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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Me too, the one I have the most confidence in is the promised land, which with the right explanations could end up being 1-A low. Though it's a distant dream Slime to climb that high
I wouldn't say that far, since it's enough to say that there are worlds with infinite or countless directions, to prove that digital beings are beyond dimensions or to prove that the complex number of spatial dimensions really are increasing and not just several 3d spaces, since the slime dimensions obey the trancendencia pattern
 
for me you are expecting a lot from the promised land, as you said before, the promised land will not be 1-A low, because the beings there are able to interact with the cardinal world
the beings of the promised land are made of information just like the digital beings, so the promised land will probably have the same tier as the digital beings, so far the most concrete of being trancendencia is the celestial palace of Veldanava wue is outside the worlds where only can be accessed with a key that only Michael has if I'm not mistaken, or the world where ghosts, Cryptds and Insectars live, as this world is said to be at the top of the spiritual realm, which indicates that there is a hierarchy, and as all spirit worlds have unlimited magic, they have a chance to transcend each other
 
the beings of the promised land are made of information just like the digital beings, so the promised land will probably have the same tier as the digital beings, so far the most concrete of being trancendencia is the celestial palace of Veldanava wue is outside the worlds where only can be accessed with a key that only Michael has if I'm not mistaken, or the world where ghosts, Cryptds and Insectars live, as this world is said to be at the top of the spiritual realm, which indicates that there is a hierarchy, and as all spirit worlds have unlimited magic, they have a chance to transcend each other
everything in Tensura is made of information, there is nothing that doesn't have information particles, so I don't think this is valid
 
everything in Tensura is made of information, there is nothing that doesn't have information particles, so I don't think this is valid
I didn't deny that, I'm just saying that the beings of the promised land will probably have the same tier as the digital beings, and that the world where fedway, zelanus etc live is a world that is at the top of the spiritual realm, all the spirit worlds they have infinite magic but they are not digital beings, which means they can see a transcendental hierarchy, I only said that hypothesis and nothing more
 
I didn't deny that, I'm just saying that the beings of the promised land will probably have the same tier as the digital beings, and that the world where fedway, zelanus etc live is a world that is at the top of the spiritual realm, all the spirit worlds they have infinite magic but they are not digital beings, which means they can see a transcendental hierarchy, I only said that hypothesis and nothing more
I see, sorry if I sounded rude.
 
everything in Tensura is made of information, there is nothing that doesn't have information particles, so I don't think this is valid
little is known about information particles but despite being in everything, I think it doesn't work the same way for everything, because if everything is made of information particles, digital beings are irrelevant existences, because everything and everyone is made of it, so everyone should be able to move in the stationary world or have immeasurable speed attacks as skills are also made of the same particles, i think their functioning and their existence are separated by types of layers, where for the "normal" layer this is for worlds and normal beings it acts one way, and to "higher" worlds and beings it acts another, as if they were used and molded or modified as raw material to create "normal" things, and were in their pure or another way for "higher " things. And by that logic, even if everything, including dimensions, is made of it, those cited as made of information particles must be in their pure state, thus being superior things. Well, at least that's how I think, I'm probably wrong but it's worth theorizing since it wasn't fully explained, what do you think?
 
little is known about information particles but despite being in everything, I think it doesn't work the same way for everything, because if everything is made of information particles, digital beings are irrelevant existences, because everything and everyone is made of it, so everyone should be able to move in the stationary world or have immeasurable speed attacks as skills are also made of the same particles, i think their functioning and their existence are separated by types of layers, where for the "normal" layer this is for worlds and normal beings it acts one way, and to "higher" worlds and beings it acts another, as if they were used and molded or modified as raw material to create "normal" things, and were in their pure or another way for "higher " things. And by that logic, even if everything, including dimensions, is made of it, those cited as made of information particles must be in their pure state, thus being superior things. Well, at least that's how I think, I'm probably wrong but it's worth theorizing since it wasn't fully explained, what do you think?
everything is made up of information, including concepts such as time, space, soul etc, you just need to explain the real extent of it, since when you become a digital being you basically become a god
 
everything is made up of information, including concepts such as time, space, soul etc, you just need to explain the real extent of it, since when you become a digital being you basically become a god
yes, digital beings are those that change their existence to become information particles, an existence that technically should already be made of it, information particles should probably have 2 shapes or more, acting one way for "normal" things and another form for "higher " things, so the digital beings must be the ones that have access to the higher form of the particle or something. How it is or if it is separate, this is Fuse who has to explain, but if I have to guess it is probably something related to the very existence of something or someone
 
guy looking at fuse said again i think the light novel will not end in 3 volumes
I think to explain everything that has been and will likely be presented plausibly as the origin of everything, cosmology, hierarchy, Veldanava, digital beings, information particles and post-history should have 25 volumes, for me the more fuse I write the better.
 
I think to explain everything that has been and will likely be presented plausibly as the origin of everything, cosmology, hierarchy, Veldanava, digital beings, information particles and post-history should have 25 volumes, for me the more fuse I write the better.
yeah fuse definitely need too explain alll those things
 
I hate it when fuse doesn't explain something properly .For example :"Cardinal World" .What is it ?Universe or just a planet ?In Volume 18 ,Chapter :4 .Mai desplayed the entire map of cardinal world .The picture that was displayed was just a planet .So does that mean the lower worlds that were mentioned in Volume-17 are just Planets ?But judging by how it was described I feel like they're universes .

Another thing is he should stop using the word "world" without proper context and use specific term like Planet or Universe .These things are really confusing
 
World is interchangeable for planets and universes.

Foundation World = Both planet and universe

Worlds created by Veldanava = universes

Worlds destroyed by True Dragons = planets

Worlds destroyed by Phantoms throughout millenia = universes
 
Have any of the universes been destroyed?
The actual timeline or space-time? Probably not.

Phantoms essentially life-wipe entire universes over the course of thousands to tens of thousands of years per universe. Their goal isn't really to destroy the universe itself but Veldanava's creations, and Veldanava's prized creations are the mortals/sentient beings.
 
World is interchangeable for planets and universes.

Foundation World = Both planet and universe

Worlds created by Veldanava = universes

Worlds destroyed by True Dragons = planets

Worlds destroyed by Phantoms throughout millenia = universes
I think they are universes, because something like all the power of a real dragon that must be at the level of a star can only destroy a planet is kind of contradictory, in fact this has been discussed for some time and most seem to agree that it is about universes based on what Velgrynd says, updating true dragons and beings as strong as them to 2-C, but one way or another we'll have to wait for the translation to know if world is planet or universe
 
World is interchangeable for planets and universes.

Foundation World = Both planet and universe

Worlds created by Veldanava = universes

Worlds destroyed by True Dragons = planets

Worlds destroyed by Phantoms throughout millenia = universes
But don't you think the case of TDs would be universes? I mean, a new TDL like Carrera achieved the ability to destroy a planet in the cardinal world, even though in another dimension, so I think it wouldn't be difficult for a TD to destroy weak universes. But I understand that maybe you're just saying it safely.
 
I think they are universes, because something like all the power of a real dragon that must be at the level of a star can only destroy a planet is kind of contradictory, in fact this has been discussed for some time and most seem to agree that it is about universes based on what Velgrynd says, updating true dragons and beings as strong as them to 2-C, but one way or another we'll have to wait for the translation to know if world is planet or universe
I think this way.
 
But don't you think the case of TDs would be universes? I mean, a new TDL like Carrera achieved the ability to destroy a planet in the cardinal world, even though in another dimension, so I think it wouldn't be difficult for a TD to destroy weak universes. But I understand that maybe you're just saying it safely.
any planetary being in the cardinal world is universal to multiversal in lower worlds
 
nah, True Dragon can only destroy several world in Full Power, currently the only planetary character is True Demon Lord level who are far weaker than any TD
all worlds have laws of their own, and the power to influence these laws is magic, the more magic you have the more destruction you can cause, the cardinal world is the semi material world with the most spells, so any being with enough magic to destroy planets can destroy universes with lesser laws or less magic as you prefer
 
all worlds have laws of their own, and the power to influence these laws is magic, the more magic you have the more destruction you can cause, the cardinal world is the semi material world with the most spells

yes, and the requirement of those amount of energy needs to be comparable to True Dragon, while those planetary level character are not
 
yes, and the requirement of those amount of energy needs to be comparable to True Dragon, while those planetary level character are not

True demon lords with unique abilities or beings comparable to them can also do it, an example is Kumara who can move planets only with her gravity manipulation
 
to put it simply, even though the weak worlds(universes) are very, very weak, but True Dragon still needs their Full Power to destroy it, and they are far above most of the True Demon Lord
 
to put it simply, even though the weak worlds(universes) are very, very weak, but True Dragon still needs their Full Power to destroy it, and they are far above most of the True Demon Lord
Velgrind said that with full power it can destroy weak worlds, that is, it can be several at once
 
yes several, still needs to be comparable to TD to atleast destroy one universe
if being comparable is being able to deal with them taking it easy i agree, true demon lords should be low2c and true dragons should be 2c, still in the same tier but weaker, i think this is the correct classification
 
if being comparable is being able to deal with them taking it easy i agree, true demon lords should be low2c and true dragons should be 2c, still in the same tier but weaker, i think this is the correct classification

don't remember when a True Demon Lord(except for Rimuru) being comparable to TD
 
Those 4 are comparable if not higher than True Dragon true, so high that actually no other True Demon Lord scales from them. They arent in True Demon Lord level, they beyond it, only their race is TDL



When he still a TDL his aura is on the same level as True Dragon
they are still a demon lord, for me there are 3 god tiers so far, the true demon lord level that is universal+, the true dragon that is multiversal, and the digital beings that have an unknown tier so far
 
they are still a demon lord

you do realise demon lord as in the octagram doesnt refer to their power level? Guy, and Milim are exceptional being even amongst the True Demon Lord, even stated to be the strongest demon lord, no TDL level character truly scales to them. and i just remembered that Ramiris and Dagruel arent awakened demon lord
 
you do realise demon lord as in the octagram doesnt refer to their power level? Guy, and Milim are exceptional being even amongst the True Demon Lord, even stated to be the strongest demon lord, no TDL level character truly scales to them. and i just remembered that Ramiris and Dagruel arent awakened demon lord
I didn't deny it, I just said that they meet the requirements to be universal+, an example is the weakest of the octagram that still scale to Testarossa that could hold Velgrind with 20% power, in addition to being stronger than Kumara wue can also destroy planets, so Universal+, I think this is the correct classification
 
Testarossa that could hold Velgrind with 20% power

i kinda forgot when this happened, is it when the 3 primordial fought Velgyrnd to stall time or when all of Rimuru subordinate confront parrarel existence Velgyrnd after Rimuru won against Velgyrnd?
 
i kinda forgot when this happened, is it when the 3 primordial fought Velgyrnd to stall time or when all of Rimuru subordinate confront parrarel existence Velgyrnd after Rimuru won against Velgyrnd?
when each took an empire opponent to duel, Testarossa dueled alone against velgrind
 
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