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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Theres one thing you guys keep forgetting.

If a verse doesn't have info type 2, there's no way they can interact with information beings.

Also, the fact you can negate immortality and regen of magic doesn't mean you can negate immortality of type 2 information

Something I've noted, after looking at the Anos vs Slime thread.

You guys aren't leveraging information type 2 it seems
 
Sniper670 said:
Theres one thing you guys keep forgetting.

If a verse doesn't have info type 2, there's no way they can interact with information beings.

Also, the fact you can negate immortality and regen of magic doesn't mean you can negate immortality of type 2 information

Something I've noted, after looking at the Anos vs Slime thread.

You guys aren't leveraging information type 2 it seems
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In the last battle involving Anos, I don't think there was type 2 information in the profile yet, but that doesn't change anything, Anos have TD 3 and NEP 2, causality 4 above the baseline, among other things that Rimuru can't handle
 
It doesn't mean Anos can interact with info type 2 beings.

There's no info type 2 in the verse. Best he can hope for is incon
 
Sniper670 said:
It doesn't mean Anos can interact with info type 2 beings.

There's no info type 2 in the verse. Best he can hope for is incon
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Well, Venuzdonoa destroys everything ignoring logic and reason, so I believe this shouldn't do much good, he would simply destroy Rimuru passively
 
But bringing this topic here is pointless so if you want to see it for yourself, create a vs thread yourself, and I must remind you that the WN version is not composed of type 2 information
 
Tempestdragon6 said:
He is talking about maou gaukin not tensura
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Yes, I'm also talking about maou gakuin, explaining it better spirits are beings that embody information (rumors and lore) and their existence is reliant on it. The information is also what forms their source (concept), thats what i was told but they are still working for the CRT cant say if this will be accepted or not
 
Peak said:
Yes, I'm also talking about maou gakuin, explaining it better spirits are beings that embody information (rumors and lore) and their existence is reliant on it. The information is also what forms their source (concept), thats what i was told but they are still working for the CRT cant say if this will be accepted or not
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Ah my bad
 
I find it very interesting how the back doesn't even get 2B right, but with a single explanation that there are worlds above 5d, the back can get High1A easy, I find this fact very interesting how Slime just needs a detailed explanation to be elevated to an absurd level
 
LoganKroos said:
I find it very interesting how the back doesn't even get 2B right, but with a single explanation that there are worlds above 5d, the back can get High1A easy, I find this fact very interesting how Slime just needs a detailed explanation to be elevated to an absurd level
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That's the good and bad of the fuse, although he doesn't want to give details of complex dimensions and absurd power levels, he does let you understand that they exist in a certain way, it depends on how you interpret
 
wwereymy235 said:
I think it would be better to talk here rather than the maou discussion thread, but about dream world. You said it was scarce but could it grant r>f?
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it's very difficult, but it can, there was only a statement from a character who after dying said that he saw everything he lived as a dream, the name of the place/world or whatever it is is promised land
 
LoganKroos said:
I find it very interesting how the back doesn't even get 2B right, but with a single explanation that there are worlds above 5d, the back can get High1A easy, I find this fact very interesting how Slime just needs a detailed explanation to be elevated to an absurd level
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Although for now this would only affect Veldanava as no one but him so far can affect the entirety of worlds
 
for example, he could have said that the world beyond time was superior in terms of dimensions than the other worlds, or that it was about having more dimensional axes, I think that would be enough to confirm 5D, but instead he I wanted to sound more fanciful to choose the term "world beyond time" to refer to him. This is a feature of the fuse and I still think he will use it to describe other types of higher dimensions, like saying that one dimension is infinitely above the others, or that from the point of view of that dimension everything seems mere fiction.

LoganKroos said:
I find it very interesting how the back doesn't even get 2B right, but with a single explanation that there are worlds above 5d, the back can get High1A easy, I find this fact very interesting how Slime just needs a detailed explanation to be elevated to an absurd level
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And honestly in Vol 17 he could have at least made Velgrynd say that there are infinite worlds and not many worlds, and that's where interpretation comes in because by that he might be meaning that Velgrynd's perception doesn't allow her to observe infinite worlds. , either there are no infinite worlds or that even if there are no infinite worlds there are higher worlds, which is more likely since Velgrynd made it clear that there is a hierarchy of worlds in the Slime Universe
 
JV_DLS said:
That's the good and bad of the fuse, although he doesn't want to give details of complex dimensions and absurd power levels, he does let you understand that they exist in a certain way, it depends on how you interpret
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Yes, I agree, the case of the promised land and the Granbell quote I interpreted as a metaphor and not as an upper world, I only found out about this kind of thinking referring to tier 1 in this thread
 
JV_DLS said:
for example, he could have said that the world beyond time was superior in terms of dimensions than the other worlds, or that it was about having more dimensional axes, I think that would be enough to confirm 5D, but instead he I wanted to sound more fanciful to choose the term "world beyond time" to refer to him. This is a feature of the fuse and I still think he will use it to describe other types of higher dimensions, like saying that one dimension is infinitely above the others, or that from the point of view of that dimension everything seems mere fiction.



And honestly in Vol 17 he could have at least made Velgrynd say that there are infinite worlds and not many worlds, and that's where interpretation comes in because by that he might be meaning that Velgrynd's perception doesn't allow her to observe infinite worlds. , either there are no infinite worlds or that even if there are no infinite worlds there are higher worlds, which is more likely since Velgrynd made it clear that there is a hierarchy of worlds in the Slime Universe
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Well, in this case I just believe that Fuse doesn't want to raise Tensura too much, it's not his mistake, this way he describes the worlds is an interesting way to narrate, for those who don't bother to put cosmology in tier 1, I think they would be satisfied, and I believe that's how Fuse thinks
 
Peak said:
Well, in this case I just believe that Fuse doesn't want to raise Tensura too much, it's not his mistake, this way he describes the worlds is an interesting way to narrate, for those who don't bother to put cosmology in tier 1, I think they would be satisfied, and I believe that's how Fuse thinks
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I don't think it's even a matter of not wanting to level up, it's just that he doesn't want to use the medium of giving details about dimensional axes, infinite hierarchies and things like that that elevate a Universe to level 1, I think he wants to make his own way or putting it in a more fanciful way of writing or leaving it up to us to interpret it the way we think is best.
 
The illustration shows the tension in this battle. Oh, and not only that, there was also a surprise like Feldway's figure coming out. Milim's expression showed a very angry expression. I really liked Feldway's figure, it was very noble, elegant, and very cool.
 
V2001 said:
The illustration shows the tension in this battle. Oh, and not only that, there was also a surprise like Feldway's figure coming out. Milim's expression showed a very angry expression. I really liked Feldway's figure, it was very noble, elegant, and very cool.
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I was going to send it here now, this looks amazing
 
I didn't expect to see this so soon, and Miltz seems to have given his all in these illustrations, I'm excited
 
V2001 said:
The illustration shows the tension in this battle. Oh, and not only that, there was also a surprise like Feldway's figure coming out. Milim's expression showed a very angry expression. I really liked Feldway's figure, it was very noble, elegant, and very cool.
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it seems that Milim became an adult in this form of hers, who do you think died for her to look like this?! if someone is going to die I bet on Karion, and as always white hair, cool character, classic but that never loses its fun lol
 
LoganKroos said:
it seems that Milim became an adult in this form of hers, who do you think died for her to look like this?! if someone is going to die I bet on Karion, and as always white hair, cool character, classic but that never loses its fun lol
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Bro I thought Feldway's appearance was insane, an angel having that look is pretty badass, and Milim doesn't seem to have a tail there?
 
LoganKroos said:
it seems that Milim became an adult in this form of hers, who do you think died for her to look like this?! if someone is going to die I bet on Karion, and as always white hair, cool character, classic but that never loses its fun lol
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Could it be that he lost Frey?
 
LoganKroos said:
she's half human and half dragon, I think it's a consequence of her losing control
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So theoretically she has 3 or 4 battle ways, 1st and standard, 2nd is with armor she used against Karion, 3rd with Satanael and half dragon form, and maybe 4th forms if she can use half dragon form without Satanael
 
V2001 said:
Hahaha I'm a little excited. Seeing this illustration So hurry up and send it here lol I can't wait to read it already.
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Yeah I had just seen it and I was coming over here to send it hahaha this look is the best so far right? I don't remember one more beautiful and impactful than this one
 
Peak said:
Yeah I had just seen it and I was coming over here to send it hahaha this look is the best so far right? I don't remember one more beautiful and impactful than this one
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Maybe yes, I don't remember either. but this picture looks very nice, i like it
 
Ch1 - Feldway
Ch2 - First Decisive Battle
Ch3 - Report and Countermeasures
Ch4 - Quaking Titans (Shingeki no Kyojin, really Fuse?)
Ch5 - Defense of the Holy Tree
Final - Rimuru Disappears



(Oh wow what is that sacred tree? Was it an ordinary sacred tree, or was it a high-ranking tree with certain powers?
interesting lol)
 
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V2001 said:
Ch1 - Feldway
Ch2 - First Decisive Battle
Ch3 - Report and Countermeasures
Ch4 - Quaking Titans (Shingeki no Kyojin, really Fuse?)
Ch5 - Defense of the Holy Tree
Final - Rimuru Disappears

Ch 1
Feldway uses Mai's skill to teleport back to the Star Palace, then goes on a rant about Rudra. That's when he hears Michael's final words as he returns to Ultimate Skill Michael and the Manas Michael disappears. Having lost his first and only friend, he starts panicking. But Vega points out that he has practically absorbed the entirety of Michael's power, which is the same thing Feldway allowed Vega to do with Arios. After resolving himself, Feldway takes out his original body, which is said to be a mirror image of Veldanava's.

Ch 2
Esprit/Phobio vs Peliod - Peliod reflected of all Esprit's magic, and dodged her sword using afterimages. Realizing there was nothing she could do, she formed a demon contract with Phobio to buff him up instead. They manage to hold out until Gobta/Ranga arrive as reinforcements
Frey vs Torn - Torn constantly mocks Frey throughout the fight as being slow, but she had been fully analyzing him while tricking him to cause damage to his own army. Though he moved way too fast to be seen, Frey predicted his position and pierced his core with her claws.
Gabiru + Suphia vs Beathop - Beathop overpowered the two with pure physical strength, but they managed to hold on while chugging potions. Suphia gets her heart crushed, but Gabiru saves her life by applying his once per day Fate Alteration.``



(Oh wow what is that sacred tree? Was it an ordinary sacred tree, or was it a high-ranking tree with certain powers?
interesting lol)
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This an insane spoiler
 
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