside from Veldanava whom nobody scales to.
 
Do you folks have any idea how large the gap is between planet level, star level, and universe level?

Just because a True Dragon is stated to be capable of destroying a planet with a release of their power, doesn't mean they are only limited to planet level.
And a True Dragon being capable of destroying a star is in no way an indicator that they can destroy a universe just by going to a different one.

There is, quite literally, zero evidence of Low 2-C True Dragons in the LN aside from a single statement where you'll have to deliberately choose to interpret the word "world" as a universe and not planet.

Nothing supports this "planet and star level characters are universal in other worlds" either. You'll have to apply this to other tiers of characters, like True Demon Lords being 3-B or whatever. But we literally see a TDL level character in Kondou's world do at most a Continent Level feat, same as any other average TDL level character.

We'll talk about Universal ratings if there are actually undeniable and conclusive Universal feats and/or statements being shown aside from Veldanava whom nobody scales to.

we are starting from the assumption that worlds are universes as they have their own laws and spacetime, in addition to the fact that true dragons have been declared to be able to destroy some or even several of these worlds, and how magic can influence the laws of the worlds and velgrind is more stronger than beings that have been declared to be able to destroy planets of the cardinal world which is the world with the most magic in the semi material realm, we are only basing ourselves based on these statements, we are not creating crts or anything like that so I don't see a problem
 
in volume 16 when Rimuru sees the ap of each of his subordinates, Kumara's ability is gravity, and it was stated by Rimuru or Ciel I don't remember exactly that he had enough strength to move planets

in fact, I checked here, when I had first read it, I had interpreted it as being able to change the gravity of the entire planet, rather than being able to move them.

It took a while, but it seemed to have worked.
Kumara acquired the Ultimate Gift ‘Beast King Bahamut,’ which included the following six powers: ‘Thought Acceleration,’ ‘Universal Perception,’ ‘Demon Lord Haki,’ ‘Gravity Domination,’ ‘Spatial Domination,’ and ‘Multilayer Barrier.’
She could even interfere with planets, seemingly able to manipulate the gravity of a wide area.
 
in fact, I checked here, when I had first read it, I had interpreted it as being able to change the gravity of the entire planet, rather than being able to move them.
if the entire planet's gravity changes, won't it move out of its original orbit? whether or not she would make the planets move
 
when Rimuru(LN) gets conceptual manipulation anyway? I know he can manipulate information particles, which are what make up everything in Tensura, including concepts, but I don't know when he gets it.
 
To be completely honest Demon lords apart from Guy ,Milim doesn't qualify for low 2-C or higher .Most of the feats awakened demon lords showed are only continental .The best I can scale them is High 4-C via chaining with Carrera .
 
To be completely honest Demon lords apart from Guy ,Milim doesn't qualify for low 2-C or higher .Most of the feats awakened demon lords showed are only continental .The best I can scale them is High 4-C via chaining with Carrera .
the problem is that there are strong and weak worlds, so even if you are planetary in a strong world you can be universal or more in a weak world, and the conclusion so far is that a planetary character from the cardinal world is probably universal to multiversal in a lesser world evolved
 
when Rimuru(LN) gets conceptual manipulation anyway? I know he can manipulate information particles, which are what make up everything in Tensura, including concepts, but I don't know when he gets it.
probably when he becomes a digital being, I don't remember him having done anything before that
 
could someone explain to me?

a 4d being cannot interact with a 5d or higher being, but can that being interact with the 4d being if it wants to?

I was wondering what it would be like if Slime scaled to Low 1-C or higher
 
when each took an empire opponent to duel, Testarossa dueled alone against velgrind

Checked it, Testarossa can only clash/hold with Velgyrnd because of her Ultimate Skill, its a hax battle so her ap/durability wont scale. also what Metalballrun said

But we literally see a TDL level character in Kondou's world do at most a Continent Level feat, same as any other average TDL level character.

Pulcinella reached the level of awakened demon lord yet the highest tier he can get is merely multi-continental, Pulcinella is also far stronger than Masahiko who is comparable to True Demon Lord in the Cardinal World
 
Carerra who have the most destructive attack than every other True Demon Level can only do at most Planetary, until we got more feat, they cap at planetary at best
 
could someone explain to me?

a 4d being cannot interact with a 5d or higher being, but can that being interact with the 4d being if it wants to?

I was wondering what it would be like if Slime scaled to Low 1-C or higher
a being who lives in a realm above a 4 dimensional being, which normally the 4 dimension is past and future, but there are verses that separate spatial dimensions and temporal dimensions, in slime the high chance of being a higher dimension, it is literally described a space between spaces, this is the biggest chance, and also the celestial palace which is outside the worlds and can only be accessed with a special key, these are the possible higher dimensions in slime, but there is nothing officially translated and it wasn't much explained in the work, it's just a hypothesis
 
Cardinal world, and sbould be the same in the weak world
cardinal world is the world with the most magic from what i understand, it is not a weak world, so much so that velgrind that scales to planetary characters in cardinal world, is said to be able to destroy entire worlds with less magic
 
cardinal world is the world with the most magic from what i understand, it is not a weak world, so much so that velgrind that scales to planetary characters in cardinal world, is said to be able to destroy entire worlds with less magic

1. Velgyrnd upscales massively from said planetary character, so much that those character isnt even comparable to her

2. less magic? She easily can use gravity collapse using only 0.001% of her magicule and accidentally wiped out 1/3 of a continent, but she needs full power for the 2C feat
 
1. Velgyrnd upscales massively from said planetary character, so much that those character isnt even comparable to her

2. less magic? She easily can use gravity collapse using only 0.001% of her magicule and accidentally wiped out 1/3 of a continent, but she needs full power for the 2C feat
I don't think any characters can destroy the cardinal world for now, until Ivaraj who is much stronger than Velgrind was said to be able to destroy the stars
 
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the problem is that there are strong and weak worlds, so even if you are planetary in a strong world you can be universal or more in a weak world, and the conclusion so far is that a planetary character from the cardinal world is probably universal to multiversal in a lesser world evolved
Will wait for Volume -20 or further .Weak and strong worlds ......The problem is how strong are "Strong worlds" compared to "Weak worlds " ? it needs to be explained .Is it a higher dimension? Or may be a world that is harder to destroy ?(The difference needs to be stated clearly to calculate their AP)

I won't use "weak worlds" or "Strong worlds" logic until we get a enough information about how much does the destruction of a continent in "strong worlds "scales in Lower ones . let's be patient and wait for future volumes
 
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this movie will only serve to delve into the history of the ogres with Benimaru being the main one, I think the other servants will not be as prominent as the kijins, except for Diablo because he is nosy, so much so that he is even on the cover of the movie lol
 
Does he have any notable feats in the game? I wanted to play but it has not been translated into my country's language
only the possibility that the tense worlds are not universes but multiverses, because in the game it says that there are infinite possibilities or timelines with each one being a different universe, and as there are different space-times, there can be several multiverses
 
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