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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Transcending spacetime kind of statements are normally rejected without feats .(For example Velgrynds attack )

To become 5-D you need to :
1.View 4-D world merely as fiction
2.Exist in a realm higher than Spacetime continuum (Not outside spacetime )
3.Come from a 5-D world etc
4.Surviving the complete destruction of an spacetime continuum isn't 5-D
 
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Question, Im new to this wiki and scaling as a whole, I've been following the thread for awhile and as i re-read the LN i wondered would this scan do anything for the verse?
 
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Question, Im new to this wiki and scaling as a whole, I've been following the thread for awhile and as i re-read the LN i wondered would this scan do anything for the verse?

if it is related to the worlds described, it is a lie, in the translations there are only transcendent worlds, if it is about the forms of spiritual life, it is a described means to say that the level of power has increased a lot, it is normal for authors to cite this but there is no tier , if I'm not mistaken, it's in Yuuki's fight against Guy
 
So what does it take to qualify?
be described as a world independent of the lower one where there is an infinity of size separating them, if a higher level space-time that encompasses the lower one is even better, and in the slime there are worlds with different space-time, laws and causality, and transcendent worlds and one of those worlds is beyond past, present and future temporal directions which equates to 4d making the 5d world
 
the best example of this is in the tower of gan, where there are infinite universes of infinite size, and even these universes having infinite size, they are nothing but atoms in relation to a superior universe, and IT for example is beyond the concept of size living beyond of any universe, and gan sees both it and All universes equally insignificant
 
be described as a world independent of the lower one where there is an infinity of size separating them, if a higher level space-time that encompasses the lower one is even better, and in the slime there are worlds with different space-time, laws and causality, and transcendent worlds and one of those worlds is beyond past, present and future temporal directions which equates to 4d making the 5d world
could you do me the favor of talking again about the theory of the 5D world in Slime, why it's 5D, how dimensionality works and the volume that was quoted if it won't bother you too much, I want to show this to other people
 
could you do me the favor of talking again about the theory of the 5D world in Slime, why it's 5D, how dimensionality works and the volume that was quoted if it won't bother you too much, I want to show this to other people
in Tensura there are countless worlds, each with its space-time being its own reality, laws, different causality and as each one has avatars of the great spirits that shape the worlds, possibly some even have their own concepts but that's just theory, there are 3 types of worlds, the material, the semi-material and the spiritual, there are 3 5d factors in tension, the first there is a space between the spaces that connects them and logically is beyond them, the second that is what can take tension to very high levels is that there are worlds with different directions, and one of those worlds is beyond past, present and future temporal directions which is equivalent to 4th dimension, so since this world is not part of 4th dimension and is beyond it this world fits like 5d if the translations are correct, if the translation is correct and it is quoted/proved that there are worlds transcendent to this one, it is the citation that tension needs to be raised to very high levels, and 3 the spirit world which encompasses the material world within itself and rules over it, but it is not known if it is all material worlds or at least more than 1, these are the 3 5d factors in Tensura
 
in Tensura there are countless worlds, each with its space-time being its own reality, laws, different causality and as each one has avatars of the great spirits that shape the worlds, possibly some even have their own concepts but that's just theory, there are 3 types of worlds, the material, the semi-material and the spiritual, there are 3 5d factors in tension, the first there is a space between the spaces that connects them and logically is beyond them, the second that is what can take tension to very high levels is that there are worlds with different directions, and one of those worlds is beyond past, present and future temporal directions which is equivalent to 4th dimension, so since this world is not part of 4th dimension and is beyond it this world fits like 5d if the translations are correct, if the translation is correct and it is quoted/proved that there are worlds transcendent to this one, it is the citation that tension needs to be raised to very high levels, and 3 the spirit world which encompasses the material world within itself and rules over it, but it is not known if it is all material worlds or at least more than 1, these are the 3 5d factors in Tensura
cited volumes 15,16,17
 
if it is related to the worlds described, it is a lie, in the translations there are only transcendent worlds, if it is about the forms of spiritual life, it is a described means to say that the level of power has increased a lot, it is normal for authors to cite this but there is no tier , if I'm not mistaken, it's in Yuuki's fight against Guy


Its in Volume 8, chapter 4 when Rimuru is explaining about elves, this scan talks about fairies and again says higher existence.
 
in Tensura there are countless worlds, each with its space-time being its own reality, laws, different causality and as each one has avatars of the great spirits that shape the worlds, possibly some even have their own concepts but that's just theory, there are 3 types of worlds, the material, the semi-material and the spiritual, there are 3 5d factors in tension, the first there is a space between the spaces that connects them and logically is beyond them, the second that is what can take tension to very high levels is that there are worlds with different directions, and one of those worlds is beyond past, present and future temporal directions which is equivalent to 4th dimension, so since this world is not part of 4th dimension and is beyond it this world fits like 5d if the translations are correct, if the translation is correct and it is quoted/proved that there are worlds transcendent to this one, it is the citation that tension needs to be raised to very high levels, and 3 the spirit world which encompasses the material world within itself and rules over it, but it is not known if it is all material worlds or at least more than 1, these are the 3 5d factors in Tensura
thank you so much
 


Its in Volume 8, chapter 4 when Rimuru is explaining about elves, this scan talks about fairies and again says higher existence.

has been quoted several times, it is how they describe spiritual beings, the spiritual world is possibly of a higher level, but it is not known if the same applies to spiritual beings of the cardinal world, probably yes but it needs more proof, and in the cited context it is used to describe the discrepancy in level between spiritual and material beings, just as there is a discrepancy between digital and spiritual beings
 
There are spiritual worlds that encompass the material world and rule over it, but it is not known if they are all worlds, so it is not possible to know if it is a superior existence or not.
 
in Tensura there are countless worlds, each with its space-time being its own reality, laws, different causality and as each one has avatars of the great spirits that shape the worlds, possibly some even have their own concepts but that's just theory, there are 3 types of worlds, the material, the semi-material and the spiritual, there are 3 5d factors in tension, the first there is a space between the spaces that connects them and logically is beyond them, the second that is what can take tension to very high levels is that there are worlds with different directions, and one of those worlds is beyond past, present and future temporal directions which is equivalent to 4th dimension, so since this world is not part of 4th dimension and is beyond it this world fits like 5d if the translations are correct, if the translation is correct and it is quoted/proved that there are worlds transcendent to this one, it is the citation that tension needs to be raised to very high levels, and 3 the spirit world which encompasses the material world within itself and rules over it, but it is not known if it is all material worlds or at least more than 1, these are the 3 5d factors in Tensura
if the translation is correct and with the information we already have, could a CTR be made to level up Slime? or does the Wiki need more proof for this?

I don't say higher levels as a possible 1-B or 1-A that can be achieved with proof of higher worlds, but Low 1-C with the citation of that 5D world
 
if the translation is correct and with the information we already have, could a CTR be made to level up Slime? or does the Wiki need more proof for this?

I don't say higher levels as a possible 1-B or 1-A that can be achieved with proof of higher worlds, but Low 1-C with the citation of that 5D world
yes it can be accepted but only Veldanava would have this tierz to be 1B or higher it needs to be declared that there are worlds above this 5d world
 
may not be accepted definitively, but a "possibly low1c" is very likely
Got it, fine for me it would be perfect if Slime, but specifically Rimuru ended up being high 1-B, but something like low 1-C would be nice too,

I'm excited for the next volume, I hope Fuse talks or at least some clue about the cosmology and digital beings in slime, so far they are the ones most likely to have things like, Acas, Transduality, NEP, and the long-awaited immeasurable speed
 
Nah this doesn't qualify too
With enough proof these does Qualify .Just Being stated that someone is in a higher realm or from higher dimension doesn't .However ,

3.Anti spiral is 11D because he is a being from the 10th+1 temporal dimension .
So someone from a 5-D universe is normally 5-D if he can interact with other 5-D beings although lower dimensional beings may exist there.
For example in our universe there are 2-D beings too .But Normally by inhabitants of the universe we mean 3-D beings .

2.The Existing in higher plane that I talked about means something that's superior to spacetime continuum and completely trivializes and the existence of it doesn't matter to that realm it the same case as viewing 4-D as fiction .
 
3.Anti spiral is 11D because he is a being from the 10th+1 temporal dimension .
He is 11D because he is his own universe, its described perfectly in this blog

The Existing in higher plane that I talked about means something that's superior to spacetime continuum and completely trivializes and the existence of it doesn't matter to that realm it the same case as viewing 4-D as fiction .
You don't share the same properties as the place you live in by default
 
He is 11D because he is his own universe, its described perfectly in this blog


You don't share the same properties as the place you live in by default
I did say If he can interact with other 5-D beings and that lower dimensional beings might also exist there .

Isn't Kamina ,Yoko ,Simon 11-D too because they're comparable to anti spiral and from 11-D verse
 
I did say If he can interact with other 5-D beings and that lower dimensional beings might also exist there .
Depends on how he "interact", if by some hax means then that's simply a smurf hax.

Isn't Kamina ,Yoko ,Simon 11-D too because they're comparable to anti spiral and from 11-D verse
Don't know, didnt watch the series. Coming from [insert number] dimension verse doesnt give you any rating.
 
Depends on how he "interact", if by some hax means then that's simply a smurf hax.


Don't know, didnt watch the series. Coming from [insert number] dimension verse doesnt give you any rating.
Forgot the name of the thread ,But a member there said that you can become 5-D if you're from 5-D world (If you're comparable to other 5-D beings of that world that is ) and a staff also supported his claim .
 
Re cheeked Yoko's profile seems like she's high1-C Only with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann .She herself physically is still only 3-D .That proves your claim to be true .

Yes ofcourse u dont share the same property as the place you live by default But I was talking about a case scenario where A 5-D world is full of mainly 5-D beings (Of course there will be lower dimensional beings as well) .
If a character is from that world and is stated to be comparable to other (Not with hax but physically ) 5-D beings wouldn't he be 5-D ?

it was my fault for not being clear
 
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Isn't Kamina ,Yoko ,Simon 11-D too because they're comparable to anti spiral and from 11-D verse
Kamina, no
he died way before the final battle
, but Yoko is comparable to Simon, and Antispiral is comparable to Simon rather than the other way around
Re cheeked Yoko's profile seems like she's high1-C Only with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann .She herself physically is still only 3-D .That proves your claim to be true .
Everyone after the Multiverse Labyrinth were given the same power as Simon, along with his integration of the multiverse, so they're all physically 11-D as well
 
If a character is from that world and is stated to be comparable to other (Not with hax but physically ) 5-D beings wouldn't he be 5-D ?
No, because other 5-D beings could be only 5-D in nature, and not power. Dimensions aren't measures of power, they're just axes of movement
 
are there different types of information in Tensura? Because at times it is said that information is matter, but non-physical things like mind, soul and skills are composed of information too, it is possible?
 
when exactly, are you refering to that statement from volume 11? its a mistranslation
no, it was a statement from volume 13 when Rimuru is explaining about the soul and heart inside the core
Whether it belongs to a human being or a monster, all souls have a set quality and quantity. It is composed of matter known as data particles, and through managing and applying certain forces to them, it’s possible to control life and death to some extent.-volume 13, epilogue
As far as I know, data particles and information particles are synonymous in verse, right?
 
are there different types of information in Tensura? Because at times it is said that information is matter, but non-physical things like mind, soul and skills are composed of information too, it is possible?
I thought about it too, I think it has to do with the nature of information particles, I think they must shape themselves to form different things in the universe, from physical things to non-physical things, they shape themselves to create an ability or a spiritual being and not giving them the same properties of a digital being that would be the speed and manipulation of information, for me it is proof that not all information is the same despite everything being information
 
I thought about it too, I think it has to do with the nature of information particles, I think they must shape themselves to form different things in the universe, from physical things to non-physical things, they shape themselves to create an ability or a spiritual being and not giving them the same properties of a digital being that would be the speed and manipulation of information, for me it is proof that not all information is the same despite everything being information
yes, I thought something similar, but I decided to ask here because I wanted to know if this would interfere with handling type 2 information in verse, but Rimuru says that everything in the verse contains information, so it wouldn't be illogical for this to include non-physical things as well, but I don't know if thinking like that is enough to prove somethingbut I don't know if thinking like that is enough to prove something
 
yes, I thought something similar, but I decided to ask here because I wanted to know if this would interfere with handling type 2 information in verse, but Rimuru says that everything in the verse contains information, so it wouldn't be illogical for this to include non-physical things as well, but I don't know if thinking like that is enough to prove somethingbut I don't know if thinking like that is enough to prove something
I don't think it affects anything, because even though it's different between physical and non-physical things, it's still information, it's probably not even about them changing to create something, but it would be something more like a different particle state between physical and non-physical things, because in the end, as Rimuru said, everything is made of information particles, I think it would be something similar to the atoms in real life that make up matter, and originate things like light that is considered energy because it has no mass
 
I don't think it affects anything, because even though it's different between physical and non-physical things, it's still information, it's probably not even about them changing to create something, but it would be something more like a different particle state between physical and non-physical things, because in the end, as Rimuru said, everything is made of information particles, I think it would be something similar to the atoms in real life that make up matter, and originate things like light that is considered energy because it has no mass
I feared that with this the manipulation of information could become just a manipulation of matter

But if it's okay even with that information, then I won't think too much about it
 
I'm wondering about Transduality type 1, if Rimuru gets it, will Rimuru still be affected by 4D attack? Because his identity is only 3D.(Transduality is a little hard to understand)
 
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